Cloud Cuckoo Land is a phrase that dates back to Aristophanes’ play, “The Birds”. Various literary references to it have followed, and nowadays, as Wikipedia tells us with an explanation which is perfect for present purposes:
Cloud cuckoo land is a state of absurdly, over-optimistic fantasy or an unrealistically idealistic state of mind where everything appears to be perfect. Someone who is said to “live in cloud cuckoo land” is a person who thinks that things that are completely impossible might happen, rather than understanding how things really are. It also hints that the person referred to is naive, unaware of realities or deranged in holding such an optimistic belief.
Which brings us to the news this morning of the Labour Party’s latest “green” policy initiative, reported on the BBC website as “Labour conference: Sir Keir Starmer backs net zero electricity to boost growth” and on the Observer website (which claims details of the plan were announced exclusively to it) as “Keir Starmer unveils green growth plan to counter Liz Truss’s tax cuts: Labour pledges a revolution in green energy to ‘boost jobs and slash emissions’”.
It would have been nice to go straight to the horse’s mouth, so to speak, and find the detail behind this announcement at, oh I don’t know, how about the Labour Party website? Unfortunately, when I found my way to the Policy Development Section I was met with the following message:
The Labour Policy Forum website is currently undergoing essential maintenance and will have limited functionality for a while. You will still be able to read NPF documents and others’ submissions, and see updates in our news feed. However, unfortunately while the maintenance is underway it will not be possible to log in, make submissions or comment on others’ submissions. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and will aim to have full functionality restored as soon as we can.
Those last few words (“We apologise for any inconvenience caused and will aim to have full functionality restored as soon as we can“) are a rather nice description of how Labour’s plans will leave the UK’s national energy system by the time they’re finished with it.
Unable to read the detail of this bold new vote-losing policy-initiative on the Labour Party website, I’m left cobbling it together from the BBC and Observer reports.
The first and most obvious point is that Labour claims that these new policy initiatives will be in place by 2030. Given that the last general election took place on 12th December 2019, then there is the distinct possibility that the next one will occur only in December 2024. If so, that would leave a Labour Government with just the five years that it might expect to enjoy in Government (once the British electorate enjoys the fruits of its policy – blackouts and expensive energy among them) in which to implement these policies by the beginning of 2030. And I mean by the beginning of 2030, since this is how the Observer reports it:
Keir Starmer will pledge to deliver a new era of economic growth and permanently lower energy bills by turning the UK into an independent green “superpower” before 2030, through a massive expansion of wind and solar energy. [My emphasis].
This is to be done by:
Doubling the amount of onshore wind;
Tripling solar power; and
Quadrupling offshore wind power.
The BBC also tells us that Labour will push for more “nuclear, hydrogen, and tidal power”.
Apparently all this will “re-industrialise” “the country to create a zero carbon, self-sufficient electricity system, by the end of this decade.”
There we go again – by the end of this decade. Five years from the next general election. Doubling the amount of onshore wind will certainly industrialise what is left of our wild places. Only this morning the Sunday Post reported that Nature Scot is ceasing to object to new wind turbine applications in some areas because they can no longer be described as “wild” due to the proliferation of wind farms that are already in existence.
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According to Sir Keir, the plan is “far more ambitious than any green policy advanced by the Tories and the most far-reaching of his leadership so far”. And it would:
release the British people from the mercy of “dictators” such as Russian president Vladimir Putin over energy bills.
It would also, he says, cut hundreds of pounds off annual household energy bills “for good”, create up to half a million UK jobs, and make this country the first to have a zero-emission power system.
Well, if you’re an inhabitant of Cloud Cuckoo Land I dare say that it all sounds rather marvellous. There’s just one problem:
Cloud cuckoo land is a state of absurdly, over-optimistic fantasy or an unrealistically idealistic state of mind…
The Observer goes on to tell us, as an illustration of this very point, that:
The idea at its core is to build a self-sufficient power system run entirely by cheap, homegrown renewables and nuclear, by the end of the decade. This, they argue, would also allow the country to become a major energy exporter.
Of course, even if several new nuclear power stations were commissioned on day one of a new Labour Government, they won’t be up and running “before the end of the decade”. And, if the National Grid is to operate without the input of fossil fuels, then we will need nuclear power to provide the despatchable power back-up necessary to ride to the rescue when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining. We aren’t told what we will do in the dead of winter when the sun barely appears over the horizon (in which case tripling solar power is an exercise in futility) and an anticyclone is settled over western Europe and the UK. The only obvious answer (not that it’s even mentioned) would be giga-battery storage systems. There’s just one problem – the technology doesn’t exist at the necessary scale yet, and there is absolutely no guarantee that it will exist at a reasonable price or at all, and be capable of being installed, by 2030. Even then, batteries saving us from blackouts assume that all this new renewable energy will actually provide us with sufficient surplus energy when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing to be stored and kept in reserve for those times when neither of those things are happening.
Cloud cuckoo land is a state of absurdly, over-optimistic fantasy or an unrealistically idealistic state of mind…
There are so many problems with this fantasy, that it’s difficult to know where to begin. Suffice it to say that quadrupling offshore wind is an absurdly optimistic plan, albeit one that is almost shared by the other occupants of Cloud Cuckoo Land who are currently in power:
Offshore wind is a success story for the UK. Long term government support has underpinned innovation and investment in the sector, helping to drive down costs while contributing to decarbonisation of the economy. We now have the largest installed offshore wind capacity in the world, with 9.8 gigawatts (GW) installed which will rise to 19.5 GW by mid 2020s.
And:
A pathway to up to 30GW by 2030 provides a level of certainty unmatched by any other European government and means the UK will remain the anchor market for offshore wind.
Given that Sir Keir has (not unreasonably, in my view) criticised the recent “mini-budget” for its own Cloud Cuckoo Land aspects (not that he used those words) it’s interesting that the Shadow Chancellor, Rachel Reeves had already (before this latest policy announcement) committed to “spend an extra £28bn a year on making the UK economy more “green” if it wins power”. That’s £140 billion, before we even begin to look at the costs of the latest fantasy.
The fantasy continues:
“Our plan for clean power by 2030 will save the British people £93bn off their energy bills and break the UK’s vulnerability to Putin and his cronies,” said Sir Keir.
“It will also support our drive for higher growth and rising living standards.”
I would love to believe him, but I don’t. Assumptions about saving money for energy consumers must be based on the assumption that gas prices will never come down again, that coal isn’t cheap, and that renewables energy providers will rush in droves to sign up to real and meaningful CfD contracts (or some variant thereof), as opposed to the one-way options that they currently are, at prices around the recent round at £48 per MwH. Of course, they won’t, and if they do, they will presumably simply not trigger them, choosing (as they do now) to supply at market prices instead. Either Sir Keir doesn’t understand how CfDs work (and as a top lawyer, I would hope that he does) or he intends to ensure that in future they are drafted in a watertight manner, so that once signed up to them, renewable energy companies have no choice other than to deliver at agreed low prices.
Cloud cuckoo land is a state of absurdly, over-optimistic fantasy or an unrealistically idealistic state of mind…
The problem is that all this simply represents a game of top trumps. The sad reality is that all parties who hope to be in power, or perhaps to hold the balance of power, after the next general election, are committed to this nonsense to a greater or lesser degree.
Finally (from the Observer report):
Commenting on Labour’s energy plan, Greenpeace UK’s head of politics Rebecca Newsom said: “The only way out of this mess is a moonshot mission to roll out a renewables based energy system that can lower bills, cut emissions, create jobs and break our dependence on gas markets and fossil fuel autocrats.
“Labour seems to have understood that, the Conservatives don’t.”
As I said:
Cloud cuckoo land is a state of absurdly, over-optimistic fantasy or an unrealistically idealistic state of mind…
This is what happened in 2021 it will happen again and again
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2021-european-wind-drought-analysed/
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I recommend reading Ed’s piece about the 2021 wind drought. Politicians would do well to read it too.
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Partial transcript of Laura Kuenssberg’s interview with Keir Starmer this morning:
KUENSSBERG: Now, if renewables aren’t reliable enough to provide 100% of electricity – I mean nobody [?would think that at this stage of the game?] – what do you fall back on, how do you keep the lights on?
STARMER: Well you would always have a transition with oil and gas, of course you would, but we’ve got to have the ambition to get off fossil fuels when it comes to our power. This is a plan that can be delivered, it’s a plan that will drive down our prices, and it’s a plan that if the government had set off on this road, you know, 5 or 6 years ago, we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in.
KUENSSBERG: But in terms of what you’re saying though, are you absolutely adamant that there will be no reliance on fossil fuels by 2030 or is it still there as a fall back? …
STARMER: It might be there as a fall back. The plan is 2030, for all of our power, clean power. We think you can double onshore wind power, triple solar, and quadruple offshore wind power. It can be done. We need a government that is prepared to partner with business on an ambition that can be turned into a result in 2030.
From about 13.00 if you are able to watch.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001ck10/sunday-with-laura-kuenssberg-25092022
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Not sure I can bear to watch it, but thanks for the transcript. It seems that there are caveats already, none of which are mentioned in the online BBC and Observer reports.
Plainly there must be caveats, for the stated ambition is unachievable, certainly within the suggested timescale, and probably ever.
So what does that make Sir Keir? Does he believe that the policy can be achieved, whilst being a bit nervous about it? Or does he know full well that it’s Cloud Cuckoo Land stuff, but he thinks he has to say it to keep the pro- net zero media on board? If the latter, will he find convenient reasons to be blown off course once the reality and responsibilities of power take hold?
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And here’s the BBC back in 1958 with the reverse of Cloud Cuckoo Land optimism,
an interview with Aldous Huxley. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-future-is-now?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play
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Mark, I don’t think Starmer is going to win the election. His new policy will appeal to those in the party’s social media bubble, and the wider media and the clueless commentariat. If you did watch Laura Kuenssberg’s show back, you will have heard Frances O’Grady saying the most absurd things about energy.
Unfortunately it looks as if the new Tory leadership has refused to grasp the nettle, and are trying to keep their green back benches on board with more absurd policies.
It’s looking like it will require something very serious to occur before we adopt a rational approach to energy in the UK. Even then, I begin to worry that the spin machine is so powerful that a collapse in the grid caused by renewables will be diagnosed as an over-reliance on “volatile” fossil fuels.
I’m going to put my tinfoil hat on and look into the cost of camping stoves. 😒
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Jit,
I can’t see the Tories winning the next election, since they seem determined to trash everything now. How can any Chancellor of the Exchequer expect to be taken seriously when berating the Governor of the BoE for not doing enough to control inflation, when he then goes and embarks on a fiscally reckless inflationary policy?
On the other hand, I think Labour may form the largest party after the next election, and I fear we’ll be saddled with a net zero coalition of chaos, with Starmer as PM, and Labour in coalition with maybe Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru (and the Greens if they ever return more than one MP).
That said, listening this morning to the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 as I drove to Swaledale to climb Great Shunner Fell, I marvelled at the way in which Rachel Reeves, Labour’s Shadow Chancellor, repeatedly sidestepped, without answering, extremely basic and simple questions from the interviewer. I think the electorate will be faced with the most appalling dilemma next time round, namely which clueless incompetent shower to vote for. I’m at the spoiling my ballot stage, unless something improves dramatically regarding one of the parties between now and the next election.
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It seems that there are plenty of inhabitants of Cloud Cuckoo Land:
“Labour’s low-carbon plans look like sensible economic policy
Fiona Harvey
Environment correspondent
Keir Starmer’s proposals closely match advice given by energy economists and won praise from unions and business”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/27/labours-low-carbon-plans-look-like-sensible-economic-policy
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“Will Labour’s energy plans work?
Simon Evans
While there are questions about the pace of Labour’s proposals, criticism in rightwing newspapers is bizarrely wide of the mark”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/28/will-labours-energy-plans-work
Up and running in the headline – stigmatise the critics (aka realists) in the eyes of Guardian readers, by labelling them right-wing.
There’s your first error. Labour’s half-baked plans are for zero-carbon electric by 2030, not for zero-carbon power. You are out by a factor of somewhere between 5 and 6.
As opposed to renewables, which are really, really efficient?
Read on for more Cloud Cuckoo Land thinking. There is at least a modest caveat:
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“Labour is living in eco-dreamland
Recycling failed policies will do nothing to solve the energy crisis.”
(Or, as I prefer to call it, Cloud Cuckoo Land):
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/09/28/labour-is-living-in-eco-dreamland/
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The Guardian claims this an an exclusive, but I don’t think it is – I seem to remember reading (and posting here) about this several months ago:
“Government tests energy blackout emergency plans as supply fears grow
Exclusive: Whitehall officials have ‘war gamed’ Programme Yarrow, a blueprint for coping with outages for up to a week”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/government-tests-energy-blackout-emergency-plans-as-supply-fears-grow
Meanwhile, Ed carries on with his back-to-front thinking, ignoring the reality:
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“MPs criticise Whitehall free-for-all on reporting emissions
Committee says vague guidance and lack of follow-up make it hard for public to hold government to account”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/02/mps-criticise-whitehall-free-for-all-on-reporting-emissions
The Cloud Cuckoo Land statement in there is this:
First of all, climate change is not going to create a world that can’t be lived in. Secondly, nothing we in the UK do will make any difference.
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The manner of the latest deferral of the Cumbrian coal mine decision seems to be even worse than I thought:
“UK climate czar warns Sunak against opening new coal mine
It’s time for Britain to live up to its climate promises, Alok Sharma tells POLITICO.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/alok-sharma-rishi-sunak-un-cop27-uk-climate-czar-warns-sunak-against-opening-new-coal-mine/
So Friends of the Earth are the first to hear about it?
The 6,000 so-called green jobs never seem to materialise. But even if the claim is true, it’s not true that you can’t have one set of jobs (associated with the coal mine) if you have the other (“green” jobs), and vice versa. Whatever happened to logic in politics?
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“Labour vows to lift ban on onshore wind”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63579588
How many untruths and euphemisms can be sneaked into a single article?
There is no ban on onshore windfarms in the UK; rather the English planning system is much more robust and fair than the system in Scotland (which is why Scotland Against Spin has petitioned the Scottish government seeking to make the Scottish planning system more like the English one).
Secondly, wind turbines are neither so cheap as claimed, nor so beneficial as claimed to the UK economy, given their unreliable and intermittent energy production, disrupting the National Grid and requiring reliable fossil fuel back-up.
Thirdly, persuading communities to get on board and adapting to a new landscape can reasonably be translated as “we’re going to trash your locality for what we arrogantly claim to be the greater good of the nation, so suck it up NIMBYs”.
Why do UK politicians hate the British people (and its precious landscapes) so much?
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“Labour would create ‘anti-Opec’ alliance for renewable energy, says Miliband
Shadow climate change secretary says group would cooperate to cut energy prices and promote clean technology”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/14/labour-would-create-anti-opec-alliance-for-renewable-energy-says-miliband
Deluded. Utterly deluded.
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Speaking of delusions:
“Increasing demand for oil and fuel threatens African nations’ economies, analysis finds
Carbon Tracker thinktank says investors in fossil fuels on the continent would be left with stranded assets”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/14/demand-for-oil-threatens-african–economies
Yeah, right. Funnily enough, the leaders of African countries don’t agree.
If you want to read it, to see the delusions laid bare, the summary of the report can be found here:
https://carbontracker.org/reports/african-sun-why-solar-not-gas/
Unfortunately you have to log in to download the full report.
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As should be apparent by alert visitors to this site, I am no Tory, and am no fan of this government (in any of its incarnations). However, on energy policy, bad though the Government is, the fear I have is that a Labour government would be even worse. Today, Rachel Reeves’ response to the autumn statement (even allowing for the fact that some parts of her response may have to be made on the hoof and be unscripted) demonstrates a worrying lack of understanding on the part of senior team members within the Government-in-waiting:
https://labour.org.uk/press/rachel-reeves-response-to-the-chancellors-autumn-statement/
The Tories didn’t close down gas storage (though they could be criticised for permitting it. However, permitting something is not the same as causing or doing it):
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rough-gas-storage-facility-undertakings-to-be-removed
So two QUANGOs/regulators facilitated the closure. The government didn’t close it (albeit a Government less fixated on net zero and more alert to the need for reliable energy supplies and energy security might have intervened to keep it open; such a government doesn’t sound like a Labour government either, given its current energy plans).
Next – the government hasn’t blocked onshore wind and solar. It reduced subsidies, which makes such investments less attractive to foreign energy companies; and it maintains a reasonably level playing field in terms of planning laws, unlike north of the border, where the Scottish government regularly gives such developments the green light even in the face of significant local opposition. Reducing subsidies, and not allowing the planning system to be manipulated is not the same as “blocking” such developments. They simply ceased actively to facilitate them.
Finally, I wonder if Rachel Reeves is aware of the expert pronouncement on the PM Radio programme today to the effect that meaningful insulation of UK housing stock would cost £270 billion?
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“Onshore wind rules to be relaxed after Tory revolt”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63880999
I can’t say I have much confidence in the way in which local opinion is to be measured. North of the border it tends to be ignored when it comes to wind farms, and our Lords and Masters at Westminster seem to be determined to replicate the Scottish “system”.
When it comes to assessing local opinion regarding the proposed Cumbrian underground waste facility (aka the nuclear dump by Cumbrians) the body set up to canvas opinion doesn’t even respond to emails. And this second attempt to impose the “facility” on us comes after the first attempt was rejected by Cumbria County Council, the government having assured Cumbrians that if any of the three local authorities involved in the process rejected the plan, that would be the end of the matter. So, forgive me for not trusting one little bit those weasel words “subject to local approval”.
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“Siemens Power CEO Confirms the Iron Law of Power Density”
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2022/12/02/siemens_power_ceo_confirms_the_iron_law_of_power_density_867905.html
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From Net Zero Watch today:
“Rishi Sunak’s incoherent energy policy will poison Britain’s future”
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An interesting update from Ed Hoskins:
“Progress and costs of UK Weather-Dependent “Renewables”: 2002-2021”
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/progress-and-costs-of-uk-weather-dependent-renewables-2002-2021/
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British fracked gas bad, American fracked gas good:
“UK aims to double US gas imports under new deal”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63885968
Funny, that. Proponents of UK fracking for shale gas are regularly told that it’s a global market and extracting UK gas won’t make any difference to prices.
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear:
“Have no doubt: opening a coalmine in Cumbria is a climate crime against humanity
Caroline Lucas
Locals desperate for lower bills, jobs and economic revival have been seduced by this plan, but they – and we – will suffer”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/07/opening-coalmine-cumbria-climate-crime-against-humanity
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The Guardian keeps stating that the Cumbria mine will produce emissions: “The mine will also produce an estimated 400,000 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions a year, increasing the UK’s emissions by the equivalent of putting 200,000 cars on the road.”
In fact the emissions produced by the mine itself will be small especially as the workers will have EV charging points! Producing steel requires this type of metallurgical coal. You can’t use wind power to make steel. Rather the other way round as you need steel to make wind turbines.
I was amused by this though: “The government said the mine was possible within the UK’s climate legislation, which requires the UK to reach net zero emissions by 2050, as operations will shut down by 2049.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/07/uk-first-new-coalmine-for-30-years-gets-go-ahead-in-cumbria
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The silicon used in solar panels also needs metallurgical coal for its manufacture.
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Energy policy is going well if the UK is reduced to this:
“CBI urges UK government to decide which industries get energy support
Companies brace for bills to double but no sector knows yet which will qualify for help”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/08/cbi-business-energy-support-relief-
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Labour has abandoned all pretence of representing the working classes and the unemployed:
“Labour says it would stop Cumbria coalmine from opening
Ed Miliband vows party will seek to prevent ‘climate-destroying’ plan and if elected would deliver green jobs”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/08/labour-says-would-stop-cumbria-coalmine-opening-ed-miliband
As for those “green” jobs, local mayor Mike Starkie (when challenged on Radio 4 News at 10pm the other evening by an aggressive interviewer who insisted that “green” jobs made more sense than coal mining jobs) pointed out that west Cumbria has been promised “green” jobs since the coal mine was first talked about, but there’s no sign of them being delivered yet.
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Always worth a comparison with the Germans …
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Behind a paywall, unfortunately:
“Outgoing boss of oil and gas trade body warns against ‘environmental populism’ amid North Sea debate
The boss of the oil and gas industry body has warned against “environmental populism” as she prepares to leave the role after almost eight years at the helm.”
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/outgoing-boss-of-oil-and-gas-trade-body-warns-against-environmental-populism-amid-north-sea-debate-3950935
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“Another “cheap” windfarm turning out expensive”
https://www.netzerowatch.com/another-cheap-windfarm-turning-out-expensive/
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I’ve edited this post as the Twitter link didn’t seem to work. The comment on Twitter I wanted to highlight is this:
What is truly depressing is the extent to which propaganda by the likes of Carbon Brief (and the BBC, and its endless repetition by politicians who should no better) has resulted in people believing that CfDs are in place at less than £50 per Mwh. They are not. They are one-way options, and renewable energy companies have chosen not to exercise those options, because it would be economically crazy for them to do so. Nobody is supplying power at £50 per Mwh. The government is not coining it in under CfDs. Yet we still see comments on that twitter exchange like this:
It’s going to be very heard to reverse years of misleading propaganda. Where are the BBC Climate Disinformation specialists when we need them?
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Just my opinion, but this interview feels like top-grade cloud cuckoo land musing:
“Net zero possible in 2040s, says outgoing UK climate business expert
Countries that fear losing competitive edge could benefit from bolder climate policies, says Nigel Topping”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/09/net-zero-possible-in-2040s-says-outgoing-uk-climate-business-expert-nigel-topping
That, however, is just setting the scene. It gets really weird later in the interview:
That must be why they’re using ever more coal, then?
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Living in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
Melbourne, Viktoriastan,
Once part of a great southern land,
But now a zone of witches’ hats,
‘Don’t Enter’ signs and ‘Thou Shalt Nots’, ‘
Zone of high – rise – carton – living,
War on carbon, cars and travelling,
(Other than by globalist cliques,
Flying in private jets to Davos trysts. )
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“George Eustice proposes tax cuts on vegetable oil to heat homes”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64237839
I’ve a better idea – scrap the ban.
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“New planning rules to help hit Scottish emissions targets”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64234765
Please, make it stop. And please, please, please, stop conflating an imaginary climate crisis with a nature crisis which is being exacerbated by policies adopted to deal with the imaginary climate crisis.
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Meanwhile, here’s some analysis of that planning policy, by the ever-sensible and realistic Douglas Fraser:
“Energy transition – a complex challenge for Holyrood”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64234091
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“The Dangerous Fantasy of Scotland’s Net Zero Energy Transition”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/18/the-dangerous-fantasy-of-scotlands-net-zero-energy-transition/
Well worth a read, IMO.
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“Climate change: Invest in technology that removes CO2 – report”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64321623
The kicker is at the end, and you have to persevere, ploughing through the usual dose of propaganda, before you get to it:
By the way, in the unlikely event that CCS at scale could be achieved economically, then what would be the problem with carrying on using cheap and reliable fossil fuels? Admittedly there are issues with real pollutants (as opposed to misnamed pollutants such as CO2), but scrubbers and filters could go a long way to mitigating these problems (certainly that’s what India claims in its IDC promising to increase coal use, and campaigners don’t seem too upset with India), and that way we wouldn’t need to trash economies and wildlife with unreliable and expensive environmentally-damaging renewable energy. The fact that some campaigners want to stop use of fossil fuels even if CO2 emissions were countered by CCS demonstrates that it isn’t simply about global warming, but rather some of these people are just viscerally opposed, in a knee-jerk way, to fossil fuels without more. That, I think, is amply evidenced by the hysterical opposition to one small proposed coal mine in Cumbria.
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“This is an era of plentiful, cheap, renewable energy, but the fossil fuel dinosaurs can’t admit it
Zoe Williams
For a couple of days this month, wind power supplied over half the UK’s electricity. You wouldn’t know it from our bills – or our politicians”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/20/renewable-energy-wind-power-fossil-fuel-electricity
Let’s get this right – for 2 days in the middle of winter, wind power supplied more than half of the UK’s electricity needs, or maybe 7 or 8% of our energy needs. And we are supposed to electrify the economy (thus dispensing with fossil fuels for the other 92 or 93% of our energy needs) and rely on unreliable renewables to make up the shortfall. Zoe, as do so many commentators, confuses electricity and energy:
Not true!
Renewables are unreliable. I notice Zoe doesn’t mention the wind drought of 2021 or the period of 10 days or so in December when it was bitterly cold in the UK and wind turbines produced virtually no electricity at all.
In Zoe’s world:
She does admit this:
It’s a fundamental problem, not some little technical difficulty that can be overcome by “research and investment”, as she seems to think.
I’ve read a lot of rubbish in the Guardian over recent years, but for delusional thinking and putting political prejudice ahead of reality, this one comes close to taking the biscuit.
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“How you can help Britain meet its net zero climate goal
From eating less red meat to cutting flying hours, experts say reducing our carbon footprint by 6% can determine our future”
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/jan/20/britain-net-zero-climate-red-meat-carbon-footprint
You can find the Tickzero website here:
http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/news/new-resource-tick-zero-s-real-climate-solutions
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“UK poised to give £300m in rescue funding to British Steel”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64351964
Desperate stuff.
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We’re doomed:
“Labour’s Rachel Reeves aiming to be ‘Britain’s first green chancellor’”
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/jan/20/labours-rachel-reeves-aiming-to-be-britains-first-green-chancellor
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“Cold weather triggers money-off energy scheme”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64367504
Surely even the most dim-witted can see that an energy system that pays suppliers to switch off (via constraints payments) and pays customers to switch off, is a system that is broken and not fit-for-purpose.
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“Payments for using less electricity to be repeated on Tuesday”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64378224
And yet those in charge want us to carry on ever faster down the road that led to this sorry state of affairs.
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Meanwhile, despite the evidence offered by reality:
“No miracles needed’: Prof Mark Jacobson on how wind, sun and water can power the world
Damian Carrington Environment editor”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/23/no-miracles-needed-prof-mark-jacobson-on-how-wind-sun-and-water-can-power-the-world
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Mark
“Discounts for households to use less electricity at peak times will be offered again on Tuesday as part of a scheme to avoid blackouts.”
bet KFC & McDonalds etc will be firing up the ovens for more users.
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“Keir Starmer’s green war on workers
A Labour government would sacrifice jobs, growth and energy security to Net Zero.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/24/keir-starmers-green-war-on-workers/
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This really isn’t supposed to be how it works. Is it?
“National Grid plan: ‘We should earn £10 by turning everything off'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64384200
Read on. Does this give the real game away?
Is “benefit” now some sort of euphemism? In what sort of upside-down world do consumers “benefit” from there not being enough electricity when it’s most needed, with the result that we have to switch things off?
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“Electricity to be 100% renewable by 2035, say Welsh ministers”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-64400703
Articles like this are worth scrutinising carefully, since whatever the spin, the BBC does usually feel obliged to include the truth, even if often highly camouflaged. For instance this:
Two points are hidden in there, behind the positive language:
1. “Improved” planning procedures translates, I reckon, to speedier planning overriding opposition from local objectors (a bit like the call by the SSE Chief Executive in his puff piece which I critiqued here):
2. Anticipatory investment to make sure the grid is fit for purpose, translates as this is going to cause all sorts of problems for the grid, and we need to spend loads of money in advance to try to ensure that it won’t fall over under the pressure of unpredictable and unreliable renewables sending in electricity, spasmodically, from lots of remote locations.
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The system is broken:
“Wind farms paid to switch off as households cut back on energy use
Turbine operators receive £65,000 to stop powering homes on Tuesday amid concerns over Britain’s strained energy supply”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/25/wind-farms-paid-switch-households-cut-back-energy-use/
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Mark – words fail me – “what madness is this” quote springs to mind for some reason.
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It isn’t just Labour then…
“Sunak reshuffle: Shapps named energy secretary in department shake-up”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64552127
We have a new oxymoronic government department:
And, if it weren’t so serious, the deluded world of Westminster would be funny:
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GAS GAFFE Ed Miliband U-turns on his demand for Britain to ditch fossil fuels – admitting we’ll need them for years – https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21258192/ed-miliband-u-turns-on-fossil-fuels/
sorry about the source, 1st I found – partial quote
“But he admitted under a Labour government they would carry on using the energy in the North Sea for “a long time to come”.
Critics say banning new licences would only mean having to import more oil and gas from abroad instead.
Former Labour boss, Mr Miliband said: “We’re going to carry on using the North Sea, including under a Labour Government, for a long time to come, you’re right about that.””
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Reminds me of Louis Carrol, believing in two contrary things at the same time.. How can two Labour brothers be so very, very different: last night David speaking sensibly and movingingldy about the Turkey-Syria earthquake and Ed about abandoning fossil fuels in the North Sea
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Alan, politicians remind me of Lewis Carroll on a daily basis:
“Why net zero is still the top priority for MPs and peers
A cross-party group of parliamentarians reaffirm their commitment to reaching the emissions target, as well as achieving energy security and lower bills for constituents”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/08/why-net-zero-is-still-the-top-priority-for-mps-and-peers
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Desperate and scary stuff:
And, by the way, if (as the recent NAO report suggests might be the case) the present government’s decarbonisation of electricity by 2035 intention is unachievable what hope is there for an incoming Labour government’s 2030 plan? Especially if the Shadow Health Secretary’s “grasp” of the issue, as shown in that Andrew Neil interview, is representative of the understanding of his colleagues.
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“UK ‘must act now on renewable energy or risk being left behind’
Government needs to introduce new ambitious energy policies before next general election, advisers say”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/09/uk-must-act-now-on-renewable-energy-or-risk-being-left-behind
Barking mad. If anyone can bear to read it, here’s the report referred to in the Guardian article:
https://www.theccc.org.uk/publication/delivering-a-reliable-decarbonised-power-system/
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They talk as if being left behind in this particular race is a bad thing. As you note, barking mad. There’s no grey area here: it’s nonsense. The worrying thing is that it’s so obviously nonsense that you wonder what sort of person would be incapable of recognising it as nonsense.
No to Net Zero.
No to national suicide.
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And if we thought Labour lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land, it appears that for some people it’s not sufficiently Cloud Cuckoo Land-esque:
“Climate activists warn Labour it risks losing support of young voters
Youth campaign group is calling on Keir Starmer’s party to commit to ‘decade of green new deal action’”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/10/climate-activists-warn-labour-it-risks-losing-support-of-young-voters
Read the article and weep.
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“Labour planning £8bn green revolution for UK industry in deprived regions
National wealth fund is intended to pull in private investment and create thousands of new jobs in areas beyond the south-east”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/12/labour-planning-8bn-green-revolution-for-uk-industry-in-deprived-regions
No doubt it sounds great to the climate-alarmed faithful. It isn’t:
Note that word “hoped”. It’s a bit like Labour’s plan to decarbonise the electricity grid by 2030. They don’t have a clue how to do it (as exemplified by Andrew Neil’s interview with Wes Streeting) but like Mr Micawber, they hope that something will turn up. It gets worse:
The massive subsidies we have all paid to date to renewables aren’t enough. We have to continue to subsidise the rest of the net zero shebang too. That’s the only way in which private investors can be persuaded to get on board, apparently. As illustrated by this:
What will it cost?
Ignoring the new £8Bn referred to in the headline, that’s 280 Bn over 10 years, to create 450,000 new jobs. Even assuming (an heroic assumption) that the jobs are created and don’t come to a premature end, That’s more than £620,000 per job. Doesn’t sound like a good investment to me, not least given that the plan is to wreck our energy supply system in the process. All to “save the planet”, with the slight snag that it won’t do any such thing. China, India et al, anyone?
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“The green elites are living in dreamland
Their ‘green industrial revolution’ is simply never going to happen.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/16/the-green-elites-are-living-in-dreamland/
It concludes:
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Interesting Mark. And James Woudhuysen points to this article in Windpower Monthly – a publication I have to admit hasn’t been on my daily reading list:
— No help for wind: Renewables industry reacts to UK budget
The first thought that comes to mind is ‘Diddums’. The second is that the impression that both Robin and I had about Hunt’s budget speech may reflect a deeper tide turning. Ever so slowly.
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Worth a read, IMO, not least by politicians!
“Energy Industries Club speech on energy security”
https://watt-logic.com/2023/03/24/eic-speech-energy-security/
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Renewables running at 60% yesterday but (Mark) the Braes of Doune site you see from Stirling had 1 turbine turning . On a good windy day like yesterday we should get a list of the sites not turning to get a real value of how many turbines we really need.
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“Labour urges ministers to show ‘ambition’ as it recasts green growth plan
The shadow net zero secretary Ed Miliband to set out how plan will create jobs in clean energy”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/28/labour-urges-ministers-to-show-ambition-as-it-recasts-green-growth-plan
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