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Continuing from the last comment on the previous thread. The first page in the series, from early May 2021, is here.
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Tosh, say I:
“Drought threatens UK government’s mass forestry scheme”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/21/drought-threatens-uk-mass-forestry-scheme-tree
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John Kerry is a problem.
You’ll have heard of the first tweeter. Glenn is a Maths friend from Pembroke, Cambridge. He’s only recently got into Twitter.
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This came out of me looking at the local bookfestival poster and immediately spotting deception
“fabulous storytelling by a *pantomime dame*”
.. Crap ! I’m expecting wokemob to be pushing dragqueen storytelling
The name they list for the dame “Mama G” sounds like one
And indeed turns out to be the most notorious.
So the organiser are deceiving by using “panto dame”
Intersectionality is central to libmob culture
hence they continually Virtue Signal to show they are not leaving out the favoured Victimhood groups and causes.
The libmob PUBLISHING industry makes sure it ticks the boxes
– book about Black victimhood
– about LGBTQ+ victimhood
– female victimhood
– trans
– climate change
If you go into the local bookshop you can spot the displays ticking those boxes
And then the book festival must draw from what artistes the publishers push, so on the poster I spot those boxes ticked
– drag queen
– “allyship” with the female Muslim author
– a Marxist historian
– Workshop “children are able to create their own endangered animal posters”
That sounds like Climate doom
– “A musical history of modern black Britain”
Then there appear to be another 40 items which don’t tick the box
However none of them challenge libmob dogma either.
Thus they are failing to reflect the true DIVERSITY of opinions
and just serving up libmob ones.
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The BBC is still in denial as to the main cause of Sri Lanka’s problems:
“Sri Lanka: Inflation rate jumps to 70.2% in August”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62990385
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“Plan to lift fracking ban with review of seismic level”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62990021
I very much take on board Alan’s comments here in the past, doubting the viability of fracking in the Bowland shales. However, I take the view that in a market economy, so long as the taxpayer doesn’t end up bailing them out, that’s a risk for the fracking companies to take on, so long as they don’t cause damage in the process. There is much wrong with the fracking debate:
1. Ed Miliband’s delusions regarding the cost (and reliability and utility) of renewables;
2. His failure to realise that gas prices in the US are significantly below those paid in Europe for a reason;
3. The fact that the fracking industry is currently subject to restrictions regarding tremors (not earthquakes, BBC!) at levels that would render wind farms unviable (the explosions at the euphemistically named “borrow pits” almost certainly exceed the levels at which fracking has to stop); and
4. The absurd situation where fracking might be allowed only if local communities consent, while renewables projects go ahead regularly in the teeth of bitter local opposition.
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Common sense, clearly expressed as always, by Dr John Constable:
“The Great European Energy Disaster”
https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/the-great-european-energy-disaster/
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Ever in the vanguard the Guardian prints an article from Chris Cornelius (geologist and founder of Cuadrilla) and a sidekick questioning the likelihood of the U.K. developing a successful fracked gas industry. This is highlighted on the Guardian’s front page no less, so happy are they with this contribution.
Cornelius and Linder argue that, although the shales in Lancashire are extremely gassy, the gas occurs in shales that are extensively broken up by faulting and each fault block behaves differently. Furthermore stressing the fault planes, by massively increasing the subsurface fluid pressure, causes them to move creating earthquakes [not tremors Mark] that are currently unacceptable.
Furthermore, the relatively high population density, together with all its associated infrastructure, make the target areas particularly hostile to drilling companies. Cornelius and Linder calculate that to supply only 10% of natural gas used in the U.K. with fracked gas will require thousands of wells, hundreds to be drilled each year. The chances of Lancastrians agreeing is non-existent.
The fact that Cornelius is associated with a company wishing to extract energy from deep seated, hot brines by drilling paired deep geothermal wells is mentioned.
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I didn’t draw attention to this before the Queen’s funeral.
But a nice demo of the normal hypocrisy in our capital city.
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Cornelius and Linder also want to convert our beautiful estuaries and lnlets in the West into energy producing tidal lagoons and to hell with their wildlife. Some people have no appreciation of natural wonder and can only see opportunities for a quick Thaler. Shame also on the Guardian for harbouring this nonsense.
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Scientists don’t seem so popular in the last 24 hours.
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Alan, I always defer to you on topics such as this. However, at what point does a tremor become a quake?
My point is that the fracking industry is subject to restrictions that don’t apply to other businesses in the energy industry, such as those developing wind farms.
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Mark. For me, and I suppose most geoscientists, tremors that originate deep within the Earth are earthquakes regardless of their magnitude. So a geoscientist will speak about so many low magnitude earthquakes affecting the U.K. every day. Some will be of such low magnitude that they may not even register on a normal seismograph. All are nevertheless earthquakes. A heavy truck passing by may cause the earth to shake (even noticeably), but these tremors did not originate within the earth. The problem comes in naming tremors that originate from earth processes like major rock falls (I would use ‘tremors’) or as a consequence of large surface explosions (tremors or earthquakes, dependent upon my mood and the proximity of the tremors felt and the causal explosion).
I have no objection to you using the word “tremor”, but I think you are wrong to ban the BBC from using the word “earthquake” because a geoscientist would regard such usage as proper.
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Alan,
Many thanks for the elucidation. Mea culpa!
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Reach PLC full page in their pullout in their local newspaper titles
“Eco warrior Eric Johnson the Hawaii born singer
… Micro plastics blah blah”
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“Fracking: Jacob Rees-Mogg faces Tory anger over plan to buy local support”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62993487
This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious. It’s ok for windfarm owners to “bribe” locals, but not fracking companies? Lots of MPs bleating about fracking being foisted on their constituents: are these the same voices who claimed onshore wind had been banned because it could no longer be foisted on (others’) constituents?
There is a “Have Your Say” at the bottom. A depressing read. If the comments are representative of the general level of intelligence in the UK, we deserve to freeze in the dark.
I resisted the temptation to add my own comment there:
Everyone who is opposed to fracking, please place a sign in your front window. This should read “Please disconnect me from the mains gas. Thank you.”
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“Nigeria battling floods ‘beyond control’ as warning given of dams overflowing
Floods have affected half a million people, including 100,000 displaced, Nigeria’s National Emergency Management Agency says”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/19/nigeria-battling-worst-floods-in-a-decade-with-more-than-300-people-killed-in-2022
The ending to this article is extraordinary. All the way through, even the Guardian admits that there are many factors causing these floods, e.g.:
Yet still the article ends:
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Alan;
Thanks for explaining the earthquake terminology. I used to think that it was a question of scale where tremors covered minor occurrences and eathquakes the larger ones: like breezes and gales. I do think that it is better to use “tremors”. even though it’s incorrect, because it is far less alarming to the layman.
Wrt to shale gas potential in the UK, I’m with Mark. If companies are prepared to spend their own money finding out what is really there and whether it’s recoverable, we should let them.
The article you summarised made a couple of other points which, imho, don’t stand up:
“Furthermore, the relatively high population density, together with all its associated infrastructure, make the target areas particularly hostile to drilling companies.”
I have a presentation on shale drilling in Dallas/Fort Worth which includes this statement:
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The population of Fort Worth is about 1 million and it covers an area of approx 900 sq km. In comparison Lancashire’s figures are approx 5 million in 3500 sq km so only about 20% more people per sq km.
There are advantages to the “associated infrastructure”: it is easy to provide power, water and waste disposal and to transport the gas away. I used to work with the water industry: they would have no problem meeting the needs of a shale pad. That means far fewer truck movements which are often cited as one of the objections.
“Cornelius and Linder calculate that to supply only 10% of natural gas used in the U.K. with fracked gas will require thousands of wells, hundreds to be drilled each year.”
This conjures up images of the countryside being festooned with drilling rigs (like a windfarm!) as in the old days of single wells in conventional plays. It is now possible to drill 40 wells from one pad which can cover a large area with lateral drilling so pads are much further apart. So it would only require 10 – 15 pads per year to provide 400 – 600 new wells.
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For some reason the quote about Fort Worth was cut. Here it is:
“As of June 1, 2012, 18,298 Barnett Shale natural gas wells have been drilled
– 1,681 producing wells are in the City of Fort Worth
– Many more wells are within the city limits of other municipalities in the Barnett Shale”
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Unless I missed it, this open piece from Wall Street Journal by Steven Koonin on 19 September seems to have been overlooked here on Cliscep:
“Don’t Believe the Hype About Antarctica’s Melting Glaciers”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dont-believe-the-hype-about-antarcticas-melting-glaciers-ice-sheet-climate-change-global-warming-sea-levels-greenland-iceberg-ocean-11663618509?st=67tlt2ys0a728mm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
Beyond the detail of the modelling and field observations, the main point is to demonstrate that mainstream media representations missed nuance and went for a discursive attractor state of unjustified exaggeration and alarmist language.
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“Op-ed piece”, not “open piece”. My clever tablet at work quietly correcting me again.
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Mike. I used to live between Fort Worth and Dallas (a place called Double Oak, although no one could keep one alive). Like much of the outer parts of these two cities building lots were huge. You could easily get several drilling pads on it. So the statistics of drilling densities in Fort Worth do not compare with those of Lancashire with its relatively huddled villages and narrow roads.
Another difference is the familiarity of US populations to oil and gas installations. In many places in California you see nodding donkeys throughout a town -even in peoples’ backyards.
A further difference is that commonly rights to the subsurface are not owned by the person who has the surface rights. This means that unlike the U.K. the owner of the subsurface rights can exploit it for resources so long as the surface rights owner is paid for disturbances caused. Commonly surface rights owners welcome petroleum drilling on their land.
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Alan, my turn to correct you regarding an area I do know something about! In the UK (certainly in England and Wales, which is the law I am familiar with) it is common for rights to the subsurface to be owned/retained by third parties. In addition, wealthy landowners, particularly (but certainly not exclusively) in Lancashire, developed towns and housing by selling land off on 999 year leases, with many rights (notably to the sub-soil) retained by them as landlords. At the time, coal was what they usually had in mind to exploit, but the drafting of such rights might well readily extend to facilitate fracking.
They usually reserved payment of an annual rent to themselves as landlords, but in those days they weren’t too familiar with the concept of inflation, and while modern leases provide for regular upwards reviews of rents, most of those 18th & 19th century leases contain no such provisions, so that the rents payable are in real money terms next to nothing at 2st century monetary values. It’s the rights to get at what’s below that are now potentially valuable.
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The state of the criminal justice system in the UK is a disgrace. The Guardian should be railing against that, not singling out favoured protestors for publicity:
“UK climate activists held in jail for up to six months before trial
Campaigners say protesters arrested for blocking roads getting ‘lost in prison system’ while on remand”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/23/uk-climate-activists-held-in-jail-for-up-to-six-months-before-trial
Read on:
People like these are contributing to the problems faced by the criminal justice system, so it’s a bit rich for them to be complaining about it.
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Mark. Well you learn something new every day. You have also destroyed a long cherished fantasy I had from my childhood. I used to believe that my parents owned their house in east London together with a solid narrow prism of rock and magma extending downward to the centre of the earth. Early dreams shattered.
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Alan, they may have done – but equally, they might not.
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Worth a read?
“The revenge of the material economy
The future belongs to manufacturers, energy suppliers and farmers.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/09/23/the-revenge-of-the-material-economy/
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Alan; were you in Fort Worth/Dallas when shale was up and running? Unfortunately I can’t find the presentation I referenced (I have it as a PDF); it includes some pics which confirm your point – shale pads on lots between commercial properties, for example. It also shows completed pads which are inconspicuous once the rig has gone.
Clearly Americans are far more accepting of oil and gas development, helped, no doubt, by the financial incentives you mentioned. Given our history of coal-mining, steelworks, etc, it seems strange that there is resistance to an industry which could provide employment and local financial benefits. I suspect that many of the objectors may not be local, as we saw at Balcombe.
I’ve just spotted a mistake in my population comparison. The figure I used for Lancashire was old info – it included Manchester, Salford and Liverpool. As the county is now defined, the population is a little over 1 million so the density is markedly less than Fw/D. There’s plenty of open space and the wind industry has demeonstrated that narrow roads are no obstacle to bringing in large equipment.
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Forgot to include the point that there were “4000 holes in Blackburn, Lancashire” so who’d notice a few more?!
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Someone has created a climate PR event
I spot them trying to rope in our local BBC
.. https://www.twitter.com/RobNicholas17/status/1572615651755282434
BBC Leicester have already promoted them https://www.twitter.com/carboncopy_eco/status/1572650403648372738
oh signing schools up
.. They claim to have 375,000 pupils signed up
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Mike I have only seen one fracked shale gas well in the flesh as it were, but that took up a very large area much larger than the pad. The pad was surrounded by around 18 large tankers of various descriptions carrying drilling mud, water, propant, various chemicals and presumably empty tankers to receive back flowing well fluids.
If Lancashire wells require a similar number of tankers, narrow roads would not be able to accommodate them. Several years ago papers were full of complaints about damage in Lancashire to walls especially at corners.
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@itvCalendar ITV local NewsPR
“coming up we meet the teenage Climate Campaigners”
intro “next the URGENT Climate Crisis”
… super loaded words
“150 people attended Youth Strike for Climate Sheffield”
that’s tiny in 600K population
Probably ADULT PR people exploiting children
#PRtrickery to emotionally blackmail people
& shield their fakegreen dogma from proper questioning
kids behaviour is cultlike
but is free speech
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BBC local NewsPR opens with
“Coming to a field near you ..FEARS”
“The F word is back …fracking”
“chemicals are injected”
“In Blackpool there were 186 earth tremors”
.. * Good they didn’t use the misleading word “Earthquake”
featured Richard Howarth giving hyperbole against
Enviro Presenter “It’s not a quick fix, could take many years”
This shows to me that the BBC are right in with the activists
by opening the news with their PR
#1 The item did mention there have never been any plans to frack in our area
#2 As well as one anti-fracking tweet they did read a pro tweet..same for the vox pop
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under reported story
The plug is being pulled on UK’s first urban wind farm in Hull
It was billed as the UK’s first urban wind farm.
But bright hopes of it spearheading an energy revolution a decade ago have faded. Instead, some of the distinctive turbines adjacent to the main railway line and A63 in and out of Hull are set to be dismantled later this week.
Businessman Andrew Fenton, who provided the land in Priory Park next to his commercial design studio for the development, puts their failure down to the government’s decision in 2015 to scrap subsidies and ban planning permission for new onshore wind projects. At the time, the then prime minister David Cameron claimed the public was “fed up” with onshore wind farms.
.. Quiet Revolution, the company which installed the first two turbines at the site in Priory Park Within a year of the government’s decision, it went into liquidation
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/plug-being-pulled-uks-first-7582476
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The host then tweeted a request for your views
the antifracking minority
piled in to intimidate
.. https://www.twitter.com/peter_levy/status/1573344239173439488
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What I don’t get is, if the world will become an oven in the next few years (urgent!!!) and we’re all gonna die, why not use nuclear power (now!!!). Saying yeah, nah, we’re going to only shop at the renewables boutique for our survival doesn’t really seem all that … urgent!!!
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The Whitby Potash mine
They want to convert a Whitby caravan park into a village to house 400 shift workers.
Is it really news that 25 people have objected ?
The BBC have a story.
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Rachel Cunliffe. Senior Associate Editor @NewStatesman.
Devout classicist, “indulgent editrix
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stewgreen, regarding Rachel Cunliffe, you forget to include from her Twitter handle: “at one point the only Ancient Greek teacher in South Korea”. Is that boasting? Whatever it is, it doesn’t demonstrate “green” credentials. These people travel the world while lecturing the rest of us about the need to be “green”.
As for claiming that wind turbines might, at worst, spoil a view, what remarkable ignorance as to the environmental and ecological damage involved in their construction and operation. As is the idea (from the thread, if you follow it) that this is the thing “we” are good at (most of them are built and owned by foreigners). She pushes wind turbines in the name of energy security and cost, while failing to understand that their intermittency and unreliability destabilise the grid and add to costs (that are never counted against them) and damage energy security. As for their popularity, well they’re not popular with the people who have to live near them.
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I thought populism was unpopular in polite circles. As to being cheaper, that is a difficult sum to calculate because they are very different things. Quicker to build? Maybe. I would rather live close to fracking than wind turbines. There are potential issues with shadow flicker and infrasound for anyone close to wind turbines. There is direct killing and displacement of yet more birds. But the killer is that the wind turbines won’t help when it isn’t windy, but they will further distort the grid because of their privileged access to the market.
Ian: 10 years ago our government rejected nuclear, on the basis that any nuclear projects would take ten years to come to fruition. It worked out well for us, as you can see.
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Mark, you beat me to it.
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Jit:
“Ian: 10 years ago our government rejected nuclear, on the basis that any nuclear projects would take ten years to come to fruition.”
That was part of the argument, there was also the cost. I’ve recently seen the suggestion that 60% of the cost of the Sizewell “C” power station is due to financing charges. This suggests that the present system of financial capitalism that we are lumbered with is not at all suitable for long-term, ie intergenerational, projects.
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Misleading and naive tweet from the actual journo
Fracking WAS banned
Onshore wind has never been banned
.. merely subsidies were dropped a bit.
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Mark I deliberately shorted her bio
We all fly. Lifestyle as a child doesn’t count.
As I tweeted her first tweet is probably projection.
She accuses Tories of supporting fracking merely cos lefties oppose it.
She hates Tories, looks to be opposite to them,
so a significant driver in her strong anti-fracking stance is that some Tories support fracking
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Checking local events
Lloyds and National Lottery fund this
Barton Great Big Green Week is a community festival hosted by Slow Circular Earth UK.
Raising awareness for climate change in Barton-Upon-Humber and surrounding villages.
The Barton Great Big Green Week, organised by members of our community, will be running from the 24th September to 2nd October 2022.
The Green Week will be a celebration of everything people in Barton are doing to improve our local environment and tackle climate change, as well as a call for our government to do more”
That last bit is POLITICAL
https://www.slowcircularearth.co.uk/join-us/barton-great-big-green-week
Oh they can’t even get their dates right
Strangely they seem to have started on 22nd with a Attenborough film
Then Friday, the Seaspiracy film
They say their Facebook page lists all events, but it doesn’t
There are also Wild Eco Weekend Retreat
and workshops at St Mary’s Church Hall : Eco Craft Day, Zero Waste Cafe etc
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Stew, thanks for the constant updates about all this stuff. The barrage of propaganda is relentless. It feels a bit like the way it must have done in the Middle Ages, when the church insinuated its way into all aspects of life, and every day was a saint’s day.
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New correctMessages are imposed over Facebook posts
“See how the average temperature in your area is changing.
Explore Climate Science Info”
em At dusk yesterday
I had to wear a coat and balaclava to cycle to the next village.
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Stew, speak for yourself! I haven’t flown anywhere for years, but even if I had, the difference is that I don’t lecture people about climate change while having a high emissions lifestyle.
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We resorted to lighting the log burner the day before yesterday.
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Mark I used to have a life
Just switched on the radio or TV and listened
no need to write corrections
Now as you say green/intersectional propaganda is relentless
And since I generally only write about what has been shoved into my face*, I’m only catching the tip of the iceberg.
* After that I may look at the progs Twitter threads and that opens up Russian dolls of more issues.
But it’s not like I immerse myself in the world of activists and read their comments by the hour.
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Heads will roll at Guardian headquarters. The Guardian university Guide (2023) in its subject listings utterly fails to give a list for climatology or even for environmental science. On the other hand if you want to go on the telly as a forensic scientist, fill your boots and go to Kent. Or slightly change focus and take up criminology and head for Loughborough.
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Mark I haven’t flown since the day after the Brexit vote, when I flew in from Malaysia.
Nor had I been in any mechanised transport since Covid, cos hitching and bicycle are my main transport, I had not been more than 12 miles from the village.
There is a recent exception someone needs help 17 miles away so I’ve been there 5 times
4 of those times I took a bus for the last 11 miles.
Then last week I hitched the 85 miles to Leicester for the science festival and back.
And I’m an anti Green.
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Big Green Week must be a national thing
cos next Saturday there are two regional events
#1 Caistor town hall has a Community Eco Fair
Repair Cafe, Clothes Swap, bring your container food stall
#2 “As part of the #Great Big Green Week, Hull Friends of the Earth, Rooted, CycHull, and Rights Community Action are hosting a social ”
Neither of those events push Climate Change in the PR
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“Hurricane Fiona: Canada braces for ‘historic, extreme event'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63011195
Maybe, maybe not. They’re doing their best to big it up, though in fairness I don’t see the words “climate change” in the article. Which is just as well, since even a cursory perusal of Wikipedia would reveal that while this hurricane might be severe and unusual, it certainly isn’t historic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canada_hurricanes
E.g. (just by way of many examples):
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“Vanuatu makes bold call for global treaty to phase out fossil fuels
President of Pacific island nation urges countries to join bid for nonproliferation treaty at UN general assembly”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/24/vanuatu-makes-bold-call-for-global-treaty-to-phase-out-fossil-fuels
.
Hmm. Here are my notes which I made on its NDC submitted pursuant to the Paris Climate AGreement:
I posted those observations on a discussion thread at Bishop Hill at the time, and it prompted this comment:
The Guardian normally isn’t too keen on tax havens. I guess it’s not worthy of comment, however, if they’re “leading the way” with climate change demands.
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“The Left Needs to Drop its “Bourgeois Environmentalism” and Back Fracking and Nuclear, Says Union Leader” (Gary Smith)
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/24/the-left-needs-to-drop-its-bourgeois-environmentalism-and-back-fracking-and-nuclear-says-union-leader/
I may have missed it, but I don’t recall seeing any mention of this on the websites of either the BBC or the Guardian.
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original source https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-trouble-with-bourgeois-environmentalism
So gas workers union boss doesn’t believe his members should move to solar/wind jobs
Labour’s magazine carries the story https://mobile.twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/1573640144049131520
Labour’s hard left snarls https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1573334198450262017
One mad lefty who thinks Putin funds the Tories moaned in Dec 2021about Gary Smith supporting fracking .. https://mobile.twitter.com/goldcat63/status/1467130660573822978
The Guardian and MSM did cover Gary Smith when he said Bankers Bonus limits shouldn’t be scrapped
but strangely they don’t cover his fracking renarks
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Climate Scepticism vs Bourgeois Environmentalism.
I can live with that. Welcome to the team, Gary.
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The Guardians own fund is held offshore
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They’re still calling it Hurricane Fiona in the headlines about Canada:
“Hurricane Fiona: Canada hit by ‘historic, extreme event'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63011195
And I suppose it was a hurricane when it set off on its journey northwards. However:
So, very unpleasant indeed, but not so historic after all. Where are the fact checkers and climate disinformation people when you need them?
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It doesn’t matter who you are, nobody is exempt from bowing down before the Climate Gods:
“Head of World Bank under pressure after White House condemns his ‘climate denial’ comments
David Malpass apologises after saying he ‘doesn’t know’ if he accepts climate science”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/25/head-of-world-bank-under-pressure-after-white-house-condemns-his-climate-denial-comments
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More propaganda, filled with emotion and opinion rather than facts:
“Frozen Planet: Filming climate change in action on an Arctic glacier”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-62925833
If the BBC is going to push these claims, I think the least it can do is provide some authoritative back-up.
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“Heatwave kills 12,000 trees planted in Gloucester”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-63012933
Actually, while the heatwave will undoubtedly have been a factor, it sounds as though an incompetent and wasteful Council did the rest. With a proper plan, rather than just a bit of ill-thought-through virtue-signalling, there was no need for the trees to die:
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Calving is natural thing that has always happened in Argentina people travel 300Km off the main North South highway to go to Pedro Moreno to hear the huge blocks crash down
that’s always happened
I didn’t bother, cos Ive been on various other glaciers
2 in Chile, One in Tierra del Fuego, 2 in NZ
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GBnews expert just said there is a huge reserve of shale gas in Eastern Ukraine
and fossil methane in the Black Sea off the coast of Ukraine
And Putin is trying to get his hands on it.
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Mark, many if not most newly-planted trees die in their first year. The contractors get paid by how many trees they plant, not how many of said trees are still alive in 5 years. New road schemes are a particular bugbear of mine: first, there is no need to plant trees alongside new road schemes because grassland is good. Second, most of the trees die anyway, so the public has been charged for a poor service it didn’t need.
Don’t get me started on the large trees that are planted as part of new developments, which also have a high casualty rate.
Tree protection measures in new developments frequently fail completely. A while ago there was a development near here that had a mature lime in the middle, which was supposedly protected. Soil clearance within the root zone was to be done by men with spades to protect the tree. Walking past one day I happened to see that the roots had been sheared off about 1m from the tree all around, clearly by a mechanical digger. I dutifully complained, only to be told that the presence of asbestos had meant it was too dangerous to move the soil by hand. The tree died of course, and the only penalty for the developer was the cost of a new sapling.
Pay contractors by whether their tree is still alive 5 years after planting, and you will have a far higher success rate than the current “plant, get paid and run” paradigm.
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BBC are basically a GreenDream PR agency
@MishaGlenny Rector of the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna
tweets
However the series itself seems less fawning
Ep2 “Reducing CO2 emissions requires critical raw materials like lithium, cobalt and nickel but mining and processing them can pose a serious threat to the environment.
Can we solve the paradox?”
Ep4 “The EU’s dependency on China”
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On a tour of Leicester the other day the guide pointed out two large trees obscuring the front of an important historic building
And said it was problematic result of The Plant a Tree for 95 scheme which he had been involved with.
but had grown out of control
..so problems today all over the city.
May have been “plant a tree in 73” scheme
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Ep5 ” how Russia’s interest in Ukraine might be partially motivated by its huge mineral deposits”
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There’s also a 4 part 11am Friday series
by Matt Winning, Environmental researcher @UCL_ISR & climate change comedian
(misleading Twitter bio cos he’s researching Environmental Economics)
“In this series, comedian and environmental economist Matt Winning looks at the ways in which unique aspects of British culture have shaped how we generate carbon, how we’ve managed to reduce emissions, and the challenges we now face to eliminate them completely.
Travelling around Britain – from terraced houses to the tiniest of crofts, and from golf courses to cement factories – Matt reveals how our energy consumption is bound up with who we are”
They’ve done 2 episodes already but each progs blurb is the same
as if they don’t care about detail.
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Last week they used this bold claim
.. https://www.twitter.com/mattwinning/status/1573306126300753921
“Cars and vans are responsible for 10,000 early deaths each year in the UK. *
Every car in London sets the NHS back about £8,000 in health costs.”
That tracks back to 2018 newspaper article
which is NOT available any more
archived https://web.archive.org/web/20220818014451/http://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/cars-air-pollution-cost-nhs-vans-vehicles-health-bills-lung-disease-a8384806.html
* Early deaths is a crap metric
We all die early, depends by how many days/years
“according to a new report by researchers at the universities of Oxford and Bath
The report was released ahead of Clean Air Day on 21 June, an event launched by the environmental charity Global Action Plan to raise awareness of air pollution and the harm it causes.”
So that’s PR not science
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I’ve opened the 2018 PDF press release the claims are taken from
“Dr Christian Brand, Associate Professor, University of Oxford and UK Energy Research Centre, said:
“Cars and vans are responsible for 10,000 early deaths each
year,
and diesel vehicles are the main problem unfortunately.”
(BTW 40,000 equivalent deaths/year claim is different
cos its deaths from ALL pollution)
Dr Alistair Hunt, Lecturer in Environmental Economics, University of Bath said:
“Our research for the first time illustrates the individual cost that each car and van has on the NHS and wider society.
Every time these vehicles are driven, they are having a significant impact on our health, equivalent to *£7,714* for an average
inner London car over its lifetime.”
The PDF also has a claim that cars and vans costs London NHS and society £650m/ year
How’s that reconcile
If we say 10 million vehicles that £65 per year per vehicle
or £130 if 5 million vehicles
How do we get from £1,300 for 10 years
to a £7,714 life time cost ?
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This is an old story, but it doesn’t stop Justin Rowlatt re-hashing it:
“Google ‘airbrushes’ out emissions from flying, BBC reveals
By Justin Rowlatt
Climate editor”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62664981
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“Autumn has arrived in the UK – but the season is not like it used to be”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/25/autumn-uk-milder-season-flora-fauna
Well, East Anglia (the setting for this article) is not the north of England, but it’s already very cold here. The forecast for the tops in the Yorkshire Dales today was for the wind chill factor to make it feel like -5C, and although I suspect that turned out to be an exaggeration, it was certainly very cold. I have already seen (and heard) many skeins of geese heading south. It must be cold wherever they go in the summer, because they’ve given up on it already. And the swallows, swifts and martins have already headed south (recently, admittedly, but that’s no later than normal).
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So then you get a listener activist org tweeting
a mad thing that Each London car costs the NHS £8K *per year*
Their bio “The Coalition for Healthy Streets and Active Travel (CoHSAT) is a group of voluntary and campaigning organisations working across Oxfordshire to create attractive, accessible and people-friendly streets”
Their idiot heard the presenter rush through claims
“10,000 early deaths per year”
“Every car in London sets the NHS back about £8,000”
and thought the second claim was also “per year”
The activist world, is so not based in reality
none of his followers have pointed out the basic error
Indeed 4 retweeted so they believe it’s true !
They include
– A Clinical pharmacist for critical care, theatres & anaesthetics. Views own.
– Dr Elise 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 @elise_oxford
Scientist 👩🏼🔬 PhD. Pro sustainable 🌍 future.
.. https://twitter.com/CoHSATOxon/status/1574318659949953024
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Monday 9:07pm BBC Radio Humberside was carrying an apparently weekly eco activist show Eco Time
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cyw7yf
GBnews show panels have to have crazy-lefties on
in order to comply with Ofcom balance Rules
I bet this BBC radio show
and the Climate Change channel on 79 EarthX TV
don’t bother with balance and Ofcom leave them alone
“Next week Green Influencers, FoE Events, The Humberline eco-summit”
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8pm Monday
& 11am Tuesday R4 show about Tory Lobby groups based at 55 Tufton St
like the Taxpayers Alliance
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001c65m
If course Labour has such lobby group buildings itself
Eg The Climate PR group Carbon Brief is based in a building jam packed with other Global Warming lobby groups
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The BBC is at it again:
“More than half of the world’s palm trees in danger”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63038597
This article can be found on the BBC website at both the “Science & Environment” and “Climate Change” sections of the website, though it is tagged “climate change”. Yet nowhere in the article or in the abstract of the study:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01858-0
(the rest is paywalled) do we find any suggestion that the threat is because of climate change. In fact, nowhere is the reason for the threat explained, but presumably it’s because of ongoing human activity in encroaching on forests.
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Watch Miliband claiming that “wind and solar are “nine times cheaper” than gas. So far as I can tell, the “9 times cheaper” came from a piece of Carbon Brief propaganda (reproduced in the Guardian, naturally), based on the fact that at the height of the gas price rise (of course, prices have come down since then, but nobody bothers to talk about that) the price (which of course won’t be implemented) in the latest CfD round (£48 per MwH) was 1/9 the price of gas.
The propaganda could, just about, be justified, because for a very brief moment in time there was a figure for onshore wind (albeit one that isn’t in use) that was 1/9 the price of gas. And that was it. If was one less than generous, one might call the claim a lie. And now the claim has been extended, without any justification at all of which I am aware, to solar power. In fact the “9 times cheaper” mantra suddenly seems to be everywhere. Where are the BBC fact checkers when you need them? I would bet a lot of money on the BBC Climate Disinformation and Reality Check teams going nowhere near correcting this piece of distortion.
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RadioHumberside presenter keeps banging on
“We are talking about a poll that says three quarters of people would welcome ONSHORE wind if it will bring down their bills”
– They made it their #2 newsPR item
– They play a clip of the ex Labour MP Lelanie Onn sho is head of the windfarm PR body RenewableUK
now Sarah Sanderson reporter speaks to windfarm man John of Res Energy in Ruthz East Yorkshire
.. PR people rig polls
Is the poll new ?
Nope I see no evidence that there is a new poll
It must be the same one BBC Shukman was pushing on Sept 7th
even then the poll was taken in May I think
.. https://www.twitter.com/DavidShukman/status/1567609097289175043
Same one quoted in July .. https://mobile.twitter.com/ECIU_UK/status/1553385534801731584
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Brigg Power Station to become Centrica battery storage plant: https://business-live.co.uk/economic-development/brigg-power-station-become-centrica-25111022 #netzero
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Of course I don’t listen to BBC Costing The Earth
cos it’s just a prog where PRtricksters preach to the Green Cult
Today’s episode
“Tom Heap is joined by an expert panel to discuss how our energy market can be reshaped to produce smaller bills in a low carbon future”
“In the UK, more than half our electricity is generated without using fossil fuels.
Despite that, the rocketing price of gas has lead to matching increases in our electricity bills.
Why the disconnect?
What could we be doing differently so that consumers
benefit from cheap renewable power? (FFS renewable is NOT cheap)
And what will the current crisis mean for our long term aims of reducing our use of fossil fuels?
Glenn Rickson – Head of European Power Analysts with S&P Global Commodity Insights
Emma Pinchbeck – CEO of Energy UK, the trade body for the British energy industry
Michael Grubb – Professor of Energy and Climate Change at UCL
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That was a balanced panel, then!
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“Climate campaigner ejected from Labour event sponsored by Drax power plant firm
Activists interrupt party conference debate to criticise company’s wood-burning biomass operations”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/27/climate-campaigner-ejected-from-labour-event-sponsored-by-drax-power-plant-firm
Fair questions. I wonder if Sir Keir has any answers? Doesn’t sit too comfortably with this week’s big policy announcements, does it?
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WTF? Liz Truss is now our PM.
Time to move abroad. Ukraine looks a bit comfier at the mo, no?
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“Germany delays exit from nuclear power to offset energy shortfall
Two nuclear plants’ lives extended as country copes with loss of Russian gas and shortage of French electricity”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/27/germany-delays-exit-from-nuclear-power-to-offset-energy-shortfall
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One of the problems with “green” schemes:
“Our bid for more solar panels was left out in the cold
We paid a deposit for solar panels with Green Energy Together but all we’ve got is scaffolding”
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/sep/28/our-bid-for-more-solar-panels-was-left-out-in-the-cold
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What’s the IMF’s record on giving the UK correct warnings ?
Did it warn the UK about RUSHING into mad green policies
that left the UK with depleted gas storage & extraction
that now caused a crisis when IMPORTED gas prices went ballistic ?
The IMF actually promotes to countries that they should adopt “green growth” plans
when in fact those plans will
– cost countries £trillions
– cause their energy prices to rise
– cause their domestic energy to be unresilient to spurts in world gas prices
(as been proven to happen
ie the US fracked and had more resilience.
cos they had gas on their doorstep and could export surplus at high prices.
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Well worth a read, IMO:
https://www.current-news.co.uk/news/cost-of-winter-contingency-coal-units-could-hit-395-million-clarifies-national-grid-eso
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just back from a low carbon hol to Cyprus & picked a free FT paper on the way.
it has this full page spread –
“2021 has already been declared the hottest year on record.
but it may also be the world’s best – or last – chance to take action against climate change.
join #WorldNewsDay on Sept 28 to see what you. the audience, and journalists in more than 300 newsrooms around the world are doing about it”
had a quick look at – https://worldnewsday.org/
“World News Day’s organizers, The Canadian Journalism Foundation (CJF) and WAN- IFRA’s World Editors Forum (WEF), expect more than 500 news organizations to use World News Day as a platform to demonstrate the value of fact-based journalism.
Join news outlets from around the world in meaningful global conversations on how journalism makes a difference.”
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dfhunter,
I don’t who made that declaration about 2021, as claimed by the FT, but the FT ought to be ashamed of itself for disseminating fake news. Here’s what NOAA has to say about 2021:
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202113
Broken down into a little more detail:
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“Australia’s most-polluting coal plant to shut decade earlier than planned”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-63070475
Have they not noticed what’s going on with regard to the worldwide energy crisis? And doesn’t Australia have a lot of coal that could help with that?
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I admire the record of Quakers in history, for example in their determined public opposition to slavery long before many ‘establishment Christians’ (oxymoron warning) saw the light. This more recent stuff is far less creditable.
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Times half page adverorial by Govt Export Finance
for green electric quadbikes
article : 2017 Northwest passage sailing yacht pioneer
cheated court hears in France.
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“Capercaillie at real risk of extinction, survey finds”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-63081210
This is very bad news. And what are those factors? Well, not climate change, not as we know it:
I wonder what could possibly be intruding on its habitat? Wind farms, anyone?
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“Police rescue passengers from powerless electric ferry”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-rescue-passengers-from-powerless-electric-ferry/RXSGH2DBEGLH33XSPDKFXQZ2YU/
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Back to the capercaillie. Naturally the Guardian does try to get in a little bit of climate change blaming:
“Emergency plan to save the capercaillie bird launched as numbers plummet
Cairngorms national park drawing up plans as RSPB says latest survey shows population at critical level of 540”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/30/emergency-plan-to-save-the-capercaillie-bird-launched-as-numbers-plummet
Thought by whom – other than Guardian journalists – isn’t mentioned. Perhaps they should do a bit of research about wind turbines:
“Wind energy facilities affect resource selection of capercaillie Tetrao urogallus”
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348778835_Wind_energy_facilities_affect_resource_selection_of_capercaillie_Tetrao_urogallus
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“Don Lemon Brain Explodes After Scientist REJECTS Climate Change As Cause For Hurricane”
.. the first 2 minutes is the meat ..then it’s American burbling
CNN presenter who had a scientist on to explain about the Florida hurricane
and when he refused to pin individual weather events on GW
the presenter tried to steamroller him with his own anecdotal evidence
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warmest in Canada ?
ie cherrypicked location
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“Fracking can only be allowed if 50% of locals agree – Fylde MP”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-63087782
That’s fine, so long as apply the same principles to “renewable” developments such as wind and solar “farms”. Why is nobody bothered about how the locals feel with regard to those?
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BBC news today were keen to show the BBC Local Radio stations “unbiased” interviews with Liz Truss.
one BBC Radio knob asked her something like “do you know where Preston New Road site is, have you ever been there ?”
what an asinine question, but to be expected from the BEEBoids who covered the anti fracking protests at the site almost with glee.
as for Mark Menzies statement – “How do you define ‘local’? How do you measure local consent?”
if he really said that, is this guy thick !!!
as reported at the time a lot of the protesters at Preston site lived elsewhere in England & travelled to the site, so are not locals.
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If this is the future, I don’t fancy it:
“Cost of living: Off-gridders are one step ahead in energy crisis”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63059505
I don’t know about you, but I aspire to more from life than living in a converted horse truck.
So not off-grid at all, then.
The first couple live at
Or do they live there? It’s available to rent as a holiday cottage:
https://lackancottage.co.uk/cottages-in-northern-ireland/
I loved this bit from their holiday let website:
BBC – where are your fact-checkers?!!!
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Today’s Sunday Times’ headline is that Liz Truss’ advice to the King was not to attend upcoming climate summit meeting. On her present form, perhaps he should go.
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On Friday a medical school dropout poured shit all over a memorial to Captain Tom as a protest against private jets.* Why?**
All clear now?
Probably not.
A simpler explanation: Maddie’s protest group, Stop UK Private Jets, is an offshoot*** of Hallam’s moronic Just Stop Oil group.
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*https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/protestor-pours-human-waste-over-7651673
**https://mobile.twitter.com/EndUKPrivateJet/status/1575872962351202304
***Offshootitselfinthefoot?
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I’m not sure the Guardian thought it through before releasing all this information:
“The climate crisis? We’ve been investigating it for more than 100 years
Climate warnings have been around for decades. Guardian reporting on the issue dates back as far as 1890”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/02/climate-crisis-guardian-investigating-pledge-decades-1890
Hmm.
And:
Blimey, I knew the propaganda was relentless, I didn’t realised it adds up to more than 8 pieces on average every day, day in day out.
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BBC tonight Panorama hit piece against Drax
.. so now all of a sudden I am sympathetic towards Drax, given they are being attacked by the tricky BBC
“media research” usually means “research activists handed us, and we just turned up to take the pictures”
‘Drax boought licences to cut forest in Canada’
– yep it’s their right
‘they cut proper trees not just bush ‘
– yep they can do that as long as the proper trees get used for construction etc.
and only the off-cuts go into pellets
Panorama tweet “Joe Crowley also followed a truck from a Drax mill to verify it was picking up whole logs from an area of precious forest.”
..is that sloppy writing and they meant to say he followed a truck from the forest INTO the Drax mill ?
A Drax truck could still go to the forest load a whole log and take it to a place where it was used for timber.
The BBC preview video : https://www.twitter.com/BBCPanorama/status/1576828899950039044
Though they say the forest is PRIMARY
it doesn’t look primary
The trees look fairly small
and long cleared grassland sits nearby.
The voice over says “the land will be replanted but the carbon store will never be as thick”
I’m not sure about that
eg Managed forest can be made to have LESS natural forest fires
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“Co-founder of collapsed energy firm Bulb hopes to expand battery business
Loss-making venture led by Amit Gudka eyes continent as countries move towards using renewable power”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/02/bulb-co-founder-looks-to-expand-his-new-battery-storage-business-into-europe
That opening line sounds a bit like a summary of “green” energy schemes and net zero generally.
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Mark re your 6.41 pm and the Guardian seemingly publishing on average 8 pieces of climate -related journalism every day: slim pickings today. In today’s paper could only find item about King not going to COP 27 (possibly sending William instead) and something already mentioned by you above concerning Bulb’s intended move into 🇮🇹 Italy.
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Stewgreen: thanks, I will try and catch that programme about Drax’ logging activities.
There was a documentary about this a few years ago – might have been Channel 4. If memory serves. it rather refuted the party line of only using off-cuts and waste as whole trunks were trucked directly to chipping plants, not sawmills. However it failed to pick up that there are already uses for sawmill waste: fibreboard, chipboard and energy for the mills – it’s not as if there are mountains of the stuff lying around, rotting.
It will be interesting to see if they touch on logging in Europe. I read somewhere that Estonia has lost over a sixth of its hardwood forests in the last 20 years. Europe’s largest supplier of wood pellets for biomass is headquartered in….Estonia.
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Is anyone here an expert on “chemicals” ?
Bottomline fracking is pretty safe
There are not thousands of death certificates with “fracking” written as cause of death.
An anti-fracking activist was screaming “chemicals” at me
I asked for evidence
and he just cited 2 papers
Of course “the correlation is not proof of causation” rule applies
Firstly I ran it by a UK website check
And I do see they are listed on a Website run by Stirling University
without caveats and contexts
so I don’t like to see a university do that
https://www.hazards.org/cancer/
He said ‘oh you’ll get Leukemia’ and cited : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/17/young-children-fracking-wells-leukemia-study
It claims that in Pennsylvania many families take their water from local wells & then talks about Leukemia correlation
So his warning to me doesn’t apply
Our water doesn’t come from a home well.
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Then he cites another Yale paper
https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/study-identifies-toxins-in-fracking-fluids-and-wastewater/
“Study Identifies Toxins in Fracking Fluids and Wastewater
January 06, 2016”
One thing is that in 6 years only 2 UK websites have mentioned that paper, FoE and 1 anti-fracking blog
FFS the world is full of toxins
like the way the sun is listed as a thing that causes cancer.
That doesn’t mean that cos McDonald’s uses bleach (a toxin) to clean their kitchen, I am at risk
Why’s he citing an old simple paper ?
I guess cos it seems negative.
That paper has only ever been mentioned on Twitter 6 times
each time with zero discussion
4 people mentioned it when it was published. And this activist and another mentioned it in the last few months.
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I heard green measures making EU dependent on Russian gas
now mean that EU forests are being chopped down in 2022 to cover the lower availability of that gas
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Spectator article reporting Ofgem’s view of the likelihood of power outages this winter and the measures that would be taken:
” Warnings about the energy crisis have been circulating for months – but how serious is the chance of the lights going out altogether? Very, according to energy regulator Ofcom, which has outlined in a letter what would happen in the event of the UK being unable to obtain sufficient gas to meet demand.
Writing to Elexon, the company which administers the ‘Balancing and Settlement Code’ which governs the privatised energy market, Ofgem says there is a ‘possibility’ Britain will enter ‘into a gas supply emergency’ this winter and lays out what would happen if it did – i.e. when there is insufficient gas to supply the network at any wholesale price. Ofgem would seek to reduce demand by turning first to the largest gas-users and demanding they switch off their plant. In other words, electricity generation will be sacrificed to maintain gas supply to households.
The UK is painfully dependent on gas to fill in the gaps when wind and solar are unable to deliver the goods. While theoretically we already have enough installed wind and solar capacity to provide sufficient electricity to meet UK demand, the intermittent nature of wind and solar energy means that at times – especially during winter – their contribution falls to virtually nothing. Britain does not possess nearly enough energy storage to cope with this, so we keep the lights on by turning to gas instead. Last year, gas accounted for 39.9 per cent of overall electricity generation.
This winter will be tougher than last because we have lost two of our remaining seven nuclear power stations this year. Moreover, the International Energy Agency (IEA) has warned that the long-range weather forecast shows high pressure dominating western Europe in November and December – the worst conditions for wind and solar energy. To prevent the lights going out, the IEA estimates that Europe will have to reduce demand for gas by up to 13 per cent. None of this bodes well for avoiding blackouts in Britain: the electricity supply will be the first thing to suffer in a gas emergency.”
The comment about sacrificing electricity generation reveals a serious lack of knowledge – unsurprisingly. If the power goes out, boilers won’t run.
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Stewgreen: Fracking fluid is pretty innocuous. Somewhere there’s a video of a guy from one of the fracking outfits drinking a glass as a publicity stunt. He must have survived the experience or it would have been banner headlines.
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MikeHig, the Guardian has that bad forecast too:
“Colder early winter in Europe could worsen cost of living crisis, say forecasters
EU’s meteorological agency warns La Niña weather pattern makes cold, still and dry snap more likely”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/winter-europe-cost-of-living-crisis-la-nina-eu-meteorological-agency
And some idiots believe that the energy crisis would be solved if only we built more wind turbines.
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“Cop27 host Egypt warns UK not to backtrack from climate agenda
Unusual diplomatic intervention prompted by fears over Liz Truss’s commitment to net zero”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/03/cop27-host-egypt-warns-uk-not-backtrack-climate-agenda
Apart from saying “How Dare You?!!!” a la Greta, to a country which in its NDC submitted under the Paris Agreement did little more than pay lip service to reducing emissions, the point I wanted to draw attention to is this:
How often do we have to witness people who should know better conflating/confusing electricity and energy/power? Apart from the dubious claim that even 40% of electricity comes from “clean” energy sources, when so much of it is provided by the likes of Drax, electricity represents maybe 1/5 – 1/6 of the power we use. That being the case, 40% looks more like 5-10% of our power. Fact check called for!
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Well worth a read, IMO:
“The buffoon delivering a permanent energy crisis”
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-buffoon-delivering-a-permanent-energy-crisis/
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The Financial Times has just joined Business Declares, an organisation that started life as XR Business,* is headed by an XRer and has at least two XRers on its board. It wants companies to declare a climate emergency.
https://aboutus.ft.com/press_release/business-declares-climate-coalition
Comments?
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*People often say that XR is a bunch of stinking commies but quite a few leading members are stinking capitalists. Bradbrook and Hallam, for example, have often described themselves as entrepreneurs.**
It was a clash between such people and those of a less stinking capitalist persuasion that caused XR Business to have such a short life and led directly to the founding of Business Declares. Launched on Easter Monday in 2019, XR Business’s website was deleted just two days later after stinking commies complained about XR’s brand being hijacked by stinking capitalists. In an apologetic statement released in late May, Bradbrook was full of love, gratitude and rage:
https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2019/05/27/xr-business-public-correction/
Business Declares was launched in September 2019 by some of the people who had launched XR Business. It has lasted a lot longer and, with the FT climbing aboard, may well be here to stay.
But only if you stinking capitalist commies put your hands in your pockets. Here’s its fundraiser:
https://chuffed.org/project/business-declares
That’s been online for at least two years but has met only 11.5% of its £25k target.***
**I think Bradbrook has only ever described herself as a social entrepreneur, but hey, a lot of stinking capitalist spivs call themselves that.
***That’s Cityboyz for you. Crap performance but puffed by the FT (and prolly lots of big bonuses).
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Despite the Press Release being on the FT website
the FT hasn’t tweeted it
Only Business Declares has
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Thanks the guy seemed confused about proof and evidence
Seems if he supports something then evidence is proof
If he doesn’t support something then evidence is just evidence.
He seemed to go off in a huff
and chose not to answer my final strong points
.. https://www.twitter.com/hello_late/status/1576943613082116096
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A bit ironic, in the wake of 28Gate, with which I believe George has no problem:
“Rightwing thinktanks run this government. But first, they had to capture the BBC
George Monbiot
Why are representatives of these shadily funded groups treated as impartial observers on flagship news programmes?”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/05/rightwing-thinktanks-government-bbc-news-programmes
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BBC local radio presenter first did an anti-fracking tweet
“MORNING ALL 🤘🏿😜🤘🏿
BREKKIE TODAY:
⛔️: FRACK OFF w/ @East_Riding”
Now he’s just put up a clip with his interview with anti-frackers
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That’s a conspiracy theory
Does he present any proper evidence for it ?
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Tom Nelson interviews Andrew Montford on his podcast:
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A couple of new posts from Ed Hoskins:
“Green Thinking: a contradiction in terms and the induced self-destruction of the West”
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/green-thinking/
And:
“A few graphs say it all for Weather-Dependent “Renewables””
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/3-graphs-say-it-all-for-renewables/
The latter article is also featured at WUWT:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/05/a-few-graphs-say-it-all-for-weather-dependent-renewables-2/
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“No one voted for Liz Truss’s policies. That’s why we stormed her conference speech
Rebecca Newsom and Ami McCarthy
At Greenpeace, we’ve found manifesto-busting pledges on everything from the climate to workers’ rights”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/05/greenpeace-liz-truss-conference-speech-economy-environment
I share Greenpeace’s disquiet at the way a modest number of Conservative voters elected a PM who doesn’t seem too interested in abiding by her party’s manifesto commitments (but then I don’t remember this fuss when Gordon Brown seamlessly replaced Tony Blair without anybody having voted for him). But as for this:
Hmm. Sort of. It’s true that this stuff was in the Tory party manifesto at the last election, but then it was in almost every party manifesto election. Voters didn’t really have any choice. It’s a bit rich to say they voted for it in any realistic way. They voted for a party, and that party, like almost all the others, didn’t offer them any choice on that question. That’s not to say that all Tory voters were enthusiastically voting for “strong action on climate”, but it suits Greenpeace to pretend that they did.
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Front page of the Times today, “Plea for European help against blackouts.”
On the website the most recent version is “Britain urges European leaders to help keep lights on amid blackout fears.”
The summary is, if it’s not windy the lights might go out in the UK, so we would like to ask our friends in Europe to commit to sending us >5GW if we need it.
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Gosh! Radon Liz in Party Conference speech attacks Greens for being anti-growth. Haven’t they always been?
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Jit,
Keir Starmer made it clear at his conference that a Great British Energy company relying upon ‘British wind’ will see us through. We have no need of any European wind.
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As heard a few minutes ago on PM. Guest speaker Kathryn Porter (the sensible one from Watt-Logic) interview by Evan Davies:
DAVIES: Kathryn, talk us through the scenarios – what it would be, what it takes, for us not to have margins through the winter.
PORTER: Well National Grid is thinking that the main risk is around not having access to imports. Unfortunately I think it’s missing a really big risk, and that’s what happens when it’s not windy.
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17:06 ish if you are in range of BBC Sounds.
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Wednesday BBC local news environmental reporter honed an anti-fracking item.
He aired a line of his activist mates reading scripted lines
Rachael Bice Wildlife Trust
eg Poppy RommeryThen govt answer was read
Then clip of the Environment minister from Twitter
“No application for fracking has been made in our entire area YET
.. conservationists believe it could have a DEVASTATING effect on nature and wildlife ”
Now Philip Norton reporting that East Yorkshire council has made a statement against fracking
“Now viewer comments , quite a few people saying it’s time to give up on the British Steel industry ”
I’ll check their tweets.
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9am local news
“New oil gas licences
.. BUT could take upto 10 years to flow
..BUT here’s a Sturgeon clip to pour gloom”
Note the difference in BBCNews Tweets to Skynews
15 hours ago https://www.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1578066468805173248
3 hours ago https://www.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1578249078185639936
BBC *spins* anti-oil headlines
Sky gives facts
.. https://www.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1578257397243584512
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Some student has a theory about the Greenland icesheet,
BBC runs that, I guess cos it aims to keep up a narrative of green and ice melt stories.
“Greenland’s future may be written under North Sea”
by Jonathan Amos
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From the department of unintended consequences:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/20034279/appliances-overnight-fire-risk-pay-households-avoid-blackouts/
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You have a few hours left to catch this stunning propaganda from our local BBC news
With the regular calm presenter away
@LookNorthBBC opened with this
“International climate experts say that government plans on new oil licences are WRONG”
that is
#1 Opinion
#2 From un-named sources
#3 It’s not actual detail about the new oil/gas licence news
Compare it to the SkyNews detail
I tweeted : I am appalled
I know some people desperately believe in GreenDreams
but that item was done as if it was written by wind/solar PR professionals
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cv78
The prog ended with lines that made it sound the story
was that more windfarns would be opening
When the actual news was about new oil/gas field licences
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Partial Transcript
“Good evening : international climate experts say it’s wrong and a danger to our environment,
BUT the government has announced today that it is pressing ahead with DIGGING fossil fuels from under the sea
100 new gas and Oil exploration licences have been granted for the sea off the East coast including Yorkshire and Lincolnshire.
The climate minister is Grahame Stuart the Beverly MP.
He’s a fan of green energy, but says we have to react to current pressures on fuel supplies
Here’s what he told the BBC this morning”
Stuart “It’s a transition, … the more extreme voices want us to switch off everything today, but that’s not the plan
The plan is to make a transition with investment in oil and gas
.. and in renewables and other technologies, all of which we are doing going forward” cut
Presenter Leanne “Well it brings into focus the debate around what’s the best and most practical way forward for our energy supplies.
Fossil Fuels OR renewables ?” (fallacy alert ..Fallacy of false dichotomy the minister just said it’s not a case of one or the other)
GREEN CAMPAIGNERS want to see an end to oil and gas extraction
(is that true ? because if you have CCS that means fossil fuels are zero carbon emissions)
but sources of renewable energy are also being met with strong opposition
our environment correspondent has been to Lincolnshire where there are plans for massive solar farms.”
into video report ..
Did you see what they did ?
Instead of simply reporting what the government has done, they turned their report into “It’s a debate” FFS the decision has been made.
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The end take at 26m06s
“The headlines ..and here Fossil Fuels OR renewables ?
As the government gives the green light to drilling in the North Sea
huge solar farms are planned for Lincolnshire “
..The solar farms are not today’s news
that bit is being mixed in to dampen the new oilfield announcement news.
“weather”
“Now we we’re talking about the energy crisis and whether we should look to renewables OR fossil fuels” (fallacy of false dichotomy)
Again that is not the actual news, that is how they are spinning it
Viewer comments were read
#1Ernest “start fracking ..stop the madness of Net Zero now”
#2 Lynn “I agree with renewables but need gas/oil in short term
put solar on roofs
#3 Rob “No solar panels fields. should be on roofs instead”
FFS If the aim is to reduce world CO2 then UK solar PV panels are always wrong, cos the same solar panel situated in sunny Africa would displace 3 or 4 times more CO2.
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I scanned Twitter and Facebook for debate on that prog
..nothing
Seems the logical righties have given up and think that’s what you expect from the BBC
The tweets to the prog’s own account are 97% from their own bubbleworld congratulating them for winning some RTS awards last night.
The independent Facebook page had a couple of posts about solar on roofs. but were largely ignored cos Facebook people tend to be righties and fairly sceptical of green dreams.
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The BBC seems to be the political wing of the renewables energy industry:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63183946
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“Young activists urge focus on cash for climate damage at COP27”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63132619
How very green!
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“Coming up on Woman’s Hour .. 2 COP27 Climate activists”
..yet righties should be denied a voice on the BBC
Oh they just put out a promo tweet.. BAME activist pictured with Attenborough
.. https://www.twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1579388854926295040
“In a few weeks leaders will be gathering in Egypt for the climate conference COP27.
But whose voices are we not hearing from?
Environment activists Farwiza Farhan (@wiiiiza) and Patience Nabukalu (@patienceNabz) join @JessCreighton1”
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BBCnews was merged with GreenBlob PR some time ago
Then recently they merged with Labour Party PR
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Woman’s Hour do this PR thing of tweeting the same thing twice
.. https://www.twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1579405326469799937
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BBCr4 @Costingtheearth tweets
How did our prehistoric ancestors cope with climate change?
We join a ground-breaking archaeological investigation on gorgeous Malta with @DrEleanorScerri and her crack team Tuesday 3.30 @BBCRadio4 @BBCSounds https://bbc.in/3V9jnHP
Did they fly ?
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How could I forget? Exactly twelve years ago there was the 10:10 campaign, complete with the notorious Richard Curtis ‘splatterfest’ video. In keeping with Bit Rot their Apology Page for that PR atrocity is no longer. But Tory frontbench signs up to 10:10 climate change campaign in The Guardian, over a year in advance, gives a bit of a flavour. And Cliscep’s own Tom Fuller (but before we were a thing) wrote up some reactions in Blow Me Up, Blow Me Down on WUWT. Happy days.
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ITV local newsPR has gone into a Climate PR bollocks item
Studio “this years drought *could* put up every households food costs by £40 next year
here’s a syndicated item by Nick Smith”
#1 “Here’s a cherrypicked farmer who had a bad year”
.. (they could’ve picked a grain or maize famer who’d had a very good year)
#2 Soil Association bloke Ben Raskin
That’ll be the org who organised this PR
see the anti-Tory green nutcases he retweets https://www.twitter.com/Ben_Raskin
The narrative was a dry soil means the nutrients haven’t been been spread around
(in a few weeks they’ll be complaining that floods have washed nutrients away)
FFS you never end summer with the reservoirs full, they fill up during the winter
All but our biggest rainwater tanks are full
If it doesn’t rain again before the end of May 2023 we might run out
Update : The presenter put up a tweet https://www.twitter.com/NickSmithITV/status/1579510957545775107
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BBC local newsPR
“fracking , North Sea Oil, solar what should be the future, we will have the Climate Minister on who’s a local MP”
… Guess which angles the BBC wants ?
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First BBC tried framing trickery, by starting with a pre-recorded clip of a Tory MP they cherrypicked who hates fracking.
Stuart tried to strike both sides of the fence
“fracking I’ve always been in favour but scientists can’t predict so we need test wells”
“Solar it’s fantastic” etc.
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em of course there is an archived version of the 10:10 apology page
The URL you have given is wrong
it seems to me you got there by using a short URL which has now been reused as that Cabinanoid advert page
Archive : https://web.archive.org/web/20110421223708/http://www.1010global.org/no-pressure
Also the Portuguese 10:10 issued their own apology
https://web.archive.org/web/20101011153704/http://www.1010global.org/pt/2010/10/esclarecimento-sobre-o-v%C3%ADdeo-no-pressure-da-campanha-brit%C3%A2nica
Screenshots .. https://www.twitter.com/No2BS/status/1579557995054522369
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Phew, what a relief! That’ll make the difference between CAGW and not CAGW:
“Climate change: Isle of Man could be a world leader, advisor says”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-63202159
Seriously? What part of energy security issues and people destroying pipelines (and by inference, also able to damage cables) haven’t they noticed recently?
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Another relief!
“‘Significant progress’ in Wiltshire’s carbon neutral aims”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-63174003
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With food costs rising, does anyone seriously think this is a good idea?
“New Zealand farmers may pay for greenhouse gas emissions under world-first plans
By 2025, farmers would pay a levy on emissions from sources such as cow burps and gases from their urine under proposals released by Jacinda Ardern”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/11/new-zealand-farmers-may-pay-for-greenhouse-gas-emissions-under-world-first-plans
Great logic – make the farmers pay higher levies, and that will give them an international competitive advantage!
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Frau Prof Dr Julia Steinberger collared after Wankdorf, Bern, stuck fingers shock horror probe!
The ‘internationally renowned climate scientist’ (she’s actually a social ecologist, whatever that means) said she had glued her hand to a pelican crossing between Winkelried Street and Wankdorf Bridge because she is a mother, a citizen, a teacher and a scientist who knows that it’s ‘no exaggeration to say that the habitability of our planet is being destroyed before our eyes’.
She was arrested at about 9am today and released a few hours later. She has yet to be charged with anything. The pelican was unharmed.
URL:renovate-switzerland.ch/2022/10/11/communique-de-presse-julia-steinberger-et-quatre-autres-sympathisants-de-renovate-switzerland-bloquent-la6-a-berne-wankdorf/
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Mark – thanks for the “Climate change: Isle of Man could be a world leader, advisor says” comment link above.
from the BBC post –
“Prof Curran also believed “driving hard ambitions” was “vitally important” to the future economy of the island.
He said with a greater global focus on sustainability “businesses won’t want to locate here, they won’t want to invest here”, if climate change was not prioritised
…..
The advisor, who is stepping down from his role advising government, expects the Isle of Man will “move really fast” to be “up-there” with world leaders on climate change.
The focus now needs to be all about “delivery, delivery, delivery”, he said.”
seems 3 is the magic number if you repeat a word fast enough.
ps – that BBC post linked to – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-62270392
which says –
“A ban on fossil fuel heating in new buildings is also going to be introduced in 2024, a year earlier than planned.
Further changes would see building regulations that ensure sure new buildings are 97% energy efficient.
…….
When asked in Tynwald why the plan was not more ambitious, Mr Cannan said the targets that had been outlined were “realistic and achievable”.”
as usual it’s all magical thinking – “A ban on fossil fuel heating in new buildings is also going to be introduced in 2024” – wonder how the new homes will be heated in the winter?
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Is it news ? or is it PR ?
The BBC have found a voice they like
and are simply cutNPasting his views
thus fulfilling their daily quota of CorrectThink articles
.. Very Stalinist
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Oh the other day @itvCalendar the local ITV newsPR show ran an item
“People are buying an electric blanket to heat themselves instead of using gas central heating”
Then they quoted figures of 20p for a hour blanket vs £2 to heat the room with gas
Hmm our gas central heating costs a few pounds per day to heat a *whole house*
So how did they get their maths ?
They said their figs were from The Energy Savings Trust
Hmm that’s a green PR outfit.
I see the boss of Octopus Energy making the same claim as he runs his scheme giving away electric blankets.
.. https://www.twitter.com/g__j/status/1579059352152944640
He’s saying you run a 10KW boiler for an hour.
Em yes a boiler is 10KW but our boiler doesn’t sit there consuming 10KW for a whole hour. It fires up at less than 10KW spends some mins bringing the whole house to 18C then switches off
The average use through the hour is nowhere near 10KW for one room.
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Viewer comments read at the end on Monday mostly were pro UK gas
and Tuesday’s comments too less than half GreenDream
So the prog is doing a good job of reflecting the real world
rather than giving us GreenDream activists only, like most of the BBC usually do.
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Oh yes ITV national did parrot the deceitful Octopus Energy claims
#PRasNews
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“Use Covid lessons to curb climate change, Lords tell government”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63209451
Information, or nudges?
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12:16 R4 PR for Warrington Councils solar and battery scheme
“Now plants have been handed over Warrington Council is 100% renewable”
plants are in York, Hull and Cirencester cost £62m
(BBC presenter actually pointed out that’s really an offset scheme)
Obvious to me that sometimes solar and batteries will be low eg in January
so they’ll be drawing energy off the grid whilst not inputting any
.. ie they will gas powered.
Labour spokes is smiling ..cos of current high price
Then she says that a new solar farm will power an electric bus fleet.
Bet they charge the buses will charge at night
when solar is outputting zero
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Someone might be able to decode the story
eg funny terms like 23MWp
https://www.renews.biz/81074/
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The BritishVolt “Gigafactory” sinks deeper into the mire:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-finance-and-corporate/report-britishvolt-talks-sell-northumberland-gigafactory
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Desperate stuff all round:
“Net zero: Green groups paint us as villains, minister says”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63228113
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“Oxfordshire council pensions criticised for fossil fuel investment”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-63228169
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From the “you couldn’t make it up” section of the Guardian:
“US Democrats threaten Saudi Arabia with arms freeze over oil output
Congress members raise prospect of one-year sales ban unless kingdom reverses Opec+ decision to cut production”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/12/us-democrats-threaten-saudi-arabia-with-arms-freeze-over-oil-output
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Net Zero Watch has posted an article from the FT wherein the head of Chevron stated:
“The reality is, fossil fuel is what runs the world today. It’s going to run the world tomorrow and five years from now, 10 years from now, 20 years from now.”
Hopefully this bit of pushback will lead to others. It’s about time the fossil fuel industry put on its big-boy pants and spelt out some harsh truths, although it’s probably too late.
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Wednesday BBC local news PR
“the climate minister Graham Stuart has said that both onshore wind and fracking play a part in the energy future
here’s our environmental reporter live from Sancton wind farm”
“Well Peter there is not much to see here at Sancton”
.. now what’s the camera shot black and still, for real ?
cross 20 miles away where I am watching it was still light
It’s it’s possible that the truth is the wind farm was not moving and the programme had deliberately made the picture dark.
“the minister has said that turbine developers must respect the local community”
strange phrasing ?
” now one of the contentious issues is fracking
the Minister said it’s good for the environment cos imported gas has a higher carbon footprint
he said that it would be irresponsible not to explore for shale”
Studio “hello popular do you think those comments will be ?”
“the government has not defined what community support what means
.. we don’t know if that means that local councils will be able to veto proposals from fracking or wind farms”
Studio”Earlier I spoke to Doctor Doug Parr the campaign director for Greenpeace”
“what’s not to like about fracking, I assume you are in favour of it”
DP “No we are not thrilled at all by the idea of fracking
.. we are in the midst of a climate emergency
.. we just had a third of Pakistan underwater with floods
in Britain we had a drought and climate emergency
(I don’t accept the we had an actual drought Britain certainly had a lot of water, asserting that it was a UK drought is more of a PR thing)
“If if the UK mine’s more fossil fuels that’s means there are more fossil fuels on the world
and that would make fossil fuels *cheaper* in the long run
..Now if we don’t take a stand as one of the richest Nations
we are going to fry as a planet”
“is it right that local people have a say but if they don’t want it they don’t have to have it?”
“yes that’s right”
“so you support someone who says they don’t want an onshore wind farm near them ?”
“are in a climate emergency I think people understand that” says Parr shouting now
“solar and wind massively more popular than fracking on any pole that’s ever been”
BBC guy hey apparently there’s 4 trillion pounds worth of gas beneath our feet, creating jobs and allowing is not to rely on Vladimir Putin”
DP “our problem on our reliance on overseas fossil fuels is that we need to do something about DEMAND”
Then here are a few comments that were coming in from the public 2 that seemed supportive of fracking, and none against.
At the end of the show they read out more comments.
One was against fracking and one was for, another sneered at Jacob rees-mogg”
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Hmm, maybe worth a read, if you wish to depress yourself:
“I’m maligned as a ‘green energy sceptic’. I’m not. Dear Guardian reader, here’s what I think
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Critics suggest our growth agenda conflicts with the need to achieve net zero. They couldn’t be more wrong”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/13/green-energy-guardian-reader-growth-net-zero-liz-truss-jacob-rees-mogg
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love the below the post plea by the Guardian –
“There can be no more hiding, and no more denying. Global heating is supercharging extreme weather at an astonishing speed. Guardian analysis recently revealed how human-caused climate breakdown is accelerating the toll of extreme weather across the planet. People across the world are losing their lives and livelihoods due to more deadly and more frequent heatwaves, floods, wildfires and droughts triggered by the climate crisis.
At the Guardian, we will not stop giving this life-altering issue the urgency and attention it demands. We have a huge global team of climate writers around the world and have recently appointed an extreme weather correspondent. ”
thought that they only employed “extreme weather correspondent’s”?
can’t wait to find out who she/he is.
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from https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/10/12/i-could-not-have-said-it-better-tulsi/
“Why I’m leaving the Democratic Party”
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Why I can’t re-join the Labour Party:
“Labour vows to treble solar power use during first term if elected
Ed Miliband criticises Liz Truss’s ‘anti-green-energy dogma’ after plans to ban solar projects revealed”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/13/labour-vows-to-treble-solar-power-use-during-first-term-if-elected
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Perhaps we should have a COP27 thread? Although it’s not receiving anything like the media attention given to COP26 in Glasgow, it is starting to register on the media’s radar screen. E.g.:
“Egypt silenced climate experts’ voices before hosting Cop27, HRW says
Failure to address country’s abuses will obstruct rollout of meaningful climate action, director of Human Rights Watch says”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/14/cop27-egypt-host-climate-talks
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BBC does clickbait headlines, sometimes by the “quote as a headline” trick.
So the BBC made an article which is against the Climate Minister’s opinion that local produced gas is greener than foreign
but used a clickbait headline to draw people in
Greenblobbullies then threw their toys out of the pram
screaming “How dare the BBC be anything other than totally compliant to Greenblob dogma”
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Professional Green activist Phd tweeting local BBC staff to get them to do PR for his event : A Climate Hackathon next Tuesday sponsored by the windfarm company and the consulting corp he works for
.. https://twitter.com/willis_talks/status/1580555234933637121
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Is this symbolic of Britain in the 21st century? Turn a power station into a shopping mall.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63234124
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Not a good day for people pushing the climate-related agenda:
“Beyond Meat executive exits after biting incident”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63260645
And:
“Van Gogh’s Sunflowers back on display after oil protesters threw soup on it”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63254878
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“Ross McKitrick: Yet again, IPCC’s climate math doesn’t check out”
https://financialpost.com/opinion/opinion-yet-again-ipccs-climate-math-doesnt-check-out
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It hasn’t been a power station for +40 years
I think we should be careful of giving attention to things,
just cos the BBC pushes them
Here BBC is just talking about Battersea
cos the property developer want people to talk about it
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Something I haven’t seen reported about the Van Gogh Sunflowers attack: it was filmed by Damien Gayle, the Guardian’s environment correspondent. He filmed it from the beginning, from when they took off their coats to reveal the slogans on their t shirts, so he was obviously in in the conspiracy. In other words, he committed the major journalistic crime of creating the news instead of reporting it. And it got him 25 million views on twitter.
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had a look at Nic’s paper _https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00382-022-06468-x
“Objectively combining climate sensitivity evidence – Nicholas Lewis”
too deep for me to even comment on.
only thing of note I can comment on –
“Funding, No funding has been received for this work.”
aah, no big oil doners for Nic then!!!!
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” The climate change is not the cause of the problem.
Cameroon open their dam into Nigeria and that is what caused the flooding.
There was an agreement between Nigeria and Cameroon
and Nigeria didn’t keep to its end of the deal
@chukkiefrom98th writes on BBCnews Instagram post
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I spot some people saying that is Nigerian Government propaganda.
But other posts back it up eg this credible one
“In 1977, construction of the Lagdo Dam, located in Northern Cameroon began and was completed in 1982.
Initially, the Cameroonian and Nigerian Government’s had agreed to build two dams so that when excess water is released from the Cameronian dam, it will be contained by the
Nigerian dam which would be two and a half times bigger and won’t result in flooding
Nigerian Government agreed to construct the Dasin Hausa Dam in Adamawa State to lessen the impact of any potential flooding from the Lagdo dam in Cameroon.
Regrettably, the Dasin Hausa dam has not been completed since 1982 and this has led to the yearly flooding in Nigeria”
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Good spot, Geoff! I assumed that Damien Gayle’s tweets used a video released by Just Stop Oil but at least two people filmed the Van Gogh vandalism and the Grauniad credits Gayle with the video used in its article. (The other video was by Rich Felgate, who is making a flim about JSO.)
If all of Gayle’s tweeted videos are his own work then he must have made one of my favourite XR videos. A polite policeman shepherding
Grandma GilesGenny Scherer as she shouts about genocide during her fifth or sixth arrest:(I think Scherer’s first arrest was at a Rising Up protest at Heathrow in 2016. In 2017, she was arrested once or twice during protests by a Rising Up spinoff called Stop Killing Londoners – which was led by soon-to-be-XR-bigwigs Roger Hallam, Stu Basden and Ian Bray – and once at a protest outside an arms fair. Then along came XR, with its endless opportunites for getting arrested. She was arrested at an XR protest just two days before that Downing Street vid and has been arrested perhaps twenty more times since at protests by XR and its Insulate Britain, Palestine Action and Just Stop Oil spinoffs. Happy days, grandma!)
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Stew, the text in that Twitter thread about the Nigerian floods is indeed credible but it is somewhat undermined by the photo, which, weirdly, shows a dam in Montana, not Cameroon.
Even weirder, Nigeria’s state broadcaster has used the same photo in the same way:
https://radionigeria.gov.ng/2022/09/23/flooding-nigerias-preparedness-to-combat-the-scourge/
You’d think the snow in the background might have been a bit of a clue.
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That is an interesting, but nitpicking observation
Since I don’t think it makes a difference to his his argument.
Sure the Radio Nigeria report uses that photo
but it doesn’t label it as the Cameroon Dam
They just used a generic dam photo
I guess the poster read that report and assumed it was the the actual dam.
It’s actually The Kerr Dam and Powerhouse
BTW there was a firm report on Sept 17th saying floods would happen
https://thenationonlineng.net/13-states-prone-to-flood-as-cameroon-opens-lagdo-dam-nema/
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Stew, to nitpick a bit more:
(a) I’m not that sure my comment qualified as nitpicking. I did say that the explanation you offered for the Nigerian flood was credible. (And it is.) My thing about the photo was wholly incidental. It was intended as trivia, not nitpickery.
(b) You shouldn’t call it the Kerr Dam any more. It’s now the Seli’š Ksanka Qlispe’ Dam, which perhaps means something like ‘bitter-root lean-meat-eating ear-dangling dam’, but my Salish is a bit rusty and when I click on the relevant Wiki link to get more info about the new name I get this message instead:
I prolly won’t bother.
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“Lakes comic art festival wants to ‘change the world'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-63229554
Isn’t there a certain inconsistency between a focus on “the climate crisis” [sic] and being an International festival? I wonder what is the “carbon footprint” of the artists from Morocco, Phillipines, Iceland, Korea, Egypt and elsewhere?
https://www.comicartfestival.com/exhibitors
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“Climate change: Can an enormous seaweed farm help curb it?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63200589
Climate change hysteria seems to be driving all sorts of craziness, but follow the money…
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RadioHumberside is claiming the economically viable CCS
at Sask power’s Boundary Dam Project
https://www.saskpower.com/Our-Power-Future/Infrastructure-Projects/Carbon-Capture-and-Storage/Boundary-Dam-Carbon-Capture-Project
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Stew, the Saskatchewan Boundary Dam project is even more impressive than you might have thought. First, the power station is an old one, fully functional in the 1960s, second, it burns relatively low grade coal, effectively lignite.
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Here’s the key to the project:
“The majority of the captured gas is sold to operator Cenovus for enhanced oil recovery (EOR) at its Weyburn oilfield. Cenovus has set up injection wells and built a 40 mile-long pipeline connecting Weyburn with Boundary Dam.”
Taken from a comprehensive write-up:
http://www.zeroco2.no/projects/saskpowers-boundary-dam-power-station-pilot-plant
CCS has been fitted to one of the five coal-fired units in a $1.6 bn project which included a major refurbishment of the plant.
That oil field has been using CO2 for enhanced oil recovery for a long time – over 30 years – with the CO2 piped 300 km from a synfuel plant.
Alan; If memory serves, you have some personal knowledge of this?
Perhaps you can confirm whether the CO2 is, in fact, sequestered. It’s not clear if it is used to pressurise the field or to reduce the viscosity of the oil. If it’s the former, I guess the gas stays underground. If it’s the latter, isn’t it vented when the oil is treated at the surface?
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Mike, Encana who operated the Weyburn-Mildale oilfields used CO2 to extract additional oil as well as storing the CO2 underground in what is essentially an internationally monitored method of underground disposal. The tertiary recovery scheme used to purchase its CO2 from a U.S. gasification plant sending it through specially drilled horizontal wells as a CO2-front that mixed with the oil to form a less viscous oil-gas mixture that moved away from the front towards producing wells. I would imagine that any mixed CO2 would be separated at the surface and re injected. Most of the CO2 fills porosity ahead of the front and is counted as permanently stored gas.
I don’t know but I wonder if the US gasification plant has ceased operating and the Boundary Dam power plant now supplies the CO2.
I never studied the Carboniferous limestone reservoirs in Saskatchewan (although a colleague did and I saw the cores he studied).
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3:30pm Next Monday “Wine in a Changing Climate
The Food Programme
As rising temperatures supercharge the UK wine industry, Jaega Wise finds out what this means for winegrowing at home and abroad, and the mixed blessing climate change presents”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001dd8h
Will they mention that clever crop breeding has brought us varieties that are more resilient against British weather ?
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Vinny I don’t attack people personally
trivia and nitpickery seem the same to me
that is what I meant, I of course accepted your argument
Yes I did know about the name change.
The msg you get is merely a standard reply to EU data protection rules, that US news sites can’t be bothered in trying to be compliant, so they just self block instead.
The UK is not in the EU of course.
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Come on, someone must know the maths
$1.6bn infrastructure spend to recover small amount of CO2 4.5m tonnes so far, is nowhere near economic is it ?
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Mike. I suppose I really didn’t precisely answer your questions. Some of the CO2 dissolves in the oil making it less viscous, so that it flows more readily towards the producing wells. Ultimately this reaches the surface. At the same time most of the CO2 occupies the porosity between the injection wells and the oil-CO2 mixing front, maintaining pressure and driving the CO2-oil emulsion towards producing wells and to the surface. So most of the CO2 is retained underground and is counted as stored CO2, whereas that within the oil-CO2 mix will be produced and (presumably) re-injected. Both the CO2 that maintains subsurface pressure and that which dissolves in the oil are essential for the EOR process.
Hope this helps.
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Alan, Thanks for those replies: it’s good to learn! So most of the CO2 is definitely sequestered and probably all of it as it would make sense to re-inject, as you say.
I did some digging – the syngas plant is owned and operated by Dakota Gasification and they seem to be in good health, judging by their website:
https://www.dakotagas.com/
They claim to have captured 40m tons of CO2 for sequestration to date, in the Weyburn and Midale fields. Seems to be a dynamic and versatile outfit.
I also read that Cenovus was formed when Encana split itself into 2 companies 10+ years ago.
EOR/sequestration has enormous potential, as I understand it. Oil companies get paid for sequestering CO2 plus they get more oil out of the ground. They talk of “Blue Oil” which is carbon-negative in that more CO2 is sequestered than is released during production, refining and consumption. Must make green heads explode! Do your bit for the planet….buy a gas-guzzler and run it on petrol derived from Blue Oil!!
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Alan, forgot to add that I couldn’t find out why Cenovus has tied into the Boundary Dam project. I can only guess that they wanted an additional source of CO2.
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Stew, I wasn’t offended. I was just being somewhat tipsysilly.
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I’ve just spent ages identifying the JSOer who climbed the Dartford bridge today with Kiwi bambusoideaephiliac Morgan Trowland. A stupid waste of time because the police will provide his full name when he’s charged, but it’s done now, so…
He’s a German (less likely: Hungarian) guitarist called Marcus Decker. Aliases: Marcus Carambola, Marcus De and Gurmasix. Like so many of his bossy, undemocratic, climate-concerned chums, he’s a committed globe-trotter. In recent years he has been to New Zealand, Panama, Dominica, India, Indonesia, Morocco and about a dozen European countries. That’s from mentions at his ‘Marcus De’ Facebook account. No doubt he has been to other places too.
So: a globe-trotting German (or perhaps Hungarian) guitarist closed an important London motorway today as a way of telling the UK government to stop drilling for oil and gas.
Citizens of the world, unite!
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Vinny, thanks for that. And right on cue, here’s another one:
“COP27: Swimmer attempts Red Sea crossing for climate change”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63263087
So CO2 emissions must be reduced because of climate change, just not Mr Pugh’s CO2 emissions….
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Very sad news from my home town (sorry, city) – an event that was watched by huge numbers and brought much-needed funds to the area has apparently fallen victim to the Climate Puritans:
“Sunderland Airshow axed over climate change”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-63292905
But hosting a World Triathlon Championship, which presumably will involve people travelling to Sunderland from all over the world, is compatible with those objectives?
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A letter in the Scottish Herald today:
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“Sunderland Airshow axed over climate change”
are they going to stop people going on Hols to Spain/USA.. etc next?
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ps – or is just an excuse to save some money ?
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https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/10/16/no-bbc-there-were-no-record-excess-deaths-this-summer/
the BEEB can’t help but push this –
“as the UK endured record high temperatures of 40C this summer, there were around 3,000 more deaths in the over-65s than usual in England and Wales – the highest figure since 2004.
Many happened during the hottest days towards the end of July and in early August.
The data comes from a report by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) and UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA).
Experts say it shows just how dangerous hot weather can be.”
tell that to the people jetting to some sunny location, no you never interview/get comments from them do you.
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“Billionaire Mo Ibrahim attacks ‘hypocrisy’ over Africa’s gas
Telecoms entrepreneur says continent’s people should be allowed to use their vast reserves”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/17/billionaire-mo-ibrahim-attacks-hypocrisy-over-africas-gas
And he’s right, of course. Comfortable middle class JSO protestors and the rest of them would happily condemn hundreds of millions of people to poverty.
On the other hand, African countries can’t whinge about “climate justice”, demanding “compensation” for “climate change” while ostensibly contributing to it themselves. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
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I am perplexed. The demonstrators on the Queen Elizabeth Bridge are far above the traffic, so why is the bridge closed? Yes vibrations might dislodge them but only if they are not firmly attached. But that is their responsibility and to disrupt a major route upon the possibility that the climbers might not be responsible for their own safety seems incommensurate. If we followed that sort of policy to its logical limit we would stop all car traffic because drivers might hit foot traffic on neighbouring sidewalks.
I was also confused by one driver unable to cross the bridge sitting in his stationary vehicle with apparently his engine running. Asked by the interviewer, he expressed sympathy for the protesters, while polluting the immediate neighbourhood and releasing scads of CO2. Life is funny sometimes.
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Alan Kendall: ‘I am perplexed. The demonstrators on the Queen Elizabeth Bridge are far above the traffic, so why is the bridge closed?’
Me too.
The police must be following tick-boxed guidance about people who climb bridges being suicidal. Several videos by one of the climbers make it clear that they are not suicidal, but hey – they have climbed a bridge so they tick the right boxes for the bridge to be closed.
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I’ve found another alias of the – definitely German, not Hungarian – second climber: ‘Marcus Hylobates’. Hylobates is a genus of gibbons. (So ‘Hylobates marcus’ would have been better, Marcus.)
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Was shown a different angle of the Queen Elizabeth Bridge tonight. Protesters located right above road track so their slippage might well cause a mess, as well as scaring a motorist somewhat. Perhaps the police should be able to electrify the cables.
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As ever duplicating my comment from bBBC
7:30pm BBC2 Their Greta is being interviewed by Amol
That’s typical ..another ADVERT for libmob agendas and libmob book.
No similar PR for people who campaign about other causes like grooming gangs or open borders
Saturday’s Times had a cover photo and long article
The last sentence showed it was about plugging her book
“‘The Climate Book’ created by Greta Thunberg will be published on 27 October! With chapters contributed by many scientists
Katharine Hayhoe (bit crazy), economist Thomas Piketty and novelist Margaret Atwood”
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As ever Greta did get a bashing in the Times comments
but unusually the top comment was pro Greta
Mods deleted quite a few comments
Theoretically only paying subscribers can comment
So the 920 comment tally is quite a lot.
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Germane to the latest Greta hero-worshipping, Spiked online has just run an essay with a very good point, by one of their new writers, Lauren Smith. The title is:
“Of course climate change is a political issue: Greta is wrong to suggest that environmentalism is above politics.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/18/of-course-climate-change-is-a-political-issue/
Here’s a taste:
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“HSBC climate change adverts banned by UK watchdog”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63309878
At last! Or so I briefly thought. Finally, someone is doing something about the hyperbolic and inaccurate “climate crisis” claims that are now ubiquitous. Fat chance. It’s about “greenwashing”.
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“Concern about climate change shrinks globally as threat grows, survey shows
Fewer than half of those questioned in global poll believe climate change poses a ‘very serious threat’”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/19/concern-about-climate-change-shrinks-globally-as-threat-grows-survey-shows
How frustrating it must be for the Guardian, after decades of unrelenting propaganda, to find that people choose to believe the evidence of their own eyes rather than propaganda.
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Colour me unconvinced:
“Next pandemic may come from melting glaciers, new data shows
Analysis of Arctic lake suggests viruses and bacteria locked in ice could reawaken and infect wildlife”
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/oct/19/next-pandemic-may-come-from-melting-glaciers-new-data-shows
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“How frustrating it must be for the Guardian, after decades of unrelenting propaganda, to find that people choose to believe the evidence of their own eyes rather than propaganda.” Mark Hodgson
I am also unconvinced. Swings in ratings data are, despite the large number of people’s views sought, just as likely to be due to natural variation. If not, the cause in this instance could be just as likely due to growing indifference or apathy as due to changed opinions. Most people, in my experience, are followers, rather than strong believers. They also prefer the quiet life.
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After our new Suffragettes were removed from the QEII Bridge yesterday JSO released a video of Marcus Decker lying in his hammock on top of the bridge. He said that he was up there ‘because our genocidal government needs to stop their terrible policy of allowing more fossil fuels’. Can you spot the lie?
(Totally OT: Grant Effing Shapps?! Doomed, I tell ye, we’re all doomed!)
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“Save energy by not turning clocks back in October, says expert
Prof Aoife Foley says it would remain light for part of energy peak between 5pm and 7pm, reducing household bills”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/19/scrap-turning-clocks-back-october-to-save-energy-says-expert
This is something I have long thought. It’s good that the anti-Brexit Guardian acknowledges that the freedom to do this didn’t exist while we were in the EU, and is a possible benefit of Brexit!
In the alternative, I don’t see why we have to wait until the end of March to put the clocks forward again. The clocks go back about 7 and a half weeks before the winter solstice. Putting them forward the same length of time beyond the winter solstice, would see BST start around the second weekend in February. Lighter evenings then, as well as saving energy use, might cheer us all up after winter.
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Green?
“Can floating turbines harvest the world’s wind?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63300959
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A valuable lesson on how to handle protests:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/19/late-night-schadenfreude/
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Ben Pile has an excellent thread on Twitter starting here
All his stuff is good, but this explained the abstruse economics of energy supply under green diktat better than anything I’ve seen.
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Buried away in the local newspaper in a tiny column, the Saltfleetby gas field has been reopened up reconnected to the grid and production step up to 5 million cubic feet per day, investment costs have already been repaid.
“Saltfleetby pumping out revenue equivalent to £1000 an hour 🤔 hour after hour 🤔 take care of the grands and the millions take care of themselves”
https://www.angusenergy.co.uk/what-we-do/saltfleetby-gas-field/
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BTW I found the other day that the normally excellent Ben Pile had blocked me on Twitter.
I regard blocking as running away which is something our side doesn’t do but libmob do
I looked Ben had tweeted that we should be open to Putin’s referendums in territory he has invaded
I thought any referendum no matter how independent couldn’t be trusted
and tweeted I wasn’t ready to side with Putin even if the other side weren’t super good either.
He blocked me
now my friend says Ben took my tweet as accusing him of being pro Putin.
I don’t get why our side sometimes take such offence instead of simply asking for clarification.
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BBC iPlayer seems to have just introduced double speed option
Last night’s local newsPR prog had an item
“Oh the horror this new pensioners housing estate has plastic front lawns.”
FFS its an area the size of a minibus
People should be free to do as they like.
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This is what it’s come to:
“UK homes can become virtual power plants to avoid outages
Fintan Slye
A National Grid director sets out plan to reward homes and businesses for using energy outside of peak hours”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/20/uk-homes-national-grid-virtual-power-plants-outages-electricity
No acknowledgement that this shambles has been years in the making. Instead Putin is the convenient excuse:
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Local ITV NewsPR end item was a massively contrived and honed Global Warming PR item
Sofa dolly #1 “So it rained a lot today, that’s extreme weather”
Weather dolly “Yes you are right there, and we’ll see more of that as predicted by Climate Change”
Sofa dolly #2 “Yes and here’s our reporter Astrid Quinn at the Youth Climate conference in Sheffield .. Chris Packham and celebs are there
Midway through the item mixed race girl Mickaela is brought on with “Climate Change activism it’s not just for white people”
Mickaela’s previous tweet
“This is a really exciting campaign 🔥🔥 abolishing borders is climate justice”
Why is a “Climate Conference” organised by a NGO called @DebtJustice ?
… https://www.twitter.com/mikaelaloach/status/1582759487626047488
.. Alinsky Marxist infiltration trickery ?
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” £3,000 per megawatt hour” are they tripping ?
Anyone could just power up their own mini-generator
come off the grid for a few hours
and their biodiesel cost might be £100 per megawatt hour £150 ?
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Mark – how do they spin this to “Businesses and homes can become virtual power plants”
all your power will be off, fridge, freezer etc. as soon as the power comes back on these will ramp up power usage.
Still, best prepare for the worst, moving my beer to the cold garage.
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dfhunter, how indeed?
The whole piece is ridiculous. It’s apparently OK to write this stuff, just as it was apparently OK for all those “green” retail energy suppliers (most of whom went bust) claiming that they supplied 100% renewable electricity.
Fact-checkers these days seem interested only in checking certain “facts”, while others get an easy ride.
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Now there’s a surprise….
“King Charles should attend climate summit says US envoy”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63350197
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“Proposals for Isle of Man’s first solar energy farm near Castletown”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-63343692
Some rudimentary calculations. £30m for “more than” 5% of the Isle of Man’s electricity demand, implies up to £600m for all its electricity demand (assuming, fancifully, that solar combined with battery storage could provide all its needs all the year round). Depending on who you believe, the population of the Isle of Man is between 85,000 and 86,000. So that works out at around £7,000 per capita. And note that this is just for current electricity demand, not for its energy requirements. This rather suggests that going net zero (again, making the heroic assumption that it’s possible) would cost 5-6 times that amount, or maybe £40,000 per capita, say £100,000 per household, assuming an average of 2.5 occupants of each household. Crazy, stark staring mad.
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Follow the money:
“Landowners call for scrapping of plans to ban solar energy from England’s farmland
Farmers say having solar sites allows them to subsidise food production during less successful years”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/22/landowners-call-for-scrapping-of-plans-to-ban-solar-energy-from-englands-farmland
And who are the CLA? This is from the history section of their website:
Just the type of people the Guardian normally loves! However, they’ve obviously learned how to get the Guardian on board. Their website now says things like:
Job done. Guardian favourable.
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Another of those unintended consequences?
“Copper supplies are dangerously low and can only cover less than 5 days of global demand, top commodities trader says”
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/copper-supply-outlook-inventory-shortage-5-days-global-demand-trafigura-2022-10
“Copper is an essential material that is purposed for use in machinery, smart phones, EV batteries, plumbing, and even wind turbines because of its ability to effectively conduct electricity. While the collapse of China’s property market has weighed on copper demand, the growth of renewable-energy technologies more than makes up for that and will drive supplies lower, Bintas said, noting that the European Union has accelerated its target for doubling solar energy capacity.
While there is so much attention being paid to the weakness in the real-estate sector in China, quietly, the demand for infrastructure, electric-vehicle-related copper demand, more than makes up for it,” he said, according to the Financial Times. “It actually not only cancels completely the real estate weakness, but also adds to their consumption growth increase.”
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The way science is supposed to happen:
https://retractionwatch.com/2022/10/11/a-display-of-extreme-academic-integrity-a-grad-student-who-found-a-key-error-praises-the-original-author/#more-125801
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https://babylonbee.com/news/leonardo-dicaprio-protests-climate-change-by-gluing-self-to-self
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Welcome to the “green” future:
“Tiny homes: Off-grid living allowed couple to take risks”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63304989
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And here’s more of our “green” future to look forward to:
“Blackouts: another dark consequence of Net Zero
Energy rationing is an integral feature of the green agenda.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/23/blackouts-another-dark-consequence-of-net-zero/
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When the chips are down, it’s always Deutschland uber alles:
“German parliament approves €200B energy relief plan
Industry and consumers are struggling with skyrocketing energy prices.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-e200-billion-energy-relief-plan-approved/
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Wow! Tom Nelson just keeps churning out those interviews. Just in the last couple weeks he’s had Joe Bastardi, Willie Soon, Ross McKitrick, Michael Kelly (the f-106 towline guy?) and Patrick Moore, among others.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfZS_wFmJCXqPr4MYtAIN6w/videos
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Strange video from Rebel news
Normally their Anglophone reporters are logical and expose Climate activists
Here Their French Canadian reporters traveled to Germany and report from the side of XR Climate Protesters
.. https://youtu.be/dyZGJY4-P58
The title they used is
‘A lot of people died because of air pollution, and nothing is done to take care of that’
#1 I didn’t see that topic mentioned in the video
#2 That’s not a climate topic.. it’s an antifossil fuel topic
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“Cop 27: Uganda-Tanzania oil pipeline sparks climate row”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-63212991
How dare they?!!!
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BBC Radio4 is completely devoid of agenda pushing today ../sarc
9:45am The Advertise Your Book for a week slot
*Greta’s new book*. (5 episodes)
10am Woman’s Hour
Artist and conservationist Sophie Green (In her paintings she highlights some of the planet’s most endangered animals)
Deepfake porn, British gymnastics
11am Follow the Dream : Mana Azaris was 14 when her parents told her of the plan to travel thousands of miles at the hands of smugglers to reach relatives in the UK. She reveals what’s happened since
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R4 in the afternoon
3:30pm The Food Programme : Wine in a Changing Climate
“As rising temperatures supercharge the UK wine industry, Jaega Wise finds out what this means for winegrowing at home and abroad, and the mixed blessing climate change presents.”
..bet in 6 months time, they’ll be moaning that frosts have killed vines
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Stew: ‘9:45am The Advertise Your Book for a week slot’
And get paid to do it. In the last commissioning round the Beeb paid publishers £2,650 per 13 1/2 minute episode.
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The Mail quotes someone saying that if XR had not the Dartford Bridge stunt. then 2 cars would have taken their normal route and thus not ended up in the accident where the 2 women drivers died.
Former Met detective chief inspector Mick Neville told the paper:
‘They may not have directly caused the M20 accident.
But had their irresponsible demo not taken place, the women and van driver would probably not have been there.’
blocking a highway has follow on consequences.
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It looks as though the Guardian isn’t too happy about the UN selecting Egypt as the host country for COP 27:
“Egypt shuts down event spaces on first Monday of Cop27 in blow to NGOs
Groups say cancellations could restrict debate as host country tightens security for opening days”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/24/egypt-shuts-down-event-spaces-on-first-monday-of-cop27-in-blow-to-ngos
On the other hand, as tens of thousands head off for their annual virtue-signalling holiday paid for by others, I’m sure most will be breathing a sigh of relief to find themselves in Sharm-el-Sheikh rather than Glasgow in November.
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“Mark Carney denies big banks threatened to quit climate finance group
Former BoE governor admits his net zero alliance weakened veto on coal investment because of ‘antitrust concerns’”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/oct/24/mark-carney-denies-big-banks-threatened-to-quit-climate-finance-group
What was that about stranded assets?
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https://www.brookfield.com/insights/operating-large-scale-container-terminals-out-four-key-ports
“Our Australian Ports Terminal portfolio comprises container terminals located in Australia’s four largest container ports, a regional city port, and storage, handling and logistics operations at more than 60 locations throughout Australia and New Zealand.”
found this link (have a look at the expanse of solar panels – “We are one of the world’s largest investors in renewable power, with approximately 24,000 megawatts of generating capacity. Our assets, located in North and South America, Europe, India and China, comprise a diverse technology base of hydro, wind, utility-scale solar, distributed generation, storage and other renewable technologies.
https://www.brookfield.com/sites/default/files/images/2019-10/TerraForm%20Case%20Study_tiny.png”
so, Carney is “a climate leader” now!!!
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What could possibly go wrong?
“Climate: Wales to set up publicly-owned renewable energy firm”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63392646
I note that opposition in politics to anything to do with net zero and reducing GHG emissions isn’t to question the wisdom of the policy, but consists instead of shouting “it’s not fast enough!”. And it doesn’t matter which party is in power – whichever is/are in opposition to the one in power will vie to be even more dogmatically pure.
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It’s all going so well:
“Wiltshire breaking green promises, campaigners say”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-63383700
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This article about an energy treaty most people have probably never heard of, is worth a read IMO:
“The world’s biggest dirty energy club is cracking up”
https://www.politico.eu/article/fossil-fuels-dirty-energy-charter-treaty-eu-guy-lentz/
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CrimeLondon is a righty blog but see how they regurgitate XR’s conspiracy theory that all the various Tufton St lobby groups are about and funded by Fossil Fuels
.. https://www.twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1584863787735080960
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9 a.m. BBC local radio news
“Climate change is affecting lives across the planet
A new report says that heat waves are causing deaths all around the world” paraphrase
..Em the obvious is that if the Earth was really getting hotter there would be a huge decrease in cold weather deaths
because generally people die more often from cold weather than from hot weather.
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See how that was a very short item
As if they did it to tick a box
I guess thhey mean a report from the Lancet’s alarmist Climate PR dept
.. https://www.twitter.com/LancetCountdown/status/1585037405836673025
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Oh there’s a UN study too
Anyone would think it’s part of the PR onslaught you get before a COP conference.
COP27: Climate change threatening global health – report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63386814
Would such a PR article happen to feature backlit chimneys to make the plumes look very dark and gloomy ?
.. Yep of course
Also two BBC tweets
“Heat killing many more Indians now, Lancet study finds”
“India heatwave: High temperatures killing more Indians now, Lancet study finds”
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Almost entire article
I’ll start with the main point which BBC hide at the end
In the 2016 inquest, Zane’s death was attributed by the coroner to carbon monoxide poisoning from a petrol-powered pump used to clear floodwater. His parents insist this was not in use.
A petition with 117,000 signatures which calls for a probe into the death of a seven-year-old boy has been handed to parliament.
Zane Gbangbola died in 2014 after his home in Chertsey, Surrey, was flooded.
His parents say he was killed by gases washed out of nearby land.
They disagree with an inquest in 2016 which said Zane’s death was accidental, and are calling for an independent panel inquiry to be set up.
They told the BBC “we will fight until we get the truth”.
Zane’s family and campaigners marched from College Green to Downing Street to deliver the petition on what would have been Zane’s 16th birthday.
Politicians including former Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, and former Green Party leader, Baroness Natalie Bennett, attended the march
as well as officials from the Fire Brigades Union.
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Wales wasting taxpayers money
bbc “Climate: Wales to set up publicly-owned renewable energy firm
Plans to set up a new publicly-owned renewable energy company have been announced by the Welsh government.
The plan is a UK first and will help tackle both the cost of living and climate crises, the Labour-run government said”
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RadioHumberside has these factoid trailers
one bit says “the Humber has the highest carbon dioxide emissions of any region in the UK”
That seems suspicious
(Update it was PR trickery .. it’s NOT about actual UK manmade CO2 of 340m tonnes
And it’s NOT actual region
rather it’s CO2 from 6 selected/cherrypicked “industrial clusters”
They say Humber cluster is 12m tonnes
yet fail to give the context that is only about 3% of total UK manmade CO2)
I only see one source saying that
An alarmist prof writing in Yorkshire Post to promote his the Waterline climate Summit is important – Dave Petley, University of Hull
On Twitter only 2 tweets make the claim
One is a PR org
the other is a scraper news-site
So there’s been no proper discussion.
The key is that no numbers are given , that indicates it’s PR
Now the Humber does have power stations at Keadby and Immingham , and Scunthorpe steelworks and The Conoco oil refinery
South Ferriby cement works was shut
You could bump up figures by including Drax wood emissions, but are supposed to be counted as zero.
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I just found a few extra tweets linked to a Hull University Green PR centre
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%22Humber%22%20%40_aurainnovation%20CO2%20&src=typed_query&f=live
They make this claim
“Did you know that the Humber is responsible for around 37% of CO2 emissions in the UK”
One of the tweets is from FoE it gives a link but the document is 70Mb
OK I got numbers, it comes from stats torturing using cherrypicking and language trickery
They don’t mean actual CO2 emissions, cos first they discount all natural emissions.
Then they cherry pick only “industrial clusters”
Not ALL UK industry , but rather 6 industrial clusters.
Then they say that the Humber is the biggest of that
“The Humber is the UK’s largest cluster by industrial emissions, emitting more than 12 million tonnes of CO2 per year (or 37% of emissions from the UK’s six largest industrial clusters)
Now ONS say
2021″Carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions in the UK are, to 341.5 million tonnes (Mt), and total greenhouse gas emissions by 4.7% to 424.5 million tonnes carbon dioxide equivalent (MtCO2e).
So Humber Industrial cluster accounts for about 3% of UK emissions
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“Skeeby solar farm should go ahead, say planners”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-63389342
Further down the report, we read:
The plan is also opposed by Richmond Town Council and Easby, Brompton-on-Swale and Skeeby parish councils. But still:
I am no fracking fanboy, though I think it may have a limited role to play where the geology is right, to help us achieve energy security and lower energy prices. The big question, though, is why renewables get the green light even in the face of local opposition, while fracking can only even be considered in the unlikely event that the local community supports it?
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PMs constituency?
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Also posted on bBbC and NotAlot
Of course BBC Science us about delighting Greenpeace.
They are chuffed with the BBC-FUTURE article
… https://www.twitter.com/Greenpeace/status/1584786835737395201
BBC spit in your face again
They take money from the whole of the public, and use their special platform to push their own pet agendas
BBC-Future #ImpartialMyAss
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OK here’s a summary then
10:47am trailer for the Kofi Smiles breakfast show
Kofi “We’ll be here to bring you all the info you need to know”
Female voice “The Humber emits more CO2 than any other region in the UK
And it’s therefore critical that we all come together and lead the way to tackle the threats of climate change”
So that is a misleading POLITICAL CAMPAIGNING claim in a BBC trailer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0d3r34c
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Stew, Aura Innovation’s “Did you know that the Humber is responsible for around 37% of CO2 emissions in the UK?” is, er, innovative. It’s a misreprentation of stats shown on a map in a 2018 government infographic. Available here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/industrial-strategy-the-grand-challenges
That gave the annual emissions from large industrial sites (but prolly not power stations) in six areas of the UK with lots of industry – six industrial clusters. 37% was the Humber cluster’s share of the total for all six clusters in… 2017? 2016? Earlier?
As the stats excluded some industry within the six clusters and all industry elsewhere in the UK, Humber’s share of the UK’s industrial emissions would have been a lot less than 37%.
The Humber cluster area’s share of total UK emissions? Dunno. 5%?
*
I don’t know how to describe Aura. Here’s how it describes itself:
I see. At the forefront of innovation through outstanding innovation. (Innovation got three mentions – five if you count synonyms – but where are the synergies, three-legged stools and toolkits for mobilizing excellence?)
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Insulate Britain says that earlier this month a judge found Diana Warner not guilty of wilfully obstructing the M25 during an IB protest because such protests are ‘PROPORTIONATE to the crises we are facing’.
(That pic shows Ben Buse, Diana Warner, Sue Parfitt and Steve Gower.)
I can’t find a news report of Warner’s (latest) trial but judges and magistrates have made many similar rulings in the last few years, so IB’s claim is probably true.
Warner, a retired GP, was at lots of protests last year,* so it’s hard to be sure which protest Warner was on trial for this time, but it was probably this one:
Was the judge truly aware of all of the ‘crises we are facing’?
Was it proportionate to block the M25 as a way of drawing attention to that particular crisis, Your Honour?
===
*Warner has been protesting for decades. All the usual things. I think her first arrest was at Faslane in 2006. Which was about the last time I saw a GP, as it happens.
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stew – from your tweet link – “Janet Thorne @janetthorne
Replying to @annajanejoyner @beccawarner and 2 others
“This feels so important. The strange absence of climate change in films / TV / novels is a powerful source of our collective cultural denial. If it was there, in every day story lines, people would see it in place and in proportion”
what!!! don’t they watch BBC news & Docs, every chance they hit you with it.
as for novels, try “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” – “the last surviving man, Arthur Dent, following the demolition of the Earth by a Vogon constructor fleet to make way for a hyperspace bypass”
seems plausible in a mad world.
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You can usually tell when we approach a COP meeting from the increased frequency that climate change items infest the media and from the increased hysteria of those items. These bang the drums that there is absolutely no question whatsoever that humans are causing massive climate change and that the scale of future change will be devastating. All sorts of restrictions are proposed; changes that previously would have been opposed by most as totally anti-social. We seem to be almost at the point where draconian changes are likely to be adopted to prevent these unfounded fears.
I was worried by these changes before the Glasgow COP 26, but they seem to have ramped up even more now, just before COP 27 in Egypt.
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It seems you’re fracked if you do and fracked if you don’t:
“Fracking fury: Industry body hammers Sunak after shale gas U-turn”
Charles McAllister, director of policy for UK Onshore Oil and Gas (UKOOG), warned banning fracking would risk the UK being reliant on imported supplies for a decades – undermining supply security and ramping up emissions.
“If reports are accurate, then a decision has been made to lock the UK into reliance on imported gas for decades. The geopolitical, environmental and economic consequences of such a decision will last far beyond the two years remaining of this parliament.”
https://www.cityam.com/fracking-fury-industry-body-hammers-sunak-after-shale-gas-u-turn/
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Opening item on local news
“Why the political world is turning against onshore wind”
crafted item from Sarah Sanderson
First voice pro onshore wind local councillor at Rousse (spelling)wind farm
Now Melanie Onn head of PR group Renewables UK
Now Herb Eppel head of pro wind farm org
Presenter falsely states “they are the cheapest form of energy bar none”
Eppel “people like they them, they get built and ignored
all surveys show that people like them”
Presenter ended the item and then suddenly came back with more big wind farm PR
“You I was looking the other day and wind was producing 40%
that’s four times more than nuclear power”
… FFS does anyone actually talk like that ?
it sounds like someone has fed him that PR line
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And they wonder why there’s a problem with fly-tipping:
“Slough: Charges set to come in to dump DIY waste”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-63410247
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There seems to be no sense of irony in attributing to, and describing as, pleasantly warm autumn weather as “climate crisis”.
“Climate crisis fuelling unseasonably warm October in UK and Europe, say experts
Temperatures expected to hit 20C in UK, Germany and France this weekend”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/27/climate-crisis-fuelling-unseasonably-warm-october-in-uk-and-europe-say-experts
You might think they would be pleased that people can delay putting on their heating in the midst of an energy and cost of living crisis, but then that would be to admit that warmer weather can have benefits, and that would never do. And it seems a bit of a stretch to attribute this to “climate change” anyway:
By the way, there is no sign of 20C where I live, and the log burner is on this evening.
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“Massive Increase in Greenland Surface Ice Sheet Suggests Possible Overall Gain in 2022”
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/27/massive-increase-in-greenland-surface-ice-sheet-suggests-possible-overall-gain-in-2022/
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Are we making a difference on the culture? The Simpsons are going after big wind. I’d’f thought Lisa would be a Greta groupie. It looks like smart is being redefined:
history
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Mark Jacobson is losing his grip. He’s looking haggard and forgetting to shave. No, there’s NOT enough hydro! Lake Mead and the water behind China’s Three Gorges dam are drying up:
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I see channel 5 have a prog at 9pm tonight 28th titled –
“Building the Impossible – the story of the British Oil Industry through it’s incredible engineering”
should be interesting to see how balanced it is, but the blurb sounds like they will at least be unbiased.
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Thanks to Mike for the reminder, I’ve just watched the Tom Nelson episode with Ross McKitrick. The first half is a trip down memory lane for those of us who were spectators at the time. Towards the end Ross makes some interesting predictions about Net Zero, the future of climate alarmism and mainstream climate science.
A mere 844 views so far on the toob (I listened on Spotify).
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I took a glance and didn’t spot green PR
The BBC could’ve made progs like this years ago.
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Local council events page is pushing me towards their “Green Tourism Toolkit”
A long page filled with buzzwords
https://business.visitlincolnshire.com/resources/green-tourism-toolkit/
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Almost everything in green politics is wrong
cos their framework is flawed
In the proper world we have the scientific method, peer review, open debate, policies with cost/benefit analysis, business that goes ahead cos it makes profit under it’s own steam
We have democracy “they who have to PAY get a SAY”
In the green-world we first get dogma eg “nuclear is bad”
We don’t get proper scientific method we get rigged science that’s pal-reviewed
Instead of open debate, their first instinct is to shut out opposition voices and bull their way through
Green policies seem exempt from cost/benefit analysis.
Green business doesn’t make profit under its own steam. Rather it relies on rigging the market banning its competition, getting a range of subsidies like priority market access.
They don’t have democracy, except for fake democracy of rigged Soviet style climate councils
They who PAY do not get a SAY rather policies are imposed on them
They are banned from owning petrol cars, gas boiler, from flying etc .
Look at they first banned nuclear investment and now say their is too much use of gas.
Well if you hadn’t banned nuclear in the first place.
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“When Will Climate ‘Fact Checkers’ Stop Pretending Honest Differences of Opinion Are Factual Errors?”
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/29/when-will-climate-fact-checkers-stop-pretending-honest-differences-of-opinion-are-factual-errors/
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H/T to chriskshaw over at NALOPKT for this link to Andy May vid – https://youtu.be/6aNkmXArlZk
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BBC local news did a gotcha interview against the Climate Minister Graham Stuart
#1 You said you supported fracking , now you say you don’t?
GS “Ah you see Truss said local communities must agree and you can see the Conservative led East Yorkshire Council said they would oppose it”
#2 Oh Sunak doesn’t care won’t go to Egypt
GS lists loads of MPs & flunkies who are going
they put up a clip https://www.twitter.com/iredalepolitics/status/1586046064527904771
Then they said the 10am Politics North BBC1 show, will be yet another Green Energy special
guests listed : Holly Lynch MP and Graham Stuart MP
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9am RadioHumberside was making a remarkable claim
parroting a YorkshireWater tweet.
“·Oct 26
Our reservoir levels are now around 40%, and whilst it’s great news that the levels are slowly increasing, sadly it’s not enough.
This time last year our stocks were at 72% so we’ve still got quite a bit to go before we can lift the ban.🧵(2/6)”
.. https://www.twitter.com/YorkshireWater/status/1585267253813149697
I find that difficult to take at face value at the end of the drought it was about 40% , now after a lot of rain they claim it’s still only 40%.
OK after a drought the land above the reservoir would soak up more than normal so run off would be smaller, but that was ages ago now.
Sometimes water corps have a chain of reservoirs
and they top up the bottom one most leaving the top one low etc.
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Greenies fighting among themselves now, it seems:
“Greenpeace accused of greenwashing Egypt’s image ahead of Cop27”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/30/greenpeace-egypt-greenwashing-cop27
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Greta is live on youtube at the moment launching her new book. I’m one of 343 people watching it. Join me & lets make Cliscep 3-10% of her viewers
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6pm ITV local newsPR item where Chris Packham rails about UK filtering out bad old EU environment laws
it was probably recorded weeks ago, cos he he’s been doing the circuit
eg
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Thanks Mike & Jit for the “Tom Nelson episode with Ross McKitrick” above.
well worth a watch.
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XR protester Maddie Budd had an awful segment in GBnews
let off by the courts for excrementing the Tom Moore statue
she came across as mentally ill
video : https://www.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1587208914852278272
So should not have passed a risk assessment to appear
Is Maddie exploiting Captain Tom for PR ?
Actually seems like GreenSupremacist puppetmasters
are EXPLOITING mentally ill Maddie Budd
Just like the Taliban sent off mentally ill people with suicide bombs
BTW Maddie is also the one who sets fire to her arm
However that is a SAFE theatrical stunt
But that should not be aired on social media
cos it encourages UNSAFE copying by kids
Who will be the first direct victim of XR protests
.. an XR martyr bashed by a frustrated motorist
or a bystander, ambulance patient ?
Hallam and Gayles taking it to the line is going to cause some mentally ill XR person to take it over the line .. they could well be the victim
Yet it will be spun anyway that they are a martyr
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Seriously?
“How solar farms in space might beam electricity to Earth”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62636746
In theory perhaps – my money’s on not in practice. Perhaps inevitably:
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Why I still can’t vote Labour (part 23):
“Climate crisis battle an ‘opportunity’ for working people, says Starmer
Labour leader sets out industrial plan including £28bn-a-year investment strategy at SME4Labour dinner”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/31/climate-crisis-battle-an-opportunity-for-working-people-says-starmer
Worth a read to see the delusional nature of Labour’s pitch at the next election.
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“How did Britishvolt go from charged startup to ‘life support’ patient?
Proposed Blyth battery factory attracted serious backers despite founders’ lack of expertise”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/01/how-did-britishvolt-go-from-charged-startup-to-life-support-patient
These things happen when politicians are all too keen to splash taxpayers’ cash on “green” projects.
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Behind a paywall, unfortunately:
“Students suffering ‘grief’ over climate change offered support sessions” – The University of East Anglia says living close to the eroding Norfolk coast can be hard, as it employs “mindfulness techniques for resilience”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/31/university-offers-eco-anxiety-course-students-depressed-climate/
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““There is no Climate Emergency”: Hundreds More Sign the World Climate Declaration, Including 20 Professors”
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/31/there-is-no-climate-emergency-hundreds-more-sign-the-world-climate-declaration-including-20-professors/
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“Snowdonia bird populations hit by visitor influx – survey”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63469494
Well, that surprised me. What – not climate change? Oh hang on –
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However, you can read a lengthy transcript at Paul Homewood’s place:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/11/01/students-suffering-grief-over-climate-change-offered-support-sessions/
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“Electric ferries proposed for Corran route”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c030ed0l64go
For once, this might not be completely stupid. The Corran Ferry route involves only a 5 minutes journey each way across Loch Linnhe.
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“Congo peatlands dried out 5,000 years ago – researchers”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science_and_environment
at 5.24pm today (there’s no separate link).
Of course, it’s a call to arms. However, it doesn’t explain how that occurred naturally 5,000 years ago, while everything today is caused by us; nor does it explain how that sort of thing wasn’t a tipping-point then but is now.
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Inevitably, the Guardian has the same story – in more detail, but equally lacking in any explanation regarding the points I mentioned in my last comment:
“‘Carbon timebomb’: climate crisis threatens to destroy Congo peatlands
Vast carbon store may be close to point where it could flip from absorbing CO2 to releasing it, research shows”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/02/carbon-timebomb-climate-crisis-threatens-to-destroy-congo-peatlands
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Alan K,
If you can read this article and respond, I’d be very interested in your take on it:
“Fossil fuel burning once caused a mass extinction – now we’re risking another”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/03/fossil-fuel-burning-mass-extinction-devonian-coastline
It looks like adding 2 + 2 and making 5 to me.
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The NHS is short of money ..runs the narrative
Well they just sent my neighbour this message out to his charity.
“You are invited to apply for regional *green award*
There is total funding of £50,000 available to be split between all award winners.
The Sheep Shed green award programme is funded by the regional Health and Care Partnership (NHS)
The awards are designed to promote *sustainable* practice within the region and aim to help progress carbon reduction projects into action.”
So apply for NHS award money by making us some BS excuse like ..”oh the funding will help us paint the door green”
FFS The whole point of *sustainable* is that it sustains itself
..ie it saves money ..so should NOT need grants.
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“Money-off energy scheme launches to avoid blackouts”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63483668
The National Grid can give it whatever euphemistic title it likes. I call it rationing for poor people. And this is what we’ve been reduced to by a failed energy system. Thanks, renewables. As for this:
There’s a fabulous irony in the final sentence:
As for backing Britain, I think that would best be done by providing us with reliable, secure and cheap energy. They’ve failed on all counts, and jobs have gone abroad to jurisdictions with cheaper (but more CO2-intensive) energy supplies. Well done!
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I think it’s fair to say that those in charge of our energy policy have failed us appallingly:
“Power struggles: UK companies gear up for winter blackouts
From backup generators to empty offices on standby, bosses are preparing for worst-case scenarios”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/04/power-struggles-companies-winter-blackouts-uk-generators
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9am on @RadioHumberside news opening item
GMB union guy commenting on letter from Shadow industry minister Bill Esterton Labour MP saying, we have to save British Steel
cos otherwise we’ll be importing steel that is powered by coal
RH dropped it from 10am news, probably cos they are GreenCultists
It’s to do with Andy Prendergast, @GMB_union National Secretary appearance on RH yesterday
5:09pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d4q2tp
Ah in his letter Esterton says if Labour chuck £3bn at British Steel it will get Green Steel working
He doesn’t say the green steel will be expensive.
GMB guy spoke about
#1 Today’s energy being super expensive for steel industry
#2 Funding needed to overhaul steel industry to make it “green”
Conversation OMITTED
– The hydrogen & CCS project, that the government already has started construction of with the Hull to Scunthorpe to Drax hydrogen pipelines
– Dogmatic greens banning new UK coking coal mine, so forcing coal imports.
(The hydrogen to make this green steel will comes from gas so emits CO2, but they reckon the next stage will be CCS)
Tweet includes letter (The reporter screwed up the radio link, I gave the correct one above)
.. https://www.twitter.com/NajModakBBC/status/1588555663374168070
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GMB guy talked at length about banning steel imports by making “local content” rules,
“The US does that”
Doh. it’s impossible if we are in the EU
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A village around here has reopened its oil well
The community fund this year is £100K
that’s around £20 per resident
https://thisisbcsa.co.uk/communityfundlaunched/
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That grant’s at least twice as big as the Straw power station used to give
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On “green steel”, afaik it’s still very much in development. I’ve read about a small pilot project in Sweden. There’s a long way to go to prove the process at scale….and then there’s the cost issue. I have not seen any figures so I’m guessing but, given the cost of green hydrogen, I would not be surprised to see the cost of green steel being a multiple of the existing product.
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I spotted an economist angrily tweeting, how dare Neil Oliver say an ice cap is growing
The guy seems unaware that this years Greenland cap is higher than last years.
When I challenge him he searches for stuff on the NASA website.
I know that website is a PR operation providing simplistic PR aimed at children
So far the guy is mixing up sea ice with ice caps etc.
But I see the NASA page he should’ve used.
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/
What do people reckon ?
The NASA graphs seem to good to be true.
#1 You can see this year’s rise in ice then a slight downtick
which still leaves ice higher than last year
#2 Both graphs have an empty gap in the middle
#3 If they comes from GRACE gravity measurements then the data is modelling that doesn’t take background changes in gravity due to other factors.
I’m not aux fait with Antarctic cap levels .. I thought they were growing slowly
The NASA graph shows a perfect down trend
I see one paper Antarctic models dont replicate actual observations.
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I suppose one issue is the Danish institute could be measuring X-ice extent
whereas NASA models are about Y ice-mass
Ice mass should actually always be falling year on year on average
cos if it wasn’t that would mean we are going into an ice age.
So it’s perfectly possible for ice extent to rise in a year
and someone to say ..see the ice cap grew
And someone else to say the mass fell so the cap shrunk.
If I look at the Nasa Graphs it does appear to be a downward trend but you can see it blips up in some years
https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/key-indicators/antarctica
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Labour MP Simon Danczuk said
“of course it was democratic
all the parties had it in their manifestos
and the party that won had it in their manifesto”
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“Isle of Man Steam Packet fears wind farm plans may disrupt UK routes”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-63543520
Dismissing concerns doesn’t sound much like consulting!
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“Energy crisis? What energy crisis?
Politicians need to come clean about the high price we have paid for embracing ‘green energy’.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/11/08/energy-crisis-what-energy-crisis/
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Mike, Monbiot should not do science. He falls in love with a hypothesis, ignores contrary evidence and accepts any old evidence that supports his message. His message is that CO2 is bad, everywhere and every time. Much of the much vaughnted end Permian extinction took place within the Permian – the end Guadalupian event (before any CO2 or event). It is true that over much of the world marine conditions were replaced by desert conditions and this requires some explanation but CO2 won’t do it.
Speculation about the Deccan Traps has been endless but the idea that these were able to prevent outflow of lavas so that intrusions became predominant is a new one on me. If intrusions into coals and such created CO2 there should be evidence for this. I know there is an isotopic shift in carbon at this time but no longer have the wit to interpret that.
Sorry not to be more helpful but concoctions like Monmiot’s I normally consider as COD science and ignore. Products of minds exposed to too much CO2
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Mark – re ““Isle of Man Steam Packet fears wind farm plans may disrupt UK routes”
worth a read & even only an illustration, as they say “A picture is worth a thousand words” – https://www.steam-packet.com/blog/potential-wind-farm-projects-the-full-picture/
will try to link to the image –

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thinking about all these windfarms made we wonder what impact each turbine has on the seabed.
not directly relevant –
https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/methane-hydrates-and-contemporary-climate-change-24314790/
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That was then (2015):
“THIRSTY COUNTRY: CLIMATE CHANGE AND DROUGHT IN AUSTRALIA”
https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/droughtreport2015/
This is now:
“Once a comfort, rain is now ruining Australia’s mood”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-63382895
Tricky business, climate change.
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I had a dream, I was sitting next to the central door, the exit door on a crowded bus
The bus stopped and a load of people with placards got up
“We are going to the XR demo”
..Me “no you are not cos I’m doing a blockade protest at this door.”
When they got point I relented
I did formulate an essay but no time to write it
Green bullies get the Reward
We get the responsibility
They dictate
and we pay
How come they walk away with freedom
There should be a system where if they take freedoms from us. freedoms are taken away from them
banned from flying gor a year or from concerts etc.
Someone says how come the miners proteste were stopped
but the XR ones aren’t.
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Radio Lincolnshire and local TV news did a big report
about a school near Grimsby going green
It’s not on gas grid so spends £31K year on oil now
that £150/day for 200 school days
ie it must be £300/day for winter
Oh we got a grant for £422K and a top money to spend £500K on a ground source heat pump and 300 solar panels
So we’ll save £21K per year
em that’s a long payback of 25 years
and I suspect world oil will be cheap in a couple of years anywaty
The whole item was fully enthusiastic like an advert by the school people.
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“Actor changes his name to Rainnfall Heat Wave Extreme Weather Wilson as climate protest
The Office star Rainn Wilson announces he has changed his name to raise awareness of Arctic weather changes”
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/10/actor-changes-his-name-to-rainnfall-heat-wave-extreme-weather-wilson-as-climate-protest
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Surprising Dale Vince can’t sell his corp
cos he is locked into Gazprom contracts.
“Dale Vince said Ecotricity would ‘see the contract through’ with Russian majority state-owned energy giant Gazprom ‘and then move on’.”
https://www.soglos.com/news/business/turnover-reaches-240-million-at-ecotricity-as-it-looks-to-sever-russian-ties/17522
That has caused him to stop the sale of his company
https://stroudtimes.com/unplugged-dale-vince-halts-ecotricity-sale/
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Stew – from your 2 links, I read –
“By Andrew Merrell | Published Monday 21 March 2022
… Asif Rehmanwala, chief executive officer at Ecotricity, said: ‘Turnover for the year increased by 7.9 per cent to £239,774,239 as the business continues to grow its customer base.
… In a statement he said Ecotricity had an existing trading relationship with Russian gas giant Gazprom, but risked penalties approaching £10 million if it broke that contract now.”
“By Ashley Loveridge October 29, 2022
…The green energy industrialist and owner of Forest Green Rovers previously announced his decision to sell the Stroud-based company on April 1….told Utility Week the sales process was now “on the shelf” following the continuing turmoil created by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
Ecotricity employs more than 800 people and his company boasted more than a £300m turnover this year.”
so, Vince is a “green energy industrialist”. a new breed.
from Ecotricity website –
“Welcome to Britain’s greenest energy company. All our electricity is certified green, and also certified vegan. Our gas is a mix of carbon-neutralised natural gas and sustainable green gas.”
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There’s much talk about “climate reparations” flying around at COP 27. However, the suggestion that we take responsibility for historic emissions misses a key point: who were the beneficiaries of the products that generated those emissions?
For much of the industrial period we were the “workshop of the world”, much as China is today. In the same way as we now look at “imported emissions”, all those countries that took our exports should accept that the associated emissions belong on their own account.
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Lord Deben on ITV in the story “Unban onshore wind, Labour will do that”
BBC carry the same story.
UK Media work very closely with #GreenBlob PR
Onshore wind is NOT banned
If a person or corp has a big patch of land they could put them up
They don’t cos they are angling for bigger SUBSIDIES
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There’s an ITV video
https://m.facebook.com/groups/ScotlandAgainstSpin/permalink/6266537443375265/
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There’s propaganda:
“Warmest Armistice Day ever for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland
Three UK countries ‘way above where we should be for this time of year’ says Met Office forecaster”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/11/warmest-armistice-day-ever-for-england-scotland-and-northern-ireland
And (for once) there’s straight reporting from the BBC:
“Why is the weather so warm this November?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63597025
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Of course, weather is just weather, but on the day after the Guardian propaganda piece around the mild autumn in the UK, this is more than a little ironic:
“Weather tracker: unusual cold and snow spreading across North America
Azure Prior for Metdesk
Temperatures in Canada dropped by as much as 20C below normal this week”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/12/weather-tracker-unusual-cold-and-snow-spreading-across-north-america
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Climate Policy = a 40 year AUSTERITY programme
I think that is a good analogy I thought up
Labour think that 12 years of Tories actually increasing NHS spending is austerity
yet they think imposing £2 trillion of Climate Policy costs it a good thing
I can list other Austerities.
– Energy Independence Austerity is when you ban new oil/gas fields thus depriving the UK of energy independence , thus meaning we have to buy on world markets, and endure price blips
whilst at the same time depriving the UK of mininig taxes
– That connects to Currency Exchange Austerity we’ve got, cos we have to sell £s to buy dollars to buy gas ..tgat makes the £ fall and all imports cost more
– Immigration Austerity is when we piss away money putting Albanians in 4 star hotels , thus depriving the taxpayer
British currently have a retirement age of 67 , bet it needs to go up to 75 to pay for these policies
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Moved post
GBnews 8pm Steyn. and Dan Wootton mostly very good these days
Total anti Green Policy
“it’s a gigantic scam they shout”
DW had 2 XR people on .. they’re mentally ill
and said ridiculous things
video tweet
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Mark’s Reply
stewgreen, I think there is a strong argument (and I say this after some considerable thought, and not flippantly) to the effect that at least some of the XR/Just Stop Oil protestors could (and arguably should) be detained under the Mental Health Act, for their own protection and for the protection of the public.
When you watch and listen to some of them, they are either acting or they truly are mentally ill..
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That would be a good point
but the rules are
White Man does something bad it’s WhiteManBad
Johnny Foreigner does something bad .. it’s WhiteManBad too
It’s always Whitey’s fault
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Weather is just weather, of course, but still…
“Weather tracker: after Hurricane Nicole, more turbulence to hit Europe and Australia
Faye Hulton (Metdesk)
Unsettled weather to continue across western Europe and southern Australia forecast to experience unseasonably cold spell”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/14/weather-tracker-after-hurricane-nicole-more-turbulence-to-hit-europe-and-australia
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Almost every time I switch on media, I get some kind if FakeNews pushed at me
The 12pm consumer show talked to solar panel customers who thought they had won. The prog never mentioned that his feed in tariff was greatly subsidised by other consumers
Then 11am Radio4 documentary talked to an unemployed miner about the planned Cumbria coking coal mine
The the presenter SamPeach starts making his questions about fossil fuels
“There seems to be more of a drive to increase extraction here in the UK
methods like fracking,
how do you think that affects the mine’s chances ?
Next question “Look there’ll be of people that point out this mine is going to damage the environment by *increasing* fossil fuel usage
Do you think it would be better to invest the money in renewable energy perhaps”
Miner replies “Wind solar power we can’t get our energy from that
we need this mine to make steel to make wind turbine towers”
Fossil fuels are APPLES
and coking coal is MARMALADE
The mine isn’t going to INCREASE fossil fuel use, it’s just an alternative source of coal as an ingredient in steelmaking
Without it the same steel will be made with coal from elsewhere
(Or sometime deep in the future from less coal, cos of new hydrogen tech, that will also increase costs.)
The mine is not using taxpayers money.
If the private investors took their money and invested their money in renewables , it will not change the scenario about how much CO2 world steel emits.
Just the same as banning marmalade doesn’t affect the amount of apples sold.
Does the drive to open fracking affect the mine, yes cos it reflects more logic in government
If they are logical on fracking they’ll be more logical on coking coal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001f4z3
Next was an activist against the mine I couldn’t bear to listen to that bit.
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It’s a funny old world when a country illegally invaded by another, which commits war crimes and seeks illegally to annex parts of the country it’s invaded, feels it’s better placed to attack the invader by criticising its climate change implications rather than any of the crimes committed:
“COP27: War causing huge release of climate warming gas, claims Ukraine”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63625693
It’s also rather odd that a country fighting for its very existence still seems to think it’s important to send a delegation to COP27. If the UN was a more effective organisation, it wouldn’t be the greenhouse gases emitted by the Russia-Ukraine war that it finds most worrisome.
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The alarmists have hit on a new way of announcing ever more records – find a daily record, rather than an annual, seasonal or even monthly one. If you think about it, going for daily records (and let’s say picking on heat, cold, rain and wind) gives you 365 x 4 – 1,460 possible records every year. If you go further, and get really clever, going for that in each of the constituent nations in the UK, you get 5,840 shots at a weather record each year.
“UK’s warmest ever Remembrance Sunday recorded”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63611161
A focus on seasonal or monthly records wouldn’t have produced that headline. For example:
“Weather: Why are Wales’ November nights so mild?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-63601963
Almost – but not – beaten. 1938 still holds the record, for “this time of year”, by which (although it’s not explained) I assume they mean either autumn, or more likely November. Wales also holds the record for the warmest November day, but it wasn’t set this November, rather it dates back to 2015:
“UK records warmest November day
Temperatures reached 22.3C (72.1F) in Trawsgoed, Wales, surpassing Barcelona and the Algarve”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/01/uk-records-warmest-november-day-says-met-office
So, no November records broken this year, unless you home in on individual days.
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Please could someone explain what is meant by “hindcasting” wrt climate models?
Does it mean working back from today to see if the models’ results match history/
Or do they start from some point in the past and then check if the models’ come to today’s conditions?
Thanks.
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Mike. Wikipedia has a short definition (under “backcasting”) and numerous more specialised references. Hope these answer your question more specifically.
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What’s your posh climate activist name?
Mine is Sebastian Carrot.
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Thanks Alan – query answered!
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Here’s yet another of Roger Hallam’s lengthy doomwanks:
This one is called ‘Why Disrupt the Public as we face the Final Death Project’. Uploaded on 4/11/22. 109 minutes.
He doesn’t look at all well in this one. Slow, perhaps some slurring, even more incoherent than usual. I think Hallam has said that he doesn’t take drugs. Perhaps he was introduced to them during his most recent jail term.
Anyway…
I had the video on in the background for a while then switched it off when Hallam finally said something bonkers that’s actually interesting – something that’s bonkers in a new way (starting at ~10m30s):
What is the situation?
Well, the technical, physical situation – the one favoured by the big corporations that invented the phrase ‘climate change’ – is like burying an axe in a head. Hallam points at a weird diagram and says climate is the axe and the head is… not sure. Possibly also the climate.
Not for me, mate. Sorry. Enough gibberish for one day.
But get well soon, eh? (And please don’t murder anyone.)
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Duplicating what I just wrote on Homewoods article about the Pakistan one third underwater myth.
Sorry drilling down to the truth takes time so I have to adjust to timeline
#1 Around Aug 27 at least 3 accounts tweeted that it seemed one third was underwater
#2 Aug 29 morning
Guardian : “Pakistan … monsoon COULD put a third of country underwater”
a line it attributed “climate minister (Sherry Rehman)
warned that one-third of Pakistan *could* be underwater by the time this year’s “monster monsoon” recedes”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/29/pakistan-floods-plea-for-help-amid-fears-monsoon-could-put-a-third-of-country-underwater
(Jess Phillips tweeted that Guardian headline)
#3 Aug 29th lunchtime : Sherry Rehman is appearing on various media saying
“Now MORE that a third of Pakistan is underwater”
and she tweeted it in words
.. https://www.twitter.com/sherryrehman/status/1564225435386482689
So it was not a one off mistake, she said on multiple networks
Then media all ran with that phrase
A few days later on other TV another minister repeated it
#4 Then the legend was established and the usual lefty activists inc BBCnews have parroted ever since
.. Whereas other people said from the beginning it was false, but course the flooding was bad enough to need lots of aid.
So it seems to me the “one third” narrative was around, probably in the Climate Minister’s office first with “could”.
Then they realised it had great fund raising potential.
“More than a third” came out somehow on 29th lunchtime broadcasts, and she just stuck with it.
As I said in ClimateCult world PR-STORYTELLING
counts more than truth.
… Hockey stick graphs, power phrases like “Climate Crisis. “Extreme weather”, “Climate Deniers”, etc
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There’s more she immediately replied to her own tweet and made another claim
“One small town in Sindh received over 1700 MM of rain in one day”
FakeNews actually that day the year tally reached 1700mm
The day after she did FakeNews went on Channel4
saying Imran Khan was a baddie cos his telethon was just for his 2 states.
His supporters screamed liar at her on Twitter, cos it was actually a full national telethon.
So seems she is steeped FakeNews world
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Ponzi and Climate threads are very similar
Someone pumps it
Theh the replies are 95% TrueBelievers
only 2 or 3 skeptics call it out.
See my Twitter for examples in the FTX crypto scam
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4pm Media Show Radio4 still sounding like Labour Student common room
No skeptics are on
– Opens with Guardian journo Fiona, live from COP
– Then Richard Feldgate the XR journo pretending to be a journo
.. prog doesn’t mention his XR affiliation
He just mentioned being charged for being at the blockade newspaper factory a few years ago
..but Razzal took him at face value, when she should have said “You are XR , aren’t you ?”
– Now Cameron Ford the XR Insulate Britain protester
they played the one fail by Mike Graham when he tried to say tree growing is same as concrete growing ..
Katie Razzal is softballing Cameron as if he is her mate.
Wolfgang Blau @wblau tweeted
Today’s media show on @BBCRadio4
will be about the future (and challenging present) of climate journalism.
4.30 p.m. UK time. With yours truly
(Managing Partner, Climate Hub, The Brunswick Group. Co-Founder, Oxford Climate Journalism Network. Mastodon )
The whole prog is taking the XR line
There are no contesting/skeptic voices.
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Guardian journo just ran off of a load of hyperbolic alarmist lines
and falsely said “I’m reporting the FACTS
… scientists say”
That’s cheating science doesn’t say, nor all scientists
just a few scientists she would cherrypick.
Wolfgang has just said Fiona’s frontpage is activism , so is wrong
She said “it’s very important to use scare words Climate Crisis/breakdown/emergency Global Heating etc.”
BBC guy “we don’t give too much weight to outliers, they are not worth listening to”
That’s the small boy fallacy ..that outlier proved the Emperor’s tailors was wrong.
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Update 8 on Pakistan Thirdgate
Guardian did another story on Thu 1 Sep 2022
Urgent aid appeal launched as satellite images show a third of Pakistan underwater
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/sep/01/pakistan-floods-satellite-images-underwater-urgent-aid-appeal
“as new satellite images appeared to confirm that a third of the country is now underwater” *
“Those pictures appear to confirm the Pakistani government’s assessment that more than a third of the country”**
What’s going on ?
The article is not news it is PR for the Disaster Appeal
“one third underwater” is a great PR line so they use it.
They embellish the claim by citing a credible source ESA European Space Agency
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2022/09/Pakistan_inundated
But this is a common NASA trick
Both institutions are probably scientific
but the NASA website is a PR operation full of garbage
So when people quote the NASA website they are quoting PR
Seems the same with ESA here.
They write the third claim like this
“since mid-June has led to more than a third of the country now being underwater, *according to a Pakistani government official*. ”
It’s a very short article, that is the only bit that mentions a third,
not the DATA. Cos despite the * and ** the Guardian’s claims
the actual photo in the article is as Paul H quotes
It does NOT show mostly flooded the vast vast majority is not flooded about 90%.
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In open debate we could debunk these cultists
See how they strawman skeptics “oh the they think it’s a hoax”
this is exactly the same as how Ponzi Scheme Cultists defame skeptics who dare to speak out
.. https://www.twitter.com/danwheeleruk/status/1590972346826752000
If I tweet back at these 2 they wouldn’t listen.
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The Nick Robinson show
1 episode super grilling a Tory
then 5 chummy episodes with lefties
Last week Angela Rayner this wee Green Party
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“The Austerity we don’t talk about”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/11/17/the-austerity-we-dont-talk-about/
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The latest climate hype from the BBC:
“Climate change: Melting glaciers could release tonnes of bacteria”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63655140
But read on and you find this:
Which sounds to me like a PR push for more funding.
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A new article from Ed Hoskins:
“The performance of Power generation technologies compared”
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/the-performance-of-power-generation-technologies-compared/
One small section contains three paragraphs offering much food for thought:
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What utter,utter balderdash. Valley glaciers flow downhill melting as they go and especially at their termini. Large, long glaciers may take many hundred years to totally melt, but melt they will. Thus any bacteria incarcerated will be released eventually and they are doing this continuously. If released bacteria are a threat then they always have been. If climate change speeds up melting then it reduces the time the bacteria have been away from the rest of the biosphere, so presumably reducing any risk.
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Worrying and sad. The climate alarmists are causing a lot of loss and damage:
“Motherhood in a climate crisis: Women share their anger and fear”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-62489684
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It seems that Sir David Attenborough isn’t loved by all:
“Weymouth climate change protester arrested while Sir David Attenborough dined”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-63684282
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The UK green grant industry must be huge
Everytime I look at the council tourism website, it’s pushing a green programme at me.
This is all paid for by UK taxpayers
“Hospitable Green Launch
This virtual course aims to teach business owners and employees more about sustainability and how their business can make a difference with support all about practical solutions that businesses can implement”
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Piers Corbyn vid is pretty convincing
that heatwaves and floods are driven by cyclical.moons sun patterns rather than CO2
.. https://www.twitter.com/i_r_b_r_m/status/1593632174875582465
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Paul Homewood beat me to it:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/11/19/cold-snaps-kill-more-than-hot-snaps-bbc-admits/
Main story here (front page of the website, too!):
“Staying warm: What does an unheated room do to your body?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63602501
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The BBC story isn’t headlined
“Welsh screw up Electric Car Drive to Qatar”
Doh political greens think their policies must be pushed through without a *pause for thought*
Here they organised a huge trip
but failed to do proper planning
No one realised it’s illegal to drive into Saudi in a RIGHT hand drive car*.
So they were refused at the border
“Instead of driving into Doha ahead of Wales’ first game against the USA on Monday, they flew in”
Do Greens really care about CO2 ?
No, that wasn’t their only flight.
They flew from Athens to Israel as well
“18 days across 17 countries and 3,800 miles”
That’s 1,200 miles short.
(BBC article has a typo they set off October 28 not November 28)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63667078
Quote from earlier BBC article
“We’re driven by both a love for football and a passion for the positive change electric cars can bring for people and the planet’
Other than that the articles don’t mention green politics
* Japan used to dump used Right Hand Drive cats on country
so Saudi banned them to protect dealers.
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Mark – from your Paul Homewood link
I think this comment from that post nails why BBC suddenly seem concerned about people freezing when they have no heating – “Bloke down the pub November 19, 2022 2:14 pm
The BBC only condescend to address the issue of cold temps when they think they can attack the government by doing so.”
the relevant quote to me from the BBC piece – “Ten degrees is the average temperature that people will be living in, if they can’t afford to heat their homes,” said Prof Bailey.
no mention when lack of power/energy will have the same effect.
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This is an actual tweet from Katharine Hayhoe. She has me blocked even though I’ve never tweeted to her. She’s supposed to have preemptively blocked all of Tony Heller’s followers.
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BBC Propaganda at every turn
Just now on the R4 Brain of Britain Quiz
“The Global Warming Policy Foundation and other Conservative lobby groups are based on which St ?
.. Ans : Tufton St
Did you know the parody MP in Private Eye was called Tufton”
Friday on BBC2 Pointless, a round
“Which forms of Renewable energies are these words with missing letter
eg B__m__s
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BBC local newsPR suddenly there is a PR piece for The Wah barrage
they reckon they can build an 11 mile barrier across the North Sea for £2bn
Its going to be on radio tmw.
There’s a webstory now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-63708269
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Here we are just a day or two after the end of COP27, and of the 10 most-read articles on the Guardian website, 5 are about football and rainbow armbands, two are about Brexit, none are about climate change or COP27, and in at number 5 is one headed “How we met: ‘She was bloody gorgeous. As soon as she said hello, I knew I was in trouble’”.
Perhaps Guardian editors should take note. Climate alarmism doesn’t turn on the readers any more.
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BBC – The Media Show
Does the media report climate protests responsibly? – https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001f5kr
What a joke.
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“ESA mulls Solaris plan to beam solar energy from space”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62982113
I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Is this an acknowledgement that cold is more harmful to health than heat?
“Energy bills: Patients prescribed heating as part of health trial”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63707689
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Interesting article on Watt-Logic about Norway’s concerns over its energy security:
https://watt-logic.com/2022/11/22/norway-energy-security/
It seems pretty reasonable, asking why should Norway suffer as a consequence of the incompetent energy policies of other countries. Charity begins at home and all that……
Could make life awkward here: aiui electricity imports from Norway are baked into our supply plans.
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A strange bit of reporting from the BBC today:
“Antarctica penguins: How too much ice triggered population decline”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-63700487
I regard it as strange for a few reasons. First, it’s not particularly topical, as the Guardian reported on this about 6 weeks ago:
“Australian scientists observe ‘rapid’ decline in Adélie penguin numbers off Antarctic coast
Ecologists believe population decline near Mawson research station is related to environmental changes that made foraging difficult”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/12/australian-scientists-observe-rapid-decline-in-adelie-penguin-numbers-off-antarctic-coast
Secondly, it’s odd for the BBC to talk about the threat from too much ice.
Thirdly, it lacks balance. The BBC doesn’t mention what’s happening to the Adelie penguin population more widely. At least the Guardian had the decency to do so:
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From the Daily Sceptic a few days ago:
“Sir David Attenborough recently ran a series of six Frozen Planet II green propaganda films featuring a variety of ‘modelled’ climate catastrophes. Notable was the claim that all the Arctic summer sea ice could be gone by 2035.
In addition, he highlighted a colony of Adelie penguins in western Antarctica, whose numbers were said to have fallen over 40 years from 20,000 to just 400 breeding pairs, apparently due to climate change.
Missing from the narrative was the more cheerful news that a colony of 1.5 million Adelies had recently been discovered on the eastern side of the continent.”
The BBC wouldn’t want to detract from the catastrophism they had Sir D spouting.
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Tuesday BBC local NewsPR show : misleading report about Elon Musk tweeting about a local battery project at Cottingham
Whereas the report banged on about the batteries being there to store windpower
“enough for a city of Hull for 2 hours”
* That is false cos they are only counting the “homes” not power used in industry, hospitals biz etc
When they flashed up the Musk tweet
viewers would have not have had time to detect it was a different topic of smoothing spikes, not providing backup for hours.
“electricity demand spikes that cause power outages’
.. https://www.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594828625232113664
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“Crews called out to wind turbine fire in Aberdeenshire”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-63728998
The turbine looks well and truly ablaze.
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Furthermore there is a BBC person, Hudson the weather man doing proper maths
as he calls out Mr Shoddy Science Shuckmann
Hudson is the only non-dreamer in the thread
Furthermore there is a BBC person, Hudson the weather man doing proper maths
as he calls out Mr Shoddy Science Shuckmann
Hudson is the only non-dreamer in the thread
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Naomi Oreskes is leaving Twitter. Did Exxon know? Who’s going to keep a watch on the George C. Marshall Institute?
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“Climate change: Environmental groups need more diversity”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-63661594
Pretty standard fare from the agenda-driven BBC, but the words that supplied an amazing giveaway are these:
Yes, we have a climate industry. Who knew?
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“Johnson and Truss join rebels against Sunak keeping new onshore wind ban
About 20 Conservative MPs want to end longstanding de facto block on new wind farms in England”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/24/boris-johnson-and-liz-truss-join-rebels-against-rishi-sunak-keeping-new-onshore-wind-ban
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Last Sunday (20.xi.2022), the Kuenssberg Show:
Setup: LK was interviewing someone from NASA about the Artemis mission as a sandwich filler between the usual Tory and Labour politicians. This question from her to the NASA guy was extraordinary:
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Mark, perhaps someone should send Clarke et al a link to this story at the Daily Sceptic (can’t vouch for the accuracy, have not read the source paper): https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/24/green-bombshell-new-evidence-points-to-the-annual-slaughter-of-millions-of-bats-by-onshore-wind-turbines/
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As to this, the word disgraceful does not come close to describing my opinion of it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63738388
What country is this?
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/flu-pneumonia-deaths-10-times-higher-covid-ons-b942170.html
as per not sure what to make of this – “Flu and pneumonia deaths now 10 times higher than Covid”
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“‘Second spring’ as UK experiences record above-average temperatures
Nature’s cycle disrupted by summer heatwave and ‘exceptionally mild’ autumn, with dormant plants bursting back to life”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/25/second-spring-as-uk-experiences-record-above-average-temperatures
Record above-average temperatures? Follow the link the Guardian offers up in support of this claim, and it takes you to another Guardian article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/weather-tracker-unseasonably-warm-october-europe-records
which says:
Strictly speaking the first headline is honest, but it is misleading, since it implies (to the causal reader) that we’ve had record-breaking autumn temperatures, when clearly we haven’t. The “record” claim is for the year as a whole:
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