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  1. #ClimateScan seems to be trending everyday this week
    The tweeters seem to be genuine people
    Probably mostly American and Canadian

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  2. Maybe this should go on a thread discussing our tendency to theory-build when we really don’t have a clue.

    But I can’t remember where that was.

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  3. And while we’re on people commenting on the tweets of mammal-lover Science girl:

    Didn’t know that about the size of bat cities. Jit probably did.

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  4. “But I can’t remember where that was”.

    Are you thinking of my ‘Deconstructing Scepticism” article where I discuss Nassim Taleb’s concept of the theorizing disease?

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  5. Countryfile was from north of Perth/Dundee in Scotland
    20:30 pm intro contains ✅ “Climate Change”
    Prog starts
    20:40 ✅ “Biodiversity town”

    The Charlotte Smith farming news item
    20:43 ✅ “Record breaking HEATWAVE
    20:43 ✅ “These EXTREME weather events are predicted to happen more often cos of Climate Change”
    20:43 “farming is under pressure ✅ “to reduce Climate Change”
    20:44 ✅ “Rewilding” 300,000 Hectares, that’s the England target for 20 years (same size as Lancashire)
    ✅ “Greenhouse gases”
    20:46 ✅ “Cost Of Living Crisis”
    20:48 Exeter farm shop ✅ “Henry Dimbleby ” BBC-royal family
    … says ‘agriculture is evil’ “one of the 2 biggest causes of ✅ Climate Change”

    HD “Since the 70s wheat yields have doubled
    and farmland birds have halved”
    doh We manage land differently now
    We used to have open rubbish heaps and used to put stuff on the soil (sewage chunks) that gulls would gobble up
    ..since we don’t do that there are less gulls
    birds of prey have come in and taken some small birds
    (I also guess the count is flaky eg doesn’t include pheasants)

    – Now Gloucs farmer planting wild flowers for birds and collecting a big grant that magic unicorns pay for.
    9% of his land
    – now Wiltshire with some eco famers
    – Now she’s at an indoor farm in Worcs
    The indoor farm is towers of lettuce pots like trees in a greenhouse
    Doh mostly no-one needs to buy lettuce ..it grows easily in a plant pot

    The reporter started up in Exeter
    so it seems like she’s travelled hundreds of miles in this report about SAVING CO2
    “having no self awareness” is a libmob characteristic

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  6. next item
    Adam said “unlike the sheep I can’t make money from horses”
    Doh his farm is a themepark that costs your family £60 to visit
    £15 for people older than four, Toddler (2-3)£10.00 per ticket too

    Countryside weekly weather
    21:18 ✅ “temperature records”
    21:18 ✅ “scientists say” ”
    that ✅these records wouldn’t have been possible without the effect of climate change”

    21:20 ✅ Drought porn “just 7% of the normal rainfall in the southeast”

    He’s kind of admitted he’s misleading cos the normal is for the whole of July,
    but his 2022 tallies DO NOT include the rain in the last few days

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  7. The Guardian on 1stAugust 2022:

    “UK farmers count cost as heatwave kills fruit and vegetable crops
    Fears of future threats to food security if more extreme heat caused by climate crisis hits production”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/01/uk-farmers-count-cost-as-heatwave-kills-fruit-and-vegetable-crops

    The Guardian on 22nd July 2022:

    “Prices fall as UK heatwave produces glut of soft fruit
    Yields of cherries, strawberries and blueberries could more than double on the same time last year”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/22/prices-fall-as-uk-heatwave-produces-glut-of-soft-fruit

    And there’s also this:

    “‘The vines are loving it’: Hot, dry summer set to make 2022 a great year for English wine”

    https://inews.co.uk/news/english-wine-2022-hot-dry-summer-vines-great-year-1771226?ITO=msn

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  8. I’ve been checking up about the GreatDrought claims that the media has got carried away with
    Their narrative is “We We We are in a drought”
    even our local media is doing that yet their weather focasts keep telling us about rain

    So I can see maybe there is a bone dry southeast cos that is what the journos and activist make out
    yet if you go to Twitter and search on : county and raining
    You see people tweeting that it rained in the garden eg in a lot of SE places on the night of the 21/22
    And when I check the Met Office WOW graphs I see it for some stations, but not others
    .. So the idea of a bone dry county is wrong
    but since the rain falls in pockets, some stations did record less than 10mm in the whole of July

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  9. Give me strength:

    “Climate change: More studies needed on possibility of human extinction”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62378157

    “Catastrophic climate change outcomes, including human extinction, are not being taken seriously enough by scientists, a new study says.

    The authors say that the consequences of more extreme warming – still on the cards if no action is taken – are “dangerously underexplored”.

    They argue that the world needs to start preparing for the possibility of what they term the “climate endgame”.

    They want UN scientists to investigate the risk of catastrophic change.

    According to this new analysis, the closest attempts to directly understand or address how climate change could lead to global catastrophe have come from popular science books such as The Uninhabitable Earth and not from mainstream science research….”.

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  10. “Northern Ireland records driest July this century”. When you click on the link at the BBC website, it morphs into “Northern Ireland weather: Just over 50% of normal rainfall for July”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62384227

    “It has been the driest July this century in Northern Ireland, with just over 50% of the normal monthly rainfall.

    A total of 45.8mm of rain was recorded for the whole month. It has not been as dry since 2000 when just 40mm of rain fell.”

    “This century” sounds so much more dramatic than “in 22 years”.

    Climate change?

    “Some parts of Northern Ireland have been wetter than others.

    Armagh, for example, recorded just 24mm of rain in July, whereas Castlederg recorded more than three times that amount at 76mm.”

    Doesn’t sound like that. In fairness, for once, they don’t claim that it is, although they do mention that as well as being dry in Northern Ireland in July it also saw some flooding. At that point the BBC couldn’t help itself:

    “An academic from Queen’s University, Belfast, has warned that further such flooding is likely as climate change takes hold.”

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  11. Morrisons launch range of supposed carbon-neutral eggs from chickens fed exclusively upon insects. Insects fed on Morrisons own brand of food waste. Omelettes will never seem the same.

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  12. Mark (7:38 AM):

    The ridiculous PNAS paper discussed has this at the start:

    Edited by Kerry Emanuel, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA

    How the mighty have fallen. See the Boston Globe of 16 May 2010:

    A cooling trend
    They were friends as global warming skeptics, but then their minds and lives diverged. That these MIT experts now see the facts, and each other, so differently shows how hard climate consensus will be.

    That’s talking about Emanuel and Lindzen of course. 12 more years and it’s deeper into the mire of selling-out for KE.

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  13. Two familiar names on Twitter. I’m not sure if Jaime’s guess is right but the aggregate fact is amazing – and of course flies in the face of green doomsterism.

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  14. Also re: Mark (7:38 AM)

    In the article, Dr Luke Kemp of Cambridge University is quoted as saying:

    “Understanding these plausible but grim scenarios is something that could galvanise both political and civil opinion. We saw this when it came to the identification of the idea of a nuclear winter that helped compel a lot of the public efforts as well as the disarmament movement throughout the 1970s and ’80s.”

    Yes, which is exactly what the Kremlin had in mind when it started its scientific hoax. And I do mean hoax. This is not one of those conspiracy theories we sceptics are said to love. The ‘idea of nuclear winter’, is a well-documented hoax that came and went without anyone losing their job over it. Is that what Dr Kemp is suggesting? We need another hoax to help ‘compel’ people? Or is he just so ill-informed that he still thinks nuclear winter was a respectable scientific theory?

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  15. The following in the Daily Telegraph today:

    “History students warned accounts of religious miracles may disturb them”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/history-students-warned-accounts-of-religious-miracles-may-disturb-them/ar-AA10dNjM

    Apparently, some of the stuff that went on in medieval times was a bit graphic for today’s sensitive youngsters. It can only be a matter of time before the Bible has to carry the following on its front cover:

    “Warning: Some readers may find parts of this book triggering”.

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  16. Thurs 4th August 9am & 9pm BBCRadio4 Sangita Myska show
    Ep.1 asks, “Can ‘feeling the future’ help solve the *climate crisis* ?’.

    Does the BBC have an editorial line
    that there is a “Climate Crisis” ?

    That looks to me like PR word, not a science word
    Just like river courses change, climate changes,
    that doesn’t mean it’s a CRISIS

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  17. John – “Warning: Some readers may find parts of this book triggering”

    funny you should mention that. I’m reading “Giving the Devil His Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist by Michael Shermer” – amazon book blurb –

    “Who is the ‘Devil’? And what is he due? The Devil is anyone who disagrees with you. And what he is due is the right to speak his mind. He must have this for your own safety’s sake because his freedom is inextricably tied to your own. If he can be censored, why shouldn’t you be censored? If we put barriers up to silence ‘unpleasant’ ideas, what’s to stop the silencing of any discussion? This book is a full-throated defense of free speech and open inquiry in politics, science, and culture by the New York Times bestselling author and skeptic Michael Shermer. The new collection of essays and articles takes the Devil by the horns by tackling five key themes: free thought and free speech, politics and society, scientific humanism, religion, and the ideas of controversial intellectuals. For our own sake, we must give the Devil his due.”

    triggering is one of the topics he has a go at.

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  18. John (02 AUG 22 AT 2:19 PM): Very interesting point, thank you. I didn’t know nothing about nuclear winter, positive or negative. So at least I avoided the trap of the many who “know something that ain’t so” as one of Thomas Sowell’s favourite sayings goes. Like the esteemed Dr Kemp by the sound of it.

    Open advocacy of deception? I woudn’t go that far. Not caring, despite the enormity of the issues at stake? I assume so.

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  19. John and dfhunter: I wouldn’t make the bible a special case. But I’m reminded of one of my closest friends from school, who like me made a commitment to Christ in those days. We met up recently and he told me of three major challenges/setbacks he’d had in the last ten years. (I knew some of it already, including the bracing choice presented after bladder cancer was diagnosed: you can either die or probably die. He went with the latter and he’s now got the all-clear on that.)

    But the third bombshell I didn’t know about: Cambridge has turned him down for a PhD on his very novel ideas on what the author of the book of Job is up to with the Hebrew language. (“Far greater than Shakespeare” is one of the outcomes in Simon’s mind.) “Too eccentric” my alma mater said. That was bound to pique my interest. And then a 30-year-old scholar and associate professor at Edinburgh heard about it and has picked it up as supervisor. And she, Simon says, is brilliant.

    Anyway, it reminded me of other areas of academia. No risk, no reward. Read the difficult bits. And think deeply about them.

    [Correction: Cambridge said “Too idiosyncratic.” Even better.]

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  20. Bladder cancer is common
    First you have minor chemo
    then if it comes back you can opt for major chemo
    or have the bladder cut out
    For women they put a tap on your stomach and fit it to a plastic bladder that it under your shirt.
    Life is then normal except when it accidentally disconnects.

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  21. Local news is leading with the wind turbine fire in Hull
    a solitary turbine on an industrial site recently sold to Cargill by Croda International

    “Wind turbine blaze sends smoke billowing across Hull – live updates
    In dramatic scenes, a large plume of smoke is flowing out of a turning windmill”
    It was in the generator winding at the back ..all destroyed now ..reporter said the fire was fueled by oil inside it
    and now it’s a pile of residue
    The turbine is still all there just very charred
    he says a team will be there to take it down

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/bankside-wind-turbine-blaze-sends-7414142

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  22. comments “One did this in Lincolnshire a few weeks back. Obviously some dodgy electronics up those towers.”

    Lot of recent Facebook posts. The Hull people seem very anti-turbine

    BBC tweet

    – a burning turbine probably generates more energy than a turning one
    – Is that the plan that the Earth will be cooled by blocking the sun with smoke from burning wind turbines ?

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  23. 2 days ago @SiemensGamesaUK tweeted
    Aug 1
    The first turbine at Kaskasi in Germany includes the first commercial RecyclableBlades,
    made in Hull, a turning point for the #offshorewind industry.

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  24. Stew on the exciting bladder cancer / urostomy bag details:

    Life is then normal except when it accidentally disconnects.

    Yep, the size of the bag is highly constrained by this ever-present and embarrassing risk.
    We went through all that. Yet it was a very jolly conversation.
    That’s long-duration friendship for you I guess.

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  25. Croda used it for virtue signalling
    “We already have sustainability initiatives at sites across the world, including a wind turbine at our Hull site
    which generated 40% of the site’s electricity in 2018”
    seems to be a 2 MW turbine
    Maybe 30% Cap factor
    So call that 600KW average output
    ie one 2 thousandth of a normal gas power station

    The maths on the web page says
    https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/wind-power/repower-signs-industrial-deal/#gref
    “The turbine produces approximately 17 megawatt-hours (MWh) of energy a day against an average business use of 30 MWh per day, any excess capacity is exported to the grid.”
    OK 17/(24hr x 2MW) = 35.4% cap factor
    I believe that is over optimistic and in reality 30% is more likely

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  26. Mark I just looked into the Trash .. they do seem to be genuine clever botposts
    The Spam box still has 3 genuine comments from 3 days ago ..are those people banned ?

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  27. Whenever the topic of colostomy bags is mentioned, my mind turns automatically to Billy Connolly’s stage performance with incontinence trousers. I know it’s wrong, but I cannot help myself. If ever there was a piece of anti-woke humour, that was it. Even without seeing it, just the memory of it brings a smile. I should be ashamed, but I’m not.

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  28. Stew, thanks for looking. I have deleted hundreds of dodgy posts that were in spam. The three genuine ones there now are duplicates of posts that I have already released. Frustrated commenters posted them twice. At this stage I have not deleted the duplicate posts that remain in spam for now.

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  29. “‘Grotesque greed’: immoral fossil fuel profits must be taxed, says UN chief
    António Guterres urges governments to introduce windfall levies and use money to support vulnerable people”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/03/greed-of-fossil-fuel-companies-is-grotesque-says-un-secretary-general

    “The UN secretary general, António Guterres, has described the record profits of oil and gas companies as immoral and urged governments to introduce a windfall tax, using the money to help those in the most need.

    Speaking in New York on Wednesday, Guterres said the “grotesque greed” of the fossil fuel companies and their financial backers had led to the combined profits of the largest energy companies in the first quarter of this year hitting almost $100bn (£82bn).

    “It is immoral for oil and gas companies to be making record profits from this energy crisis on the backs of the poorest people and communities, at a massive cost to the climate,” he said.

    “I urge all governments to tax these excessive profits, and use the funds to support the most vulnerable people through these difficult times.”

    Earlier this week, BP was the latest fossil fuel giant to announce huge gains, revealing it had tripled its profits to nearly £7bn in the second quarter of the year amid high oil prices during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    Guterres said such profits were unacceptable as people around the world faced financial ruin….”.

    But he says nothing about the immorality and grotesque greed of renewables companies both hoovering up subsidies and enjoying windfall profits and delaying triggering contracts for difference while they profit greatly from market prices instead, all on the backs of the poorest peoples and communities. Why not? Why the double standards?

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  30. [Prolly OT. I haven’t found a climate link yet.]

    Sue Limb has written some great sitcoms. (Gloomsbury is my favourite.) Her latest is called Mucking In. It’s about a couple who run an organic farm in the Cotswolds.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0019b3s

    As it happens, Limb actually lives on an organic farm in the Cotswolds. It’s a mile from Nanny Farmer’s Bottom, is owned by The National Trust and is run by Limb’s partner, Steve Redman, who, late last year, was found guilty of ‘failing to apply ear tags to sheep, not reporting animal movements and deaths, failing to properly dispose of animal carcasses and falsifying the birth records of 12 cattle’. That last offence was outright fraud, and officials had warned Redman about the other, perhaps lesser offences ‘on a number of occasions over many years’, but all he got was costs and a suspended 6-month sentence.

    Limb’s response?

    The new sitcom on Radio 4, Mucking In, obvz.

    Here’s the first episode:

    Secrets, Lies and Pointless Piles of Paperwork

    On Dangerfield Farm, the annual organic inspection is Ben and Cicely’s nightmare. Not just because every aspect of Ben’s management will be probed, but also because Cicely has forgotten to keep the Visitors’ Book up to date and has to forge it at the last minute.

    A farm inspector is said to look like a psychopathic mass murderer with mad, staring eyes, a turkey neck, horribly small hands, a strange, harsh, dalek-like voice and nasty little glasses. ‘Chilling, really. I honestly thought – really! – when I first saw him: Josef Goebbels.’

    Right. Nasty pointless paperwork policed by nasty little Nazis with nasty little hands, nasty little glasses and so on.

    I couldn’t spot anything in the episode about simple fraud or preventing the spread of nasty little livestock diseases on a farm that receives more than £20k a year in subsidies, which subsidies obvz require Pointless Piles of Paperwork.

    Relevance to climate change?

    Erm…

    Redman buried some of the dead organic sheep under a pile of rotting organic potatoes, so there’s bound to be an organic Only Connect link out there somewhere.

    Laterz, perhaps.

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  31. Perhaps Guterres should have read this before pontificating?

    “Subsidised Renewables Revolt: Entrenched Energy Poverty Source of Next Revolution”

    https://stopthesethings.com/2022/08/03/subsidised-renewables-revolt-entrenched-energy-poverty-source-of-next-revolution/

    “…falling consumption is the direct result of the extremely high climate policy costs of adopting thermodynamically inferior renewable generation.

    The Emissions Trading Scheme, for example, has cost consumers some €78 billion in the period 2013 to 2021, and continues to add about €17 billion a year to bills.

    Subsidies to renewable energy have cost EU consumers about €770 billion in the period 2008 to 2021, and continue to add about €69 billion a year to bills.

    Further analysis reveals that electricity generation productivity has collapsed, with system load factor falling from an adequate 56% in 1990 to a worryingly inefficient and expensive 37% in 2020.

    The EU’s own data shows that energy prices have been consistently above the non-EU G20 average, with household electricity prices for example being 80% higher and industrial electricity prices being 30% higher, a difference that is largely due to policy. Similar effects are found in relation to both natural gas and transport fuel prices.

    In spite of this punishingly expensive support for renewables the EU member states have gained only a marginal share of the global market for renewable energy manufacturing, which is now dominated by Asia, and particularly China, where, in a bitter irony, manufacturing costs are lower because the energy supply in that region is principally derived from low-cost fossil fuels….”.

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  32. Now it’s Aberdeen University’s turn to be called out:

    “Beware being triggered by the monsters in ancient Beowulf poem, university warns students.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/beware-being-triggered-by-the-monsters-in-ancient-beowulf-poem-university-warns-students/ar-AA10gRRy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9680f502a4e840e98fe5c2ade738dd44

    The professors are warning students that the poem contains examples of ‘animal cruelty’ and ‘ableism’, though they are also keen to warn that ‘there will also be monsters’.

    But it isn’t just Beowulf that has been singled out for the snowflake treatment. A more general note has been issued:

    “Aberdeen’s cautionary note covering this text and others pre-warns students about “blasphemy, defecation, psychological violence, pain, alcohol abuse, symbols of evil, black magic” in the literature of the Middle Ages, as well as reference to “death, blood, eating disorders”.

    Eating disorders! Now that is going too far. Actually, those of you who read my latest article will know that the greatest horror to be revealed here is that there are professors at Aberdeen University who use terms such as ‘pre-warn’. I find that very triggering.

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  33. John, had to look up definition of ‘abilism’, and was immediately reminded by “she who must be listened to” of St. Gawain and the Green Knight, who, if we remember correctly ended up running around with no head. I’m sure that if St Gawain was on the syllabus, Aberdeen would have to go overboard with its warnings to innocent student buttercups.

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  34. Alan,

    I’m sure that the Green Knight story would be very triggering for the decapitated — or as we must say now, the differently headed.

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  35. Terrifying:

    “Twelve angry children: young jurors call adults to account for climate crisis in The Trials
    Dawn King’s new play at the Donmar imagines a reckoning for environmental chaos, presided over by the kids who inherit the mess. We join the writer and cast, including stars of Heartstopper, in rehearsal”

    https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2022/aug/04/climate-crisis-the-trials-dawn-king-play

    Still, the irony of the opening words is pretty overwhelming:

    “In 2019, the playwright Dawn King was booking flights to New York for a writing residency. It was the day of the UK’s first large-scale School Strikes for Climate, a movement launched by Greta Thunberg in Sweden. Checking her news feeds, King – who had meant to join the protests – realised she had clean forgotten. She winces at the memory.

    “I thought, ‘Wow, you think you’re so green, such a liberal, but you’re not helping, are you? In the future you’ll be judged as harshly as everyone else. What are you actually doing?’”…”.

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  36. The usual apocalyptic stuff from the Guardian:
    “Revealed: how climate breakdown is supercharging toll of extreme weather”
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/04/climate-breakdown-supercharging-extreme-weather
    It’s basically a compilation of attribution studies:
    “The question the world’s scientists are tackling is to what extent human-caused global heating is to blame for a particular extreme weather event as opposed to natural variability in weather patterns.
    Scientists calculate this by using weather records and computer models to compare two worlds. One is the world we are in, heated by our carbon emissions. The other is the world before the mass burning of fossil fuels and rising temperatures. Researchers assess how frequent a specific extreme weather event is in both worlds. If it is more intense or more frequent in our heated world, then the footprint of global heating is clear.”

    They essentially compare computer simulations of extreme events with and without anthropogenic forcing. While I can imagine it may be possible to calibrate and verify a computer model with weather data for the “world” with anthropogenic forcing it is not possible to calibrate the model for the condition without anthropogenic forcing. There are no data for that “world”. So they are having to make assumptions about the computer model parameters without being able to verify that the assumptions are correct..

    This also caught my eye:
    “Global heating has been hurting us for far longer than commonly assumed, with traces of its influence as far back as the heatwaves and droughts that triggered the infamous Dust Bowl in the US in the mid-1930s.”
    So now those pesky deniers will no longer be able claim that the extreme high temperatures and drought in the 1930s demonstrate that current conditions are not exceptional.

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  37. potentilla,

    “Global heating has been hurting us for far longer than commonly assumed, with traces of its influence as far back as the heatwaves and droughts that triggered the infamous Dust Bowl in the US in the mid-1930s.”

    I don’t think we pesky deniers can be prevented from pointing to such things. The USA has still seen nothing to compare to the extraordinary weather of the late 1920s and 1930s. Given how much CO2 and other GHGs have been pumped into the atmosphere since then. Today’s climate should, according to the theory, be much more extreme, but despite the best efforts to present it that way, it isn’t.

    And how far back will they go? Can they trace its influence in the UK heatwave summer of 1911? In the droughts and floods in the UK in the 19th century? If they go too far down that road, they undermine their case completely.

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  38. Paul Homewood has a piece up today about how the Met Office, after a few wet summers, predicted in 2013 that wet summers would become the norm in the UK for the next 10-20 years:

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/08/05/flashback-met-office-predict-wet-uk-summers/

    He links to an article about this in the Huffington Post, but I thought – in view of its near-hysteria regarding this year’s hot and dry summer in part of England, that I would see how the Guardian reported it at the time. Here’s what I found (from 19th June 2013):

    “”Met Office meeting: UK’s spell of awful summers is set to continue
    Forecast that Britain could be in middle of 10-20 year ‘cycle’ of wet summers delivered following gathering at Met Office”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/18/climate-uk-weather-summer-rain

    “Don’t worry, summer is on its way – but you might have to wait until 2023.

    As the prospect of another gloomy Glastonbury and wet Wimbledon looms, leading climate scientists have warned that the UK could be set for a further five to 10 years of washout summers.

    The grim conclusion was delivered after an unprecedented gathering of scientists and meteorologists at the Met Office in Exeter to debate the range of possible causes for Europe’s “unusual seasonal weather” over recent years, a sequence that has lasted since 2007.

    Many will have hoped for news of sunnier times ahead. But after experts brainstormed through the day they delivered the shock finding that the UK could be in the middle of a 10-20 year “cycle” of wet summers. The last six out of seven summers in the UK have seen below-average temperatures and sunshine, and above-average rainfall….

    …The scientists must now address what “dynamical drivers” are causing this cycle, Belcher said. The meeting debated a range of possible interconnected reasons for the unusual weather of recent years, including this year’s cold spring and the freezing winter of 2010/11. The most likely cause for the wet summers, he said, was the Atlantic multi-decadal oscillation, or AMO, a natural pattern of long-term changes to ocean currents.

    Other candidate causes that could be “loading the dice”, as Belcher described it, include a shift in the jet stream, solar variability and fast-retreating Arctic sea ice. Aggravating all of these factors could be the influence of anthropogenic greenhouse gases entering the atmosphere…”.

    In fairness, the article is hedged about with lots of caveats and conditional clauses, but it’s still rather amusing. I’m guessing that having now told us that climate change means we’re all going to fry and run out of water, things might go back to being wet and cool for a few summers….

    This article from 3 days later offers up a few giggles:

    “40 consequences of 10 wet summers: what will a decade of rain do to us?
    Forecasters have warned that we may need to get used to washout summers, perhaps for the next 10 years. From wildlife to camping to fashion, what will this do to us a nation?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/22/40-consequences-10-wet-summers

    Among those consequences are things like:

    “Thought you’d need drought-resistant Mediterranean plants in your plot? Think again. Gardening expert Alys Fowler says there is nothing to fear from unpredictable weather if we grow as wide a variety of plants and vegetables as possible, and perhaps switch from tomatoes, aubergines and bell peppers to tougher veggies such as globe and jerusalem artichokes or rhubarb. Flower-wise, it’s back to the English cottage garden with delphiniums and geraniums.”

    And:

    “Damp summers mean an increase in vegetation growth – so for those who like a tidy lawn, the mower is going to be in constant use, according to Matthew Oates from the National Trust. Nettles, brambles and other “thuggish” vegetation will grow rampantly, to the detriment of shorter, more delicate grasses. There will be more weeds and slugs, who love damp weather, but pesticide sprays and weedkiller will be washed off more easily by the continuous rain – so it’ll be harder work for gardeners all round.”

    And:

    “Delicate, warmth-loving winged insects such as butterflies, bees and hoverflies hate the rain because it damages their wings, so they will be less widespread across the country. Instead, they will retreat to safer colonies, such as those in large nature reserves. The animals and birds that feed on them, from bats to swifts and swallows, will also be affected by this loss, says Oates.”

    And:

    “Endless winters and washout summers have already taken their toll on the fashion houses’ beloved “seasons”. As a result, brands are increasingly going seasonless, says Greene, instead stocking key wardrobe pieces all year round.”

    And (I particularly like this one):

    “More hosepipe bans
    Yes, really. As water stocks are replenished in winter rather than summer, a summer of rain may have little effect on a hosepipe ban, according to hosepipeban.org.uk. Summer rains are less useful because a large percentage of it evaporates or is used by vegetation.”

    And so much more!

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  39. What’s really curious also is how quickly people forget recent weather, and how the climate change narrative at the likes of the BBC and the Guardian changes seamlessly to blame whatever unusual weather we might have from time to time on “climate change”. Here’s the BBC, from just over a decade ago:

    “Summer ‘wettest in 100 years’, Met Office figures show”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19427139

    “This summer is set to be the second wettest in the UK since records began – and the wettest summer in 100 years – provisional Met Office figures suggest.

    The wettest summer – defined as June, July and August – since national records began was in 1912.

    Figures up until 29 August show that 366.8 mm of rain fell across the UK this summer, compared with 384.4 mm rainfall in 1912.

    The April to June period was also the wettest recorded in the UK.

    The figures are provisional as there are still two days remaining in August, but the BBC Weather Centre said the rainfall was not expected to exceed the total amount in 1912. Records began in 1910.

    BBC weather presenter Laura Tobin said this summer had been so wet because a jet stream – a fast moving band of air high in atmosphere – from America, which should be sitting across Scotland and the north of England, was much further south this year.

    “It meant June was the wettest on record – most places had over one-and-a-half times more rain than they should have.

    “July was also one of the wettest months ever, with some areas like Dorset breaking records. August has been about average,” she said….”.

    I suppose to give them their due, they didn’t blame it on “climate change”, but then I suppose it didn’t really fit the narrative.

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  40. PJW put up a new video about Spain and Germany making new anti-AC and anti-heating laws
    https://youtu.be/l3NS9DM8Nw8

    His blurb points out Big Brother doesn’t didn’t like that
    “Demonetized – for talking about air conditioning (obviously!) ”

    BTW YouTube has placed a Covid warning below the video
    Yet PJW doesn’t mention Covid, in the video

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  41. “BBC weather presenter Laura Tobin said this summer had been so wet because a jet stream – a fast moving band of air high in atmosphere – from America”

    well to fair to Laura the jet stream was never mentioned much back then, in the mists of time.

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  42. Commonwealth Games viewer
    Anyway, the Scots lass was going on about sports people for climate change and puts up two young women of colour.
    1 from Papua New Guinea* and 1 from Zambia.
    They both bang on about rising water levels co2 levels and other such crap. It transpires that they are both teachers of young children and it seems the continuously spout this drivel to the children in their care.
    Nobody asked them how they got from PNG and Zambia to Birmingham, probably on airplanes powered with unicorn juice.

    There area few complaint tweets at 3:47pm Friday
    2 praise tweet too https://twitter.com/christill/status/1555580986552885253
    Hazel Irvine interviewed two female athletes from Fiji and Zambia about climate change.
    *so not PNG

    ” both bang on about rising water levels” … not possible, cos Zambia is a land locked country

    BTW BBCsport tweeted a video
    #BBCFootball Jurgen Klopp has compared fixture congestion to climate change

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  43. I’ll do a transcript.. Its a carefully crafted BBC NewsPR Nudgevert,
    complete with video montages, drone shots and plinky plonk brainwashing background music.
    It started just before the 1h50min mark https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0019vg5/commonwealth-games-day-8-bbc-one-13451800-beach-volleyball-lawn-bowls-badminton-diving
    Hazel Irvine anchoring in the studio
    It’s massive so the transcript is here
    http://bishophill.squarespace.com/discussion/post/2790773

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  44. An XR oldie (August 2021):

    The flautist’s tuneless noodlings remind me of a 1990s comedy sketch. I don’t think it’s Little Britain’s Ray McCooney or The Fast Show’s occasional pan pipes thing.

    It’s stuck in my head: der duh der der duh de-duuuuur. Earworm hell. Can anyone put me out of my confused misery, please?

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  45. Were they playing musical chairs? No idea what the flautist was playing – tuneless is the word!

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  46. stewgreen, they live in a world that I don’t recognise. In the world I inhabit, we’re bombarded morning, noon and night by the media with climate alarmism, and while it (the daily propaganda) is getting worse, it’s been going on for decades, not just the last three years. As for those who dare to question aspects of the narrative (deniers, in some people’s world) being allowed air-time, who do they think they’re kidding?

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  47. Mark, a pink oboe would surely have suited XR’s brand better than a flute.

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  48. UEA Ecology Professor attributes swarms of spider crabs infesting shallow waters off a Cornish beach to shed their shells to warming waters (caused by guess what?). Does he give a measure of this warming? Does he heck?

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  49. Well I never: spider crabs or crab spiders. There’s a difference? Well I’ll only eat one of them. The Guardian doesn’t seem to care at all.

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  50. 8:42pm Countryfile
    The Climate Change bit
    “Here’ a buried Roman fort called Magna .. do you know the peat bog here is drying up ?”
    .. So hang on the Roman’s didn’t build on a peat bog
    The peat bog came later that’s why Roman artefacts are discovered in it.

    I just checked Hadrian’s wall recent rainfall .. a lot of days with rain .. It’s not the dry southeast of England

    (Magnis or Magna or Magnae Carvetiorum was a Roman fort on Hadrian’s Wall in northern Britain. Its ruins are now known as Carvoran Roman Fort and are located near Carvoran )

    BBC Charlotte “Climate change here could have a real impact on our past !”

    10 mins later As the credits rolled they were playing a trailer for the three part series “Big Oil vs The World ” a series which propagates a myth that big oil is against mad global warming policies

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  51. This morning on my Apple News app I read an item about crabs infesting beaches in Cornwall. Seemed remarkably similar to last weeks BBC news story but was attributed to Sky News with no mention of BBC.
    Let’s see: Crabs venomous check
    Response to warm waters/climate change check
    Mention of previous shark attack check

    So who’s story is it?

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  52. Alan,

    You might find that it is all from the same original copy, as provided by Reuters or similar. A lot of these news outlets don’t write their own stuff.

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  53. In Newsbank, the Mirror was the first newspaper.or news agency to cover this year’s Cornish crab spiderspider crab swarms. Tuesday 2nd Aug. Nothing very scary. Some ‘locals’ (prolly grockles) were said to be disgusted by the crabs and climate change got a brief mention but the story was mostly about the the wonders of nature. (On the same day the Beeb put Katie Maggs’s video on its website. The Mirror might have been, er, mirroring that.)

    The leg-biting ‘just off Penzance’ blue shark (real, though it happened in deep water about 15 miles from Penzance) and the ‘harmless to humans’ crab venom (totally fake) invaded the Cornish crab swarm arena three days later in two very similar stories, a new one in the Mirror (different authors from the first) and one in the Telegraph. One of those stories copied the other or they both copied a story that’s not in Newsbank.

    Lots more papers then parroted those two stories’ sensationalism and falsehoods on the 6th (Times, Sun, Indie, Graun and Daily Star), with the Star adding a new factoid that I don’t think anyone else has recycled yet: the supposedly venomous spider crabs are called ‘Godfather’ crabs because they ‘originate from Mafia territory in Sicily’.

    Prolly thinking of crab spiders again.

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  54. 6:14pm TV Climate debate @GBNEWS @MichelleDewbs show
    David Kurten vs alarmist Jo Phillips (ex staffer of Paddy Ashdown)

    “We are in a Climate Catastrophe”
    “but EVERY leading *scientific body in the world* says we are facing a Climate Emergency, the ozone layer has got holes in it …
    glaciers are melting, ice shelves are melting, we are seeing huge changes that can’t be put down to ,
    and we don’t have energy independence cos we import so much gas ”
    .. * no they don’t ..that is a PR word .. and she just mixed Climate and Ozone hole

    Kurten “we don’t have energy independence cos since 2014 the gov has closed 11 of the 14 coal power stations”

    Phillips “Are you a scientist !”
    DK “Yes I am”
    Phillips “You are beginning to sound like a flat Earther”

    DK “sure CO2 has increased for 3 to 4 molecules, sure temps have increased from 14 to 14.7 over the last 250 years
    but the basis we were coming out of the Medieval ice age and before that temps were much warmer”
    Phillips “I find this verging on the DANGEROUS this sort of theory, we are in a Climate Crisis and we will get to the point where we can’t do anything about it !”

    viewer “but scientists who don’t conform are censored”
    Phillips “The BBC in particular has attempted balance,
    so I don’t think those views are censored, saying they are is going down the route of BONKERS CONSPIRACY THEORY”

    Kurten “In the 80s BBC had Attenborough and David Bellamy
    when Bellamy came out saying CO2 is not a problem, they censored him”

    @MichelleDewbs then pointed out that Phillips calling Kurten a FlatEarther is a kind of censorship

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  55. “Climate change: Alps glaciers melting faster as heatwaves hit”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-62466095

    Melting glaciers in the Alps are on track for their highest mass losses in at least 60 years, according to data seen by Reuters.

    The area saw two early summer heatwaves and little snowfall last winter.

    Zermatt, a Swiss mountain village which usually sees July temperatures in the twenties, has had recent highs of 30C (86F).

    Having spent time climbing in the Alps, this is a situation of interest to me, and I readily accept that this year is unusual. However, what sort of terrible news is it that Zermatt in July normally sees temperatures in the twenties (would that be 21C or 29C?) but this year has seen them reach highs of 30C (recent highs – July or August?). Also – “data seen by Reuters” (but presumably not by the BBC) is hearsay at this stage, not really news. Plus “highest mass losses in at least 60 years” suggests that mass losses were probably higher in the middle of the 20th century. As scare stories go it’s pretty limp, really.

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  56. Is Matt becoming a sceptic?

    “US climate bill success masks scale of warming challenge”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62464546

    “…Taken together with measures to penalise methane leaks and $20bn to cut emissions in agriculture, the whole package will likely cut US emissions by 40% below 2005 levels, according to analysis.

    This is well below the 50-52% cut promised by President Biden just last year, but the fact that the US will be able to go a long way towards meeting that target is being seen as a victory, at least by American observers.

    That promise was part of the pledges for 2030 from around the globe that experts at Climate Action Tracker suggested would put the world on course of 2.4C of warming this century.

    On the surface, if the US is not able to make its full 50-52% promised cut, then getting below 2.4C looks tough.

    It’s worth repeating that this is well above the threshold of 1.5C of warming – compared with pre-industrial levels – that scientists say is critical to avoid very dangerous impacts….

    …But will the new act spur greater efforts from other countries?

    So far the reaction has been muted. Observers say it is progress, but it comes after decades of failure to put legislation on the books.

    The bill will also do little to repair relations with China, the world’s biggest carbon emitter.

    China broke off discussions with the US on climate issues last week in retaliation for the visit to Taiwan of the House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Climate was one of the few areas where relations between the superpowers remained positive.

    Without a level of trust and agreement between the two, the Paris climate agreement would never have been born.

    At last year’s COP26 gathering in Glasgow, co-operation between the two helped the talks achieve some progress.

    All that now lies in ruins – and the knock-on effects are not likely to be positive…

    …Other major emitters like India and Brazil will likely focus on the fact that the emissions reductions contained in the bill fall well short of what President Biden has publicly promised.

    And many developing nations are wondering where the cash is that they have been repeatedly promised to tackle rising temperatures.

    “Although the US bill provides $370bn in climate spending, those of us in the Global South are wondering why the US and other rich countries have failed to keep their own promise to collectively provide $100bn of climate finance to poor and vulnerable countries by 2020,” said Mohamed Adow, the director of the Power Shift Africa think tank, who welcomed the progress the bill represents.

    With just a couple of months to go before the next major climate conference, COP27 in Egypt, the omens for progress are strikingly poor, despite the US bill.

    The war in Ukraine and global worries over inflation and fuel supplies next winter are dominating public concerns, despite the heatwaves and droughts that are currently stalking the world.”

    It sounds as though even Matt has his doubts that this will achieve much, if anything, with regard to global climate. Or, to be fair, perhaps this is just balanced reporting.

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  57. Meanwhile, as for energy security in the UK….

    “UK braces for even higher bills as Norway threatens electricity export cut
    Water levels in southern Norway so low domestic consumers may be prioritised over international customers”

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/08/uk-braces-for-even-higher-bills-as-norway-threatens-electricity-export-cut

    “British consumers could face even higher bills and potential energy shortages this winter after Norway threatened to ration electricity exports.

    The UK receives hydroelectric power from Norway through a subsea interconnector cable running beneath the North Sea.

    However, water levels in southern Norway have been so low this year that the country’s government could put its own consumers ahead of international customers.

    Residents of the country’s capital, Oslo, have been asked to take shorter showers and turn off the tap when brushing their teeth as its reservoirs have been depleted by the dry weather experienced across Europe.

    The oil and energy minister, Terje Aasland, told the Norwegian parliament on Monday that refilling dams will be prioritised over power production when levels fall below the seasonal average.

    The move is a blow to the UK, as well as countries such as Germany and the Netherlands, which rely on cheap Norwegian hydropower. A 450-mile interconnector joins Blyth, Northumberland, to Kvilldal power station.

    The €1.6bn (£1.35bn) North Sea Link cable, which was switched on last October, is able to channel up to 1.4 gigawatts of electricity between the two countries when demand is high in the UK and there is low domestic wind generation. This is enough to power about 5% of British homes.

    Aasland said that electricity production in southern Norway was down 18% on last year and production in south-west Norway last week was the lowest seen this year so far….”.

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  58. “There is No Food Crisis – If Only We Stopped Burning it as ‘Green’ Biofuel”

    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/08/there-is-no-food-crisis-if-only-we-stopped-burning-it-as-green-biofuel/

    “We’ve all been bombarded daily with horror stories about how food prices are being forced up and hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest risk starvation because the Russian invasion of Ukraine has prevented exports of grain and sunflower oil.

    Well, let me give you some figures our politicians and the mainstream media don’t want to mention. They don’t mention these figures because these figures undermine the disastrous global-warming, climate-catastrophist, Net-Zero policies being forced on us by our rulers.

    The U.S. produces abut 384 million metric tonnes of corn each year and around 50 million tonnes of wheat. Ukraine produces about 38 million tonnes of corn each year and around 33 million tonnes of wheat. Around 20 million tonnes of Ukraine’s wheat is exported each year.

    Conclusion 1: The U.S. produces an awful lot more food than Ukraine.

    But let’s look at how all the USA’s corn and wheat is actually used. Over a third of the USA’s corn – that’s more than 128 million tonnes of the USA’s corn production – is used to make biofuels rather than being used for human consumption.

    It’s more difficult to find out how much of the U.S.’s 38 million tonnes of wheat is used for biofuels, but it may be as much as a quarter. However, we do know that in the European Union, 12 million tonnes of grain, including wheat and maize, is turned into ethanol – around 7% of the bloc’s production. It’s estimated that this is enough food to feed around 150 million people if it wasn’t being used for transport fuel.

    Also just in the EU, 3.5 million tonnes of palm oil is used to make biodiesel. That’s almost the amount of sunflower oil coming out of Ukraine and Russia combined.

    Conclusion 2: We’re burning food rather than using it to feed people.

    You may have noticed that last year the petrol you buy changed from something called ‘E5’ to ‘E10’. E5 petrol is petrol containing 5% biofuel and E10 is, of course, petrol containing 10% biofuel.

    According to calculations done by scientists at Princeton University, if the U.S. and Europe were to decrease their use of ethanol made from grain by 50% – that would mean just moving back from E10 petrol to E5 petrol – they would effectively have sufficient extra crops to replace all of Ukraine’s exports of grain.”

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  59. “Britain’s water shortages have nothing to do with climate change
    Scaremongering about droughts lets the government and the water firms off the hook.”

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/08/08/britains-water-shortages-have-nothing-to-do-with-climate-change/

    “…But we don’t really face a drought at all in Britain. As Future Cities Project director Austin Williams has pointed out, the Environment Agency itself, in announcing the National Drought Group, admitted that ‘nowhere in England is currently considered to be “in drought”’.

    If there is a water crisis right now, then it is a crisis of water management. The Environment Agency claims that ‘most water companies are maintaining good reservoir storage for summer demand’. But this is questionable. Britain has consistently failed to invest in the new reservoirs we need. Indeed, in June 2021 councillors in Hampshire gave the go-ahead for Portsmouth Water to build a new water reservoir at Havant Thicket, for £120million. But this will be the first new reservoir in the south of England since 1973.

    It is not just reservoirs that have been neglected, either. In recent years, the regulator, Ofwat, together with the Environment Agency, fined Southern Water shareholders a total of £216million after the company failed to invest properly in wastewater treatment. It was also made to pay £90million for illegally discharging sewage into rivers and the sea, on nearly 7,000 occasions.

    Just as the water companies are telling ordinary folk that every drop of water counts, water firms are collectively losing 2.4 billion litres of water per day from leaks. Meanwhile, as companies urge their customers to forgo the paddling pool this summer, top executives bask in the heat around their 40-foot swimming pools. No doubt they are protected – by well-watered, high-growing shrubs – from the gaze of Britain’s nosey parkers, whom they otherwise wish to encourage.

    On top of all this, the water industry is plagued by financial problems. In 2021, its net debt amounted to £56 billion. Southern Water was headed for bankruptcy until the Australian bank Macquarie rescued it. Thames Water, owned by a consortium led by Macquarie, is the UK’s largest water and sewerage company and is one of the sector’s most indebted firms. In 2012, the China Investment Corporation (CIC), China’s sovereign wealth fund, bought nearly nine per cent of the consortium for an undisclosed sum.

    Yet despite all the industry’s problems, the government and the water companies have directed their efforts towards reducing the public’s demand for water, whether through fines, tips or so-called smart meters, which are supposed to make us feel guilty about every drop we use. What we really need is more and better water infrastructure – from reservoirs to sewage works to new and clever piping. Water is a vital resource. And with the right infrastructure, it is literally impossible to run out of it.

    A sensible programme of investment could solve any of the problems thrown up by low rainfall or other shortages. An advanced industrialised country should not tolerate restrictions on our use of water. But the cosy set-up between a crony-capitalist industry and an environmentalist government means that securing our water supply won’t happen anytime soon.”

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  60. Phillips did say she thought “some Climate coverage has been rather alarmist and that doesn’t help”
    “I don think there has NOT been censorship against people who can back up their view with science

    @MichelleDewbs “about Covid do you think non-approved view people were censored”
    Phillips “NO !”
    Phillips doesn’t seem to be aware that Facebook and twitter slap warning over people’s posts

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  61. “Supermarket food could soon carry eco-labels, says study”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62460551

    “Supermarket shoppers could soon be checking the environmental impact of food before putting it in their trolleys, thanks to new research.

    Reliable information of this kind hasn’t been available.

    That’s because UK manufacturers only have to list their main ingredients, and that’s by percentage, not amount.

    Scientists have overcome the problem by using public databases to estimate the composition of thousands of food products and their impact.

    Many consumers want to know how their weekly food shop affects the planet, even though rising prices will likely be a more immediate concern for most.

    Prof Peter Scarborough from Oxford University told BBC News he hopes that the research leads to an eco-labelling system for customers, but he believes that the bigger impact would come if the food industry uses it to cut its environmental footprint.”

    Look at the example of foods set out in the table within the article. The irony is that this is completely contrary to the constant campaigning against junk foods. Some of the foods with the best eco-scores are fizzy drinks, yorkshire pudding, sausage rolls and ready meals. And while fresh salad and dips do well, deli meat and cheese, nuts and dried fruit score badly. I wonder when somebody in a position of influence will notice.

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  64. According to SkS a few days ago…

    …John Cook’s most popular Cranky Uncle cartoon is the one about boiling frogs.

    And yet the boiling frogs thing is a long-debunked myth.

    Comments?

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  65. Vinny,

    Firstly, the boiling frog is indeed an urban myth. Callous scientists have performed the experiment and they all jumped out.

    Secondly, the cognitive bias that Cook refers to as the ‘anecdote fallacy’ is one of those that the IPCC realised they needed to turn to their advantage. Knowing that people are unduly influenced by what is immediately apparent to them, they realised that all extreme weather events could be used to give immediacy to climate change. Hence, “I see Kentucky flooded today so there must be climate change”. It’s proper name is the availability heuristic and the trick has worked rather well for them. Still, I like to call them Cranky IPCC.

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  66. Emma Thompson has been on an another eschatonanist holiday, this time in Venice.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/02/emma-thompson-greenwashing-climate-catastrophe-activism-fossil-fuel-advertising-sponsorship

    Why, it seems only yesterday that she flew to eco-holibobs in Greenland, Canada, California, Costa Rica, Alaska, Peru, Kiribati, Piccadilly Circus and Hampstead.

    Keep up the good work, Emma! And ignore people who call you an ignorant, hypocritical and hyperprivileged narcissist. Mwaaah! Mwaaah!

    (I like ‘Cranky IPCC’, John.)

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  67. The article informs me that Emma Thompson is an actor and activist. Is she one of those ‘bad actors’ that the Institute for Strategic Dialogue was warning me about? She certainly seems to be fully signed up to the ‘it had nothing to do with me, the oil companies filled up my SUV whilst I wasn’t looking’ alibi. That sounds like bad acting to me.

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  68. TalkTV now Climate Change debate call in
    with Brian Catt @catandman
    Physicist, Engineer, Tech Business (rtd)
    “I was censored by the IET , I was supposed to give an IET lecture, but the Twitterati threated to picket the lecture so the IET cancelled it ‘

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  69. Continuing the spider crab discussion:

    “Call to report sightings of spider crabs off Cornwall”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-62476959

    “Matt Slater, marine conservation officer at Cornwall Wildlife Trust, said: “I’ve spent my whole career trying to get people to appreciate amazing marine animals like spider crabs.

    “Reports of them being venomous are simply untrue and could damage their reputation.

    “Please go out, enjoy our coastline responsibly and admire these sensational spider crab displays should you be so lucky to see one.”

    There have been sightings of the gatherings in popular tourists spots including Newquay, St Ives, Falmouth and St Austell in recent weeks.”

    So, a corrective there. Whether their appearance in large numbers is good news or bad news depends on whether you’re the BBC or a marine conservation officer:

    “Marine biologists believe the increase is a direct result of climate change prompting warming sea temperatures.

    Matt Slater, marine conservation officer at the trust, said: “We hope that these mass sightings are a sign that spider crab populations are healthy.

    “Our seas are full of surprises and there’s still so much we don’t know about them.””

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  70. connected to this is how big tech gaslights us
    by rigging the comment systems
    On Twitter Facebook and YouTube the order of comments is no longer in order of Likes, but some weird algorithm that hides some comments and elevates others.

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  71. Marine biologists believe the increase is a direct result of climate change prompting warming sea temperatures.

    ?My 1996 Collins Pocket Guide “Sea Shore” describes the (common) spider crab as “common off the W and SW coasts of Britain, also S North Sea, S to Mediterranean and Cape Verde Isles.”

    The great spider crab, meanwhile, ranges north to Spitzbergen and Iceland. So presumably an abundance of this species would be owing to climate change of another sort.

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  72. We don’t have Australian yellow brown grass here
    and there’ been dew Monday quite heavy dew, Tuesday dew, Wedneday dew
    The weeds got a headstart when the rain came after the last heatwave.
    The south facing lawn has yellow patches
    same for verges where dandelion are powering up.
    but the orchard grass which had been left half an inch long is still all green

    Difference is the daytime breezes are about half that of during the heatwave
    Next weeks rain i now predicted to start on Monday afternoon, so the prediction ha been getting earlier.

    Oh another thing is the weather forecast turning out quite wrong
    eg last Thursday right until the moment they said i would be cloudy and 21C
    but the un broke through early on and it was always like 25
    Right now the sun is strong, but the breeze is stronger than they said

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  73. What agendas is Everbrite’s email pushing
    #1 The ever present ” Black History Every Month: Events That Inspire Action, Education & Connection”

    #2 Online book presentation “The Sustainable City” second edition
    by Columbia Global Centers| Beijing 哥伦比亚大学全球中心|北京

    1 lead author and then 4 Chinese co-authors !
    Steven Cohen Director of the Earth Institute’s Research Program on Sustainability Policy and Management at Columbia University.

    so that is 2 out of the 11 items in the Everbrite email that are clear Guardianland

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  74. Don’t know if this is true but one of the more interesting factoids about the spider crabs is that they have come to shallower waters to shed their exoskeletons en-masse. Crabs on the margins of the crab concentrations retain their exoskeletons and protect their soft-shelled brethren in the centre.
    If this is true it is interesting to speculate just how this behaviour evolved, and do some well-minded crabs stay behind to guard the original peripheral guardian crabs once they have toughened up?

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  75. Snopes put out a Fact dated Aug 2nd about Weather Map colours

    I know that,
    cos Twitter forced a box marked “What’s Happening YESTERDAY”
    that is PR for a “Twitter Event”
    Yet that is a lie, the thing has nothing to do with yesterday
    When you are on the page the first story is marked July 28th
    The Snopes one is marked Aug 2nd (that’s their tweet date , July 29th is the date on the Snopes story)

    See my Twitter thread to get to the screenshots & links
    https://twitter.com/No2BS/status/1557356191432548354

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  76. Speaking of Emma Thompson, the Oscar-winning #badactor (and #crisisactor?), here’s some more news about shambolic solar power in Clyde River, the tiny settlement at 70’N on Baffin Island that Thompson visited six Augusts ago to celebrate the installation of a few Greenpeace-donated solar panels, panels that were repeatedly vandalized in the next couple of years and prolly no longer exist.

    Last year the local council tried to get new solar panels installed on the same building. It didn’t go well.

    https://clyderiver.ca/programs-initiatives/solar-panels

    Once the funding was approved and Contribution Agreement signed. Green Sun Rising Inc. in Windsor, Ontario shipped the panels to Clyde River, Nunavut by sealift and brought in employee to install the panels. For some reason, Hamlet [Council]’s Heavy Equipment Operator threw away the panels thinking boxes were ready to be thrown away. Billy and Brett at Green Sun Rising Inc. went to the dump site to look for panels but they were already taken.

    If we can’t find the panels, Municipality of Clyde River will need to purchase new panels at a cost of $20,000 and install them in April 2022 when the sun rises in the north again. The sun sets in November 2021 and will not rise again until January 2022.

    Ho hum. That’s Clyde River solar for you.

    I do hope that Dame Emma hadn’t booked a flight to celebrate the installation of the (cough!) accidentally dumped panels.

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  77. Alan, K, your thoughts would be appreciated:

    “Warning as heatwave could spark cliff falls on England’s south coast
    Public urged to take precautions after second large landslide along Jurassic region in two weeks”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/10/warning-heatwave-cliff-fall-england-south-coast

    “Experts are urging the public to be hypervigilant on south coast beaches as this week’s heatwave could trigger cliff collapses.

    One geologist said the area seemed the most vulnerable and beachgoers should take heed of official guidance.

    A collapse of Sidmouth cliff in Devon on Monday was the second large landslide along the Jurassic coast in two weeks.”

    Monday’s collapse didn’t occur in a heat wave, of course. However,

    “There had been “limited research” into thermal impact into landsliding but there was some evidence suggesting an association. The more clay-like components of sediments shrink through losing moisture during these hot, dry periods, while other rocks expand in the heat, Banks said.

    The south coast seemed more vulnerable, “which could be partly because of weak rocks and the covering of superficial deposits is not so thick”.

    “This week, at Sidmouth, we had a formation called the Sidmouth mudstone formation, a fairly fine-growing soil, or weak rock, which overlays sandstone, again quite weak,” she said.

    The cliff fall was led by processes from the top of the cliff. “That suggests the material at the top, this Sidmouth mudstone formation, is weathered, and its erosion is enabled perhaps as a consequence of some slight movement, maybe because of a change in moisture content,” she added.

    If the current heatwave was followed by intense, heavy rainfall, that could also weaken the cliffs, with potential for further rock falls, she said.

    The BGS is researching the impact of hot, dry weather on landslides in the context of climate change, she said. Most research had focused on heavy rainfall and flooding, which had a greater impact in terms of life and infrastructure.”

    Plausible, certainly. However, I wonder if funding has been made available for this research (that might not otherwise have been made available) by linking it to “climate change”?

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  78. I don’t have any real insights. I would have thought that excess water ingress would promote cliff falls rather than droughts . Certainly if clay rocks (not clays) are involved then these would have to be partially weathered before variations in water content would be responsible for changing susceptibility to collapse.

    So I have no special knowledge, and I suspect other people don’t either. It will be evident in many cases (but not all) that cliffs will be susceptible to collapse but predicting exactly when such falls might occur is, I suspect, a task beyond us.

    My recommendation would be never to venture beneath cliffs, unless immediately after a cliff fall. I have not followed this advice and many times have used my little geological hammer upon the cliffs provoking their anger and revenge.

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  79. 9:30am R4 last episode of The Climate Tipping Points
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00181m0
    “Justin Rowlatt discovers how global warming may trigger irreversible changes to our planet.
    But faced with disaster, could humanity itself be on the cusp of its own tipping point?”

    The thing is this 5 part series was on 6 weeks ago at lunchtime, so this is a very early repetition.

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  80. 4:30pm and 9pm R4 Sciency Show
    “Scientists studying changing polar temperatures find signs that our climate models might need adjusting”
    … I thought the science was settled ../sarc

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  81. 9:30pm GBnews is having a Climate debate
    one guest is shouty Orla Cocklan, and another alarmist Economist Laurie Laybourn vs non-Alarmist @AdrianHayes
    viewers have another opinion

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  82. Actually I missed the bit at the start when Adrian said he is a CC true believer
    citing “when I went to the Arctic the ice was 1m thick and it used to be 5m”
    That’s cherrypicking BS

    but at least he balanced in the other enviro issues

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  83. Oh the horror! Climate change causes Northern Mexico to cease beer production because of water shortages. Much was exported into the USA who will now suffer horrendously. Corona (formerly my favourite tipple) will become rare. What is next, tequila scarcities?

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  84. Mark,

    Excluding powering trains? What’s that about? It’s not as if the solar farm is physically connected to the grid specifically for Network Rail’s benefit. When the sun goes down in Norfolk the lights are not going to go out in the Newcastle depot.

    The whole idea of Network Rail getting its power from Norfolk is an accountancy contrivance and I would have thought a good accountant would have been able to get the trains “hooked up”.

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  85. @UniversityLeeds’s @PriestleyCentre tweeted
    “Not one, but TWO climate experts feature in the latest episode of Inside Science on @BBCRadio4
    – Dr Anna Hogg talks about Arctic warming (00:30)
    – Professor Dominick Spracklen reveals the role that woodland plays in cooling (21:02).”

    🎧 https://bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0019z2y

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  86. “Handcranked generator to be used by Network Rail”

    article says
    “power its railways stations, offices and depots
    EXCLUDING powering trains”

    so just 15% of its OFFICE buildings energy,
    A 50MW solar park generates say 5MW on average
    ie £200 worth an hour

    that’ £5,000/day ..£1.75m year ie £35m worth over 20 years
    Is that smaller that total build/running costs

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  87. American beer (= lager) does travel.
    “Corona is a brand of beer produced by Mexican brewery Cervecería Modelo and owned by Belgian company AB InBev. It is the top-selling brand of imported beer”

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  88. BBC IPlayer – Nova Jones
    Series 1: 1. Friends of Nova
    Pop sensation Nova learns the meaning of friendship from her dear pal… whatshisname? Eco-minded McLaren prevents environmental disaster as Nova’s unwanted gifts pollute a planet.

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  89. You know those climate activist athletes platformed by the BBC
    If any of them were British and they mock Climate Sceptics they could have their funding withdrawn
    ““Athletes may be ineligible for funding if they are derogatory about a person’s disability, gender, pregnancy or maternity, race, sexuality, marital status, **beliefs** or age.”
    Louis Smith was banned for two months after a leaked video showed him laughing as his friend shouted “Allahu akbar”
    and tht was seen as mocking Muslim beliefs
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50179aa8-1b1e-11ed-98b9-ae8775f5f43c?shareToken=6544e10589f95e373a86a2cf59c723ba

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  90. Richard Tice of TalkTV tweets
    @SkyNews @BBCNews will you have physicist and electrical engineer @catandman Brian Catt on to discuss the other side of climate debate?
    If not, what are you afraid of ?

    libmob angrily shout in the replies that Catt should be banned for not siding with their dogma

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  91. what’s a hashtag for tracking recycling centre fires ?
    I tried #RecyclingFire ..ah #WasteFire is used

    “Firefighters are continuing to tackle blazes which broke out at two recycling centres in Scunthorpe
    At its height late on Saturday, about 40 firefighters attended a blaze at the Northern Waste site in Park Farm Road.
    Meanwhile, fire also broke out at the Winterton Road recycling site on Sunday.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-62546931

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  92. A 10-year-old wooden bridge carrying a two-lane tarmaced road has collapsed in Norway. Global baking and the climate catastrophe have’t been blamed yet but I bet they will be tomorrow.

    Here’s Google’s Street View of the architect’s wet dream as it was in August 2018:

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@61.3125304,10.3010175,3a,75y,142.8h,77.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sl5WkyFICiNoG0kWdZhda2A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dl5WkyFICiNoG0kWdZhda2A%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D157.32947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

    Lovely! I bet it won some prizes.

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  93. Today’s Catastrophe porn was “ooh dry ground will flood rather than absorbed the rain
    look here’s an experiment from Dr Robert T ReadingUni”
    https://twitter.com/UniofReading/status/1557350976725581824
    Yeh 44,000 Likes and the thing is fake fake fake

    I know cos I actually tried to replicate it
    I tried it with clear empty mousse pot filled with water
    It behaved as he said it would
    However as soon as I used a knife to puncture the bottom
    that broke THE VACUUM
    and the water went into the soil straight away

    Alarmist didn’t like me challenging, yet they were unable to quote a flood example from today
    The main one put up his reply, then ran away by blocking me
    so preventing me calling out his reply

    There is a problem with Dr Roberts tweet too
    He says he’s talking about parched ground
    however he’s done that thing of leaping a step further
    He labelled his pic “grass after a heatwave ”
    Look parched grass is possible to find in the UK
    However in areas like mine last weeks heatwave didn’t cause parching
    There had been rain the week before it and we have morning mists with dew
    Yet we are in an areas the EA chose to proclaim a drought in

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  94. Tretten bridge crossing Gudbrandsdalslågen
    It follows a similar event in 2016 when the Perkolo Bridge collapsed, also a timber structure.

    Norwegian newspaper
    – I never in my wildest imagination thought it would happen again, says truck driver Arild Magne Båtberget. He broke his back when Perkolo bridge collapsed in 2016.
    On Monday Tretten bridge also collapsed.

    Norway has a total of nine bridges with the same construction as the glulam (Laminated Beam) bridge Perkolo bridge, which collapsed at Sjoa in February 2016. One of them is Tretten bridge.
    This means that 2 out of 9 bridges with that construction have now collapsed, within 7 years.
    Maybe good to inform about where the last seven are located…?

    What about the milk tower? an 18-storey building with glulam construction, can this collapse?

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  95. big headlines but little substance

    Cornwall floods
    – a cafe with 1cm of water
    – a roundabout flooded
    “He said the water came in (to the garage forecourt) suddenly as the rain started but then fully drained away about 10 minutes later and the sun came out.

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  96. I wonder if this “ground as dry as concrete” narrative might be even more misleading than I think
    .. like what’s it like 1 foot or 2 feet down ?

    It’s only the top that’s dry
    I could be wrong

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  97. Stew, I haven’t found people blaming the bridge collapse(s) on the climate catastrophe yet but it’s only a matter of time. As glulam has been puffed as a solution to global baking they might even say that if we don’t build more climate-collapsed bridges then we’re all going to die.

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  98. In parts of Scotland a week’s rainfall has fallen in just 24hrs.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62558667

    How desperate do you have to be to think this is newsworthy? Let’s take Perth, for example. At this time of year there are roughly 10 rainy days per month. Which means that a week’s worth of rain usually falls within a little more than two of its days. This time it only took one day. Whoopy bloody doo! Next they will be getting locals to proclaim that they haven’t seen puddles like this since the weekend.

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  99. I should also point out the language used. The rain did not fall — it hit. As in ‘Scotland was hit’. Is this an example of the BBC’s new style guide to reflect the severity of climate change? So now it is to be ‘heating’ rather than ‘warming’ and ‘rainhit’ rather than ‘rainfall’.

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  100. Jit,

    Yes, it’s probably a once in a fortnight event. Which makes it unprecedented by BBC logic.

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  101. Jordan Peterson in the Telegraph yesterday, as linked by Johnbillscott at Notalot:

    There is simply no pathway forward to the green and equitable utopia that necessitates the further impoverishment of the already poor, the compulsion of the working class, or the sacrifice of economic security and opportunity on the food, energy and housing front. There is simply no pathway forward to the global utopia you hypothetically value that is dependent on force. And even if there was, what gives you the right to enforce your demands? On other sovereign citizens, equal in value to you?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/15/peddlers-environmental-doom-have-shown-true-totalitarian-colours/

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  102. Mark
    Ed Milligan’s says “ This is not, as some would claim, the first net-zero crisis. It is just the latest fossil-fuel crisis. ”
    Would have thought the green blob would be very happy with high oil and gas prices. It should drive development of renewables without the need for subsidies. And if those hydrocarbon assets really become stranded as they hope, the prices will be even higher.

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  103. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62051070

    Worth a read to see how crazy things have become. An environmental media scholar explains how places like Sardinia and Majorca are environmentally friendly locations for filming because they force film crews to use sustainable practices. Yes, but how do they and all their kit get there from Hollywood or wherever?

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  104. What’s all this rubbish about thunderstorms and flooding? Here in deepest Norfolk we had perhaps 5minutes of near isolated raindrops (that didn’t totally wet my patio). Even Norwich (8 kilometres away) got at least one drenching. All we have are menacing black clouds that tantalise. It’s not fair, our lawns deserve better.

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  105. Might have known. By tempting the Rain Goddess at 10.19am I caused the heavens to open almost immediately and it’s still raining.

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  106. Iain Martin in The Times yesterday (paywalled). Having agreed that energy bailouts for ordinary bill-payers are needed …

    But amid the clamour there is a game of distraction and blame-dodging going on. The main parties, all of them, and every arm of the state have a shared interest in avoiding a proper accounting for what went wrong. They all designed and cheered on Britain’s too aggressive race to net zero. With voters angry as the bills land, no one wants to admit their culpability.

    Since the 2008 Climate Change Act, successive governments, urged on by the opposition — and the SNP and the Lib Dems — bet the house on getting to net zero quicker than anyone else. They gambled on Britain becoming a global leader in killing off carbon use and howled down anyone expressing concerns. And look where it has landed us.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/net-zero-groupthink-got-us-into-this-mess-2hps23d5d

    “Britain’s too aggressive race to net zero.” Hmm. It could be said more strongly than that. Like by Jit the other day. But the blame-dodging bit hits home.

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  107. Thanks Mark. Chilling indeed. A paragraph [his square brackets] (my bendy brackets):

    (Gina) McCarthy (National Climate Advisor) says denialism has moved on. ‘Now it’s not so much denying the problem [of climate change]’, she says; rather, it’s ‘seeding doubt about the costs associated with [green energy] and whether they work or not’. So we’ve gone from science denialism to… what? Political denialism? Policy denialism? Fossil-fuel companies are using ‘dark money’ to ‘fool’ the public about ‘the benefits of clean energy’, she says. And apparently, ‘seeding doubt’ about clean energy is ‘equally dangerous to [climate-change] denial’. Asked if such doubts pose a threat to public health, in that they might hamper officialdom’s plans to go green, McCarthy said: ‘Absolutely.’ The solution to such health-harming scepticism? ‘We need the tech companies to really jump in’, she said. That is, the social-media giants must do more to thwart the policy deniers.

    This next was a bit of an open goal:

    Welcome to the era of Gina McCarthyism

    Tee hee. But this is er, no laughing matter. Of course, it’s a policy that has been enforced on our BBC for some years now. One would imagine that it will come under increasing pressure and eventually crack. Dieter Helm was on R4 a few days ago and mentioned that renewables are intermittent. The presenter let it go. Progress of sorts, I thought.

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