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Continuing from the last comment on the previous thread. The first page in the series, from early May 2021, is here.
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We need a proper grown-up debate about this sort of thing:
“How retrofitting the UK’s old buildings can generate an extra £35bn in new money
Heritage and property groups outline plan to boost energy efficiency at historical sites to create jobs, cut emissions and meet net-zero targets”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/06/retrofitting-old-buildings-uk-energy-efficiency
Will it generate £35bn of economic output a year, or will it cost the taxpayer £35bn a year? Do we want to create jobs for the sake of it, at the public expense, or do we want jobs to be meaningful? If net zero creates jobs, is that a benefit, or an on-cost? Will that make things better for everyone, or worse?
Arguments about government spending having the effect of “pump-priming” the economy are nothing new; ditto arguments that in bad times, government spending can be beneficial to the economy, whereas cuts drive a downwards spiral. But please, let’s discuss this in rational terms, and stop pretending that throwing money at net zero is an unadulterated good thing, with no potential down-side.
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“The Guardian view on Dutch farmer protests: a European test case
Editorial
Reducing greenhouse gas emissions from livestock is vital. But the politics is fraught”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/05/the-guardian-view-on-dutch-farmer-protests-a-european-test-case
Oh, Guardian, oh double standards. You would never use such language about the behaviour and tactics of XR, JSO etc. But it’s all there – “toxic” conspiracy theories, allegations of “far right” involvement. It couldn’t simply be that the policy protested against is barking mad, illiberal and authoritarian, could it?
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A lesson in irony:
Yesterday I was browsing my bookcase and I came across a book that I had completely forgotten I had bought and was still sitting there unread. Its title:
‘The organised mind: thinking straight in the age of information overload’
Time to stop buying so many books, perhaps.
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Surprise, surprise:
“Chippenham: New solar farm given planning permission”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-64863585
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“Climate change: Warming could raise UK flood damage bill by 20%”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64866058
Actually, the headline on the clickbait front page of the BBC website is “UK costs from flood damage could rise by 20%”, with a small narrative of “Cutting greenhouse gas emissions could save millions of pounds in flood damage costs”. Of course, the causal surfer of the BBC website, who doesn’t read beyond the headlines and associated narrative, might assume this means that the UK’s cutting of greenhouse gas emissions will do good for the citizens of the UK by warding off climate change, thereby avoiding flooding, thereby saving money. Which isn’t true, since unless the rest of the world follows suit the UK’s GHG emissions reduction plan will make absolutely no difference to the climate.
And perfectly reasonably the BBC article doesn’t say that UK emissions cuts will avoid increased flooding in the UK, but then it doesn’t need to, since the initial soundbite leaves the causal reader with impression – job done. And even if one reads on, one might still draw the incorrect inference. If money spent on reducing GHG emissions in the UK doesn’t save money by reducing flooding, why quote something like this:
Note, although the article is largely about modelling to assist with adaptation, that quote is about mitigation, with the implication that cutting GHG emissions in the UK is worthwhile, despite the fact that every pound we spend on it is a pound that isn’t available to be “spent on teachers, nurses, hospitals, schools”. It’s just wrong.
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Oh, that pesky climate crisis:
“Australia: Crop exports set for record high after heavy rains”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64871164
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“Non-native plants outnumber British flora, major report finds”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64842402
It seems fairly clear that this is due to lots of reasons, and it seems likely that climate change is well down the list in terms of responsibility for the changes. It doesn’t stop climate change being given a prominent role in the BBC article, and indeed the World At One piece on it on Radio 4 today mentioned climate change several times, as though it was obviously the main factor.
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Clearly one piece on this wasn’t enough:
“Climate change blamed for declines in mountain plants”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-64875273
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“More snow to sweep across UK as Arctic blast hits”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64875441
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“Stoke-on-Trent residents to sue council over ‘mis-sold’ solar power contracts
More than 230 people are to launch a class action lawsuit after some say they feel ‘lied to’”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/08/stoke-on-trent-residents-class-action-lawsuit-council-mis-sold-solar-power-contracts
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“National Grid pays high price for gas-generated power during UK cold snap
Electricity system operator struggled to keep lights on during one of the coldest weeks”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/09/national-grid-pays-high-price-for-gas-generated-power-during-uk-cold-snap
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What’s going on with rainfall observations ?
During the summer hot period the TV would tell me there was zero rain
yet my eyes and the waterbutt showed it had rained
Then I could use the Met Office WOW website to grab tables/graphs
also showing rainfall
I used the Scunthorpe and Scampton sites
but now as I check a BBC story about “East of England drought”
and when I went to Wow the Norwich sites either first told you “no observations”
or even if you went to another by the time I jumped through steps.. it too held no rainfall data
Then I check the Scunthorpe and Scampton sites and they too are withholding it.
So I went to meteoBlue it does immediately gives graphs
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/weatherarchive/cambridge_united-kingdom_2653941
but the local stats for Scunthorpe seem undercounted
With the rain butt here all full I keep draining then a bit, but they still top up.
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Refreshingly realistic views on offshore wind from the CEO of a US firm that claims to be the world’s largest producer of renewable energy:
https://gcaptain.com/nextera-ceo-says-offshore-wind-a-bad-bet/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-e84f389086-170410014&mc_cid=e84f389086&mc_eid=9275323244
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“Renewable sources produced half of NI electricity in 2022”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-64894566
I’m glad that they acknowledged this:
On the other hand, it’s a pity that they don’t balance the reporting on the highs and lows associated with the average figure of 51% over the year. We are told the best month (February, “accounting for 76.5% of electricity consumption”) but we are left in the dark as to the worst month, which I’m guessing would be in the 20s per cent. Perhaps they hope that we just won’t stop and ask the obvious questions about unreliability and unpredictability.
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What with coal power stations being kept running, and now this:
“Extended life for two UK nuclear power stations”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64906179
it looks as though reality might just be dawning – somewhere a penny has dropped.
You don’t say?
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As for wind turbines:
And this:
“Wind turbine failure rates are rising – has the industry gone too big, too fast?”
https://reneweconomy.com.au/wind-turbine-failure-rates-are-rising-has-the-industry-gone-too-big-too-fast/
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Mark; That report also says:
“Vestas also said its lost production factor is rising towards 4 per cent due to the number of “extraordinary” repairs and upgrades.”
I take that to mean a reduction in the capacity factor. As they were around 40%, that reduction represents a 10% shortfall in output which will really hurt the bottom line.
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Given how difficult it is for owners of listed buildings to persuade the authorities to grant permission for any changes at all, this all seems a little too easy – obviously net zero is a key card to play:
“York Minster solar panels plan approved by council”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-64905283
There must be an argument that this is completely inappropriate development of an iconic building in an iconic ancient city. But what do we get?
Where the new religion meets the old, I suppose.
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“Report Behind Climate Change Act 2008 Overestimated Weather and Climate Damage by $1 Trillion”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/03/10/report-behind-climate-change-act-2008-overestimated-weather-and-climate-damage-by-1-trillion/
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There are ways of putting up panels so they won’t be visible eg on a flat roof high up
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GB news just has this Risk Meteorologist on
Someone adds “Jim Dale regularly flies to see his wife’s family in Thailand”
Big thread from when he was on yesterday too
.. https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1633786215152467969
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Lozza Fox ..there was only one death in London from pollution
.. That’s true just one recent person had it on their death certificate in recent years
Jim Dale “No air pollution kills millions around the world and 50K per year in London”
The first part is true (from cooking indoors over wood fires etc)
The London one is false and is a zombie stat
9 millions Londoners lives are shortened by air pollution but by days
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Andrew Montford writing in the Daily Sceptic – worth a read:
“The Deception Over Climate is Even Worse Than the Deception Over Covid”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/03/11/the-deception-over-climate-is-even-worse-than-the-deception-over-covid/
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R4 FooC “South Africa Rolling Blackouts, load shedding is getting ever more common”
“Eskom people shout”
“as a result the private solar power sector is booming”
“Country’s economy is shrinking even more than predicted”
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It seems that CO2 emissions are now “pollution”, despite being harmless to health (at current atmospheric levels), and beneficial to plants:
“Climate change: Big polluters set out £30bn plan to cut emissions”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64929468
Note that although these industries may well emit real pollution, the article is referring to – and seems to be concerned about – only CO2.
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It’s bizarre at how much charity grants are available
I’ve just been sent a list it includes
eg Energy Redress Scheme – Energy Saving Trust
https://energyredress.org.uk/apply-funding
Climate Action Fund – The National Lottery Community Fund
This funding aims to help communities across the UK to address climate change.
They’re looking for projects that focus on the link between nature and climate
tnlcommunityfund.org.uk
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A blue tick tweeted this about @horton_official the Guardian Climate journo
“The journalist has been named in a scientific paper about misinformation.”
If you search twitter for : @horton_official misinformation a few things come up but not that thing
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This sounds interesting from Jeremy Hunt
— https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-64831837?pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:de95d472-3964-4747-835e-16851bedb5cd
He went on the praise Nigel Lawson in some form.
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That URL on the BBC Live Budget page works but the text is now fuller:
Hopefully a real sea-change underway. He said this is the only way for the UK to realise Net Zero, because “even under the Conservatives” the sun doesn’t always shine and the wind doesn’t always blow.
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Rather worrying letters at the Guardian website today:
“Climate activists must target power structures, not the public
Dr Laura Thomas-Walters, Tim Williamson and Paul Chandler respond to Jack Shenker’s article that asked if the disruptive tactics of groups such as Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil are working”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/15/climate-activists-must-target-power-structures-not-the-public
Am I wrong in thinking that is arguing that climate activists can ignore the views of the public and get what they (a very small minority of the electorate) want by targeting “the structures that support governments, such as business and the legal and financial systems”?
The second letter concludes:
To which I would answer, when was the electorate given any say about adopting net zero, with the many, many problems and great expense that it entails?
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And read this and weep:
“Jeremy Hunt accused of ‘£20bn gamble’ on nuclear energy and carbon capture
Campaigners say chancellor is in the grip of the fossil fuel and nuclear lobbies and is ‘squandering taxpayers’ money’”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/15/jeremy-hunt-accused-of-taking-a-20bn-gamble-on-nuclear-energy-and-carbon-capture
£20Bn of our money (on top of all the rest of it) committed to yet more net zero policies, and it’s lambasted by the climate alarmists. They got one thing right, however – net zero is certainly squandering taxpayers’ money.
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Keir Starmer accuses Tories of turning Britain back into ‘sick man of Europe’
bit sexist, but I can take it if backed up with any facts.
my guess is he will never mention what net zero policy will do to cripple/bring this country to it’s knee’s.
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A Dutch political party set up to oppose new green laws has just become the joint largest party in the Dutch senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64967513
Its founder is said to have been so shocked when she saw the exit polls that she put a hand to her mouth and stammered “Wat de fok is hier gebeurd?”
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I suppose it depends on your point of view whether you think the following article which appeared out of the blue 3 hours ago is part of its obligation to “educate and inform” or whether it’s part of its ongoing climate propaganda programme:
“What is climate change? A really simple guide”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24021772
The self-same article first appeared on 2nd November 2022. They seem to have decided to regurgitate it
just now for no obviously apparent reason.
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Vinny – thanks for the above link, liked this partial smear quote –
“Commentator Ben Coates described the result as “something of an earthquake in Dutch politics”.
Although their policies are very much focused on opposing the government’s environmental policies, he told the BBC most people would characterise them as a right-wing, populist party that was quite anti-EU, anti-immigration and in favour of banning burkas for Muslims.”
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“‘Shitshow’: Key UN climate report was delayed by scientist strike
Report will be released Monday, after a months long delay that sparked criticism of global body’s leadership.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/shitshow-intergovernmental-panel-on-climate-change-ipcc-report-delay-scientist-strike/
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Yet again it’s like rainfall observations are being hidden
I start with the Met Office last 24 hours observation page
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/observations/gcxdqnhwn
Yet their table doesn’t give rainfall
Yet the rainfall radar map accessed through the same page shows there was rain.
Then I use the same location name in WOW
private users observations
https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/sites/search
Yet when I go through the click almost every site won’t give me a rainfall graph
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BTW I’m looking at water levels in Roadford Lake which is 60%
but is it actually only filled up by rain
It seems that rain is ending up in rivers like the Lydd
and southwest Water are making a choice not to pump it into the lake
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A hopeful tweet:
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dfhunter: Quite a smear. It’s full of terms that
woke authoritariansthe righteous use as insults.Some of the views that Coates claims ‘most people’ have about BBB are half-true (eg, ‘anti-EU’: BBB wants to bring back the EEC) but when your summary of something is full of
wokely authoritarianrighteous buzzphrases, it’s intended as a smear. Naughty Auntie Beeb.*
Here’s a less partial Beeb in 2018 discussing how ‘populist’ had become an insult in recent decades:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-43301423
It included a short video by Lionel Shriver.
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And here’s a map of recent nitrogen pollution in the EU plus an excellent explanation of what has been going on in The Netherlands:
https://landgeist.com/2023/03/13/livestock-density/
NL definitely has a big nitrogen problem.
How to fix it?
Dunno. But democracy shouldn’t be excluded.
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Green schemes are often money pits
Senior execs at @Circ_Scotland, the firm in charge of Scotland’s under-fire bottlle deposit return scheme, are receiving £670,000 a year in salaries & fees, confidential documents leaked to @TheScotsman show.
Its CEO, David Harris, has a salary of £300k. “
https://scotsman.com/business/deposit-return-scheme-scotland-anger-as-outrageous-pay-for-senior-execs-behind-scotlands-under-fire-drs-is-revealed-4069803
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15 Mar 2023 · The LABOUR mayor of Bristol has defended his plans to build an underground railway network expected to cost between £7 billion and £18 billion.
That’s a lot of CO2
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If you write for the Guardian everything – and I mean everything is about “the climate crisis”, apparently:
“The Aukus deal is a crime against the world’s climate future. It didn’t have to be like this”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/20/the-aukus-deal-is-a-against-the-worlds-climate-future-it-didnt-have-to-be-like-this
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Ah, Jeff Sparrow. He is supposed to be one of Austalia’s leading intellectuals, don’t you know. I was sorely tempted to write an article challenging this view after I came across this:
https://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/the–kettle-logic–of-climate-denial-cultists
I’d even thought of a possible title: “Pot logic calling kettle logic black”
The point is that Sparrow is a particularly scornful writer who lacks self awareness.
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This Labour Green Policy tweet is ratioed
and gets a right kicking in the quote comments
BTW saying “One country will” is natural English
saying “Some country will” is what a non-native speaker might say
Saying “why not ? ” or “it’s a no brainer” for a complicated policy usually just shows you haven’t thought properly
cos there are negatives to most policies.
She has form ..she forgot to factor Winter into her Energy Bills plan
.. https://twitter.com/MeganWi90287242/status/1576558541263208448
full video tweet https://twitter.com/RachelReevesMP/status/1636691350702923777
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Why not Britain? Because Britain’s electricity is going to be too expensive to cost-effectively manufacture anything that could instead be imported from China.
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My money’s on this one not being acted upon, just like all the others. Then, a little way down the road, there’ll be another final warning:
“Scientists deliver ‘final warning’ on climate crisis: act now or it’s too late
IPCC report says only swift and drastic action can avert irrevocable damage to world”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/20/ipcc-climate-crisis-report-delivers-final-warning-on-15c
Although it’s always going to be too late if we don’t act now it seems it’s never too late for another warning and another chance.
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“Latest UN Climate Doom Report Falsely Claims Global Temperatures Are “Highest for 125,000 Years””
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/03/21/latest-un-climate-doom-report-falsely-claims-global-temperatures-are-highest-for-125000-years/
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Brendan O’Neill, in Spiked. Good values, as always:
“Eco-dread is a luxury belief we can no longer afford
Climate-change hysteria is a menace to the lives and interests of working people.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/21/eco-dread-is-a-luxury-belief-we-can-no-longer-afford/
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There was a reason why we gave up on wind power for long-distance shipping….
“Cargo ships powered by wind could help tackle climate crisis
Shipping produces much of the world’s greenhouse gases but new technology offers solutions to cut fuel use”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/23/cargo-ships-powered-by-wind-could-help-tackle-climate-crisis
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Take a close look everyone at
https://cliscep.com/
Robin Guenier is now a ‘first class object’ to the WordPress system.
(As we say in software geek circles. Welcome Robin – and thanks in advance.)
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What kind of a headline is this? Does less warming cause worse impacts?
It’s not a Chris Mooney piece even though the title sounds like a parody of his style.
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Mike,
T’was always going to go this way. Firstly, the scientists were always going to say that the actions already taken are the reason why the apocalyptic projections no longer apply — despite the fact that co2 emissions are not actually falling yet.
Secondly, they were always going to claim higher impact for a given temperature rise once they twigged that the rises were not going to be so great. There is a basic problem with all of this, however. The scientific ‘breakthrough’ would be lot more convincing if it had not coincided with the point when an apocalyptic narrative needed rescuing. Breakthroughs are not usually so obliging.
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I need to qualify the above. It isn’t actually ‘the scientists’ that are playing funny buggers. I am not claiming a scientific hoax. It’s just that we are now politically anchored to a given risk calculation and we no longer have the wherewithal to free ourselves from it.
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“IPCC’s Increasingly Shrill Climate Armageddon Fantasies Gain Little Traction in Media”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/03/23/ipccs-increasingly-shrill-climate-armageddon-fantasies-gain-little-traction-in-media/
I particularly liked this paragraph:
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Robert Bryce does an interview with Jeff Gibbs, the producer and narrator of Planet of the Humans. He has a lot of great insights as well as a bit of infuriating Malthusianism:
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Twitter just pushed this tweet at me
Why does its algorithm think i need to know about Green Libraries ?
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SouthWest Water are still claiming drought and a hosepipe ban in Cornwall
Since they have had days or rain I’m waiting for stats to be updated
They clearly have LIVE stats but the ones they publish are now 5 days delayed
That sounds like the Climate loving PR dept are driving policy
The graphs were tending to show reservoir levels 20% below 2022’s but the gap seemed to be narrowing every week
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ITV local NewsPR had a “Remember Beeching” item
then in the middle they suddenly shoehorned this in
as if the climate activist is the producers girlfried
“Environmental concerns weren’t a factor for Beeching
but this Climate Charity say they must be today”
Cue Apaar Mangat of Hope For The Future “blah blah cars air pollution”
BTW air pollution is a different issue to Climate Change CO2
Generally the activists are MORE anti car than they are pro low-CO2
Then she continued “To fight Climate change we need a rail network ..tickbox, tickbox, tickbox”
.. em rail system have so much infrastructure and concrete they are inherently high CO2 even if electric,
and inherently high cost.
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stewgreen,
I can’t speak for Cornwall, but after a dry and very pleasant February, it’s been a wet March in Cumbria, and almost every day in the 14 day weather forecast (taking us well into April) is wet. The drought that they’re pushing doesn’t look on the cards to me – it’s all part of the relentless climate change propaganda.
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As a regular critic of the BBC, may I give it credit for the Radio 4 programme “AntiSocial”. To date I have heard only a couple of episodes, but it is well and calmly chaired, and it allows a debate to take place, with both sides being allowed plenty of space to make their case without being shouted down or excluded. It’s a shining example of what the BBC can be when it tries, and should be a model for the rest of its output, IMO. Yesterday included Brendan O’Neill, who was as good as ever, and he (and the person he disagreed with) both performed well. There was also good input from David Spiegelhalter. A grown-up programme, at last!
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Lawyers pledge not to prosecute Climate Activists
Mad solicitor Monika Sobiecki 💚@CyberSobiecki of @BindmansLLP is on TalkTV
she is leading a campaign for two tier justice
Saying that
#1 lawyers should represent all kinds of baddies like bullies
#2 lawyers should NOT represent fossil fuel guys, cos they are such baddies
#3 Climate protesters should NOT be prosecuted even if they BREAK the law, cos they are peaceful.
“When we first started gathering signatories for Lawyers Are Responsible (@LawyersAreResp) did we expect to rile ppl up so much we’d be front page Daily Mail news”
She’s not actually a criminal lawyer
keeps shouting “please read the IPCC report”
just said lawyers have made £1.1 trillion from new fossil fuel work (made up number
An opposing barrister Andrew Eborn is pushing back
presenter asks shouldn’t anti-war protesters
have the same special treatment
“If Mr X goes o a Climate protest on Monday and spraypaints the bank walls, you won’t prosecute him (for criminal damage)
If Mr X goes on a stop the war protest on Tuesday and spraypaints the bank walls, you WILL prosecute him”
Principle : Rule breaking “It’s OK when we lefties do it”
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video
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Willis Eschenbach is back on Twitter. Steve Mosher and Willard are still suspended.
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Mike,
I gather that Willard has also got himself banned from Judith Curry’s blog. I suspect it was as a result of a particularly exhausting trollathon he recently engaged in. He is, of course, still welcome to post here if he is willing to engage in an adult debate on the nature and impact of uncertainty. It’s just an offer. No expectation is implied.
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Headline:
“Weather tracker: Spain edges towards record March heat”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/27/weather-tracker-spain-edges-towards-record-march-heat
Fair enough, so far as it goes:
GBnews catchup with Climate predictions
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calm JRM vs the hysterical Phoebe Plummer
She made some over the top claims about wheat/potato crop loss for 2022, then
“People will be fighting over the loaves at Lidl”
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The comments went way against her
and actually there was a first tweet with more comments
but after 10 mins GBnews deleted it and put up the 100% identical one above
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“UK ‘strikingly unprepared’ for impacts of climate crisis
Government’s official advisers point to ‘lost decade’ in efforts to protect lives and livelihoods”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/29/uk-strikingly-unprepared-impacts-climate-crisis
Two observations from me:
1. The UK is probably one the countries least at risk from climate change.
2. If (as sceptics have long urged) we had spent more time and money on adaptation, and less on the fool’s errand of net zero, whereby we spend a fortune and disrupt everyone’s lives, while making no net difference to the climate, we would be much better placed. The CCC is in many ways the villain of the piece in this regard, since it has spent so long agitating for mitigation ahead of adaptation.
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Mark, as friend of the channel Steven Mosher says, and I paraphrase slightly because I can’t remember exactly what he said: “Of course we don’t plan for tomorrow. We don’t plan for today.”
The BBC version of the story at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65099546/ notes that last year temperatures hit 40C for the first time and 25,000 wildfires “broke out”. I didn’t know that fires spontaneously start at 40C. “Celsius 40” doesn’t have quite the same ring as “Fahrenheit 451”. The entire article is hysterical blather.
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I’m lost for words. Leave it for yourselves, and see what you think:
“The UK’s ‘green day’ has turned into a fossil fuel bonanza – dirty money powers the Sunak government
George Monbiot
In prioritising oil and gas over renewables, ministers are doing the bidding of the polluters. And we’ll all pay the price”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/29/uk-green-day-fossil-fuel-dirty-money-sunak-renewables
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@Mark Hodgson: 27 MAR 23 AT 6:50 PM
“However, the high temperatures are only expected to last until Friday, with temperatures falling back towards average over the weekend.”
I sometimes wonder if they know what “average” means. we seem to get this with rainfall in the UK over the last few years as well.
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Mark, the BBC cover Green Day, and include a piece of disgraceful misinformation:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65107072
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March has been cold, wet, grey, miserable and oft times quite windy. Basically, an extension of winter. I expect the Met Office will no doubt be telling us in a day or two that it has been the ‘nth warmest March on record’.
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Mark, re. Moonbat’s Guardian commentary:
Repeats ‘the science is clear’ Holy Mantra:
“Yet the science is clear: if we are not to push global heating past 1.5°C, there can be no new fossil fuel development.”
How do we counter religious converts citing science in defence of their ideological belief system?
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Have the Isle of Man authorities gone mad?
“Views sought on proposals to phase out fossil fuel boilers”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-65113084
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“Humza Yousaf’s first FMQs hit by series of disruptions”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65123723
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Mark – re – Have the Isle of Man authorities gone mad?
“Views sought on proposals to phase out fossil fuel boilers”
the short answer is yes, as a IOM resident I was not aware they were planning to do this on new builds so soon. quote from the Consultation –
“Please note the 2025 ban and the proposed changes set out in this consultation do not affect replacements of fossil fuel heating systems within existing buildings – they affect new buildings only.”
so, only “new buildings” will be affected, looks like existing houses may get a price boost from this madness.
ps – filling in the Consultation as I type.
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https://notrickszone.com/2023/03/28/body-blow-to-activists-whopping-82-of-berlins-voters-refused-to-support-2030-climate-neutrality/
people are not fooled all the time it seems.
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Mark I’m surprised to see you claim that the U.K. is a country least at risk from climate change. I would argue the opposite. It all relates to our confusion about “weather” and “climate”. It is weather that can harm us, not climate. Since British weather is one of the most changeable on Earth, any change in one of several major chaotic influences over our climate and weather systems could cause changes in the frequency or severity of weather events, which over time would be properly identified as climate change.
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Alan,
Thank you, as always, for reminding me of the need to express myself clearly and with greater thought and effort.
I said what I did because even a quick trawl through the history books offers a reminder that – as you point out – the UK is at risk from the weather, and always has been.
We have suffered terrible floods, terrible droughts, coastal habitations have been lost to coastal erosion and storms. We have suffered greatly from storms and from storm surges, and have done so since time immemorial. Is it getting worse? I don’t think so. Do we stand to suffer from it if it gets worse (i.e., if the climate changes detrimentally)? I suppose it’s possible, but the problems strike me as being low-grade compared to the problems likely to be faced by developing countries with lower resilience if a flood or a drought hits. That’s the advantage of being a wealthy developed country (and, of course, is why developing countries seek to develop – to make themselves better able to cope with…everything).
It seems to me that the biggest problem facing this country, climate-wise, is an ever-expanding population, resulting in more and more development taking place in inappropriate locations (such as those at risk of flooding, whether or not flooding becomes more extreme and more common). The next biggest problem is the failure of the authorities to plan adequately for the growing population. For example, I am sure that I have read that since the 1976 drought (and nothing has yet come close, certainly not last year’s, whatever the climate worriers would have us believe) the UK’s population has increased by around 20% but that virtually no provision has been made for extra reservoir capacity, and precious little has been done to solve the problem of leaking pipes.
And so on.
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“Global energy crisis” BBCnews use that tag on pages
Why ?
There’s loads of energy across the world
people didn’t freeze to death this winter.
There is an issue with price bubbles
but generally people manage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c2041rg5e6gt
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Thanks for the link & sad to hear, sadly missed as one who spoke his mind.
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I learned of death of Nigel Lawson from a tweet by Net Zero Watch. Nothing on the sites of the Guardian or BBC. A search revealed an obituary at the Guardian that spoke of his “political career spanning 18 years.” That was the period he was a minister. He was of course active in politics for more like 50 years. There’s no mention of the Global Warming Policy Foundation at all. The Guardian simply wipes it from history.
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Correction. He was MP for 18 years. The BBC’s obituary also fails to mention the GWPF, merely saying: “Lawson used his platform in the Lords to express scepticism of man-made climate change.”
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That is extraordinary Geoff. This ‘Trusted News Initiative’ stuff means they no longer trust anyone with any history that doesn’t comply with the narrative.
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There is a paradox here that I have tried to draw attention to from way back.
Like Osborne, anyone who’s anyone in the Conservatives has been paying their tributes to Lawson – almost all choosing not to mention that final two decades where staying radical meant something entirely unexpected and anti-Establishment. But Lord Frost to his credit at least mentioned this vast contribution to British public life last night
So that’s the one I retweeted after Ian Woolley told me Lawson had died. (In the pub. Watching Spurs. But the less said about that the better!)
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The BBC must have amended its obituary for Nigel Lawson since Geoff commented earlier today, as it now includes this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725176
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The Guardian must have updated its obituary too. It includes this:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/04/lord-lawson-of-blaby-nigel-lawson-obituary
They even manage to avoid snide comments about the GWPF (for once). I suppose certain niceties are necessary when it comes to obituaries.
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Is it too early in the year for a COP28 page?
“Revealed: UAE plans huge oil and gas expansion as it hosts UN climate summit
Exclusive: UAE’s fossil fuel boss will be the president of Cop28, making a mockery of the summit, say campaigners”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/04/revealed-uae-plans-huge-oil-and-gas-expansion-as-it-hosts-un-climate-summit
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Watch out for utter confusion at upcoming COP (with its host UAE) if interest in Climategate and its host university (UEA) is renewed and the miss-spellers thrive.
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BBCnews just now “Climate change brings encephalitis infected ticks to the UK”
Definitely NOT coming in with tourists who’ve been in foreign countries
or animals or agricultural products brought in from foreign countries.
…/sarc
I was bitten by an *infected tick* whilst at Baikal in Siberia
(tested at a Russian lab)
Back in the UK the NHS lab couldn’t find any encephalitis in my blood
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“Ice sheets can collapse at 600 metres a day, far faster than feared, study finds
Sediments from last ice age provide ‘warning from the past’ for Antarctica and sea level rise today, say scientists”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/05/ice-sheets-collapse-far-faster-than-feared-study-climate-crisis
What’s interesting is the alarmist narrative here. A sober analysis might draw the conclusion that ice sheets have retreated much more rapidly in the past 20,000 years (a blink of an eye in terms of the life of the planet) than is occurring now. The corollary is that perhaps temperatures increased more rapidly then than now, and all the claims that what is going on now is unprecedented are not justified.
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And on that sort of subject:
“BBC Goes into Antarctica Climate Meltdown – But Ignores Data Showing No Loss of Ice”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/04/05/bbc-goes-into-antarctica-climate-meltdown-but-ignores-data-showing-no-loss-of-ice/
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“Labour’s eco-aristocracy
Ed Miliband’s green policies would amount to a massive bung to the wealthy.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/05/labours-eco-aristocracy/
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Guess that’s why they called it the Global Heating Policy Foundation. By the way, the Desmog entry on the GWPF is as good evidence as any regarding where the power lies in the climate “debate.” It’s not David vs. Goliath. It’s David vs. an armoured brigade of Goliaths.
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Thanks Mark.
I trust Geoff that the Beeb and Grauniad were slow in getting their ducks in a row. “How do we spin this? Can we call him denier in the headline?” The likes of Marianna Spring would have been well out of their depth – well, even more than normal.
Like Jit I also ended up on Desmog – pointed there by Lawson critics on Twitter. But somehow I still felt encouragement.
I love Matt Ridley’s testimony of how Lawson was going to write “You are wrong and Matt is right” in reply to Prince Philip and Matt got him to tone down that message. He didn’t suffer even royal fools gladly, leading to a fascinating top-secret lunch for four in the Palace of Westminster:
Some people still believed in debate in 2017 and in the top-tier of UK politicians Lawson was foremost among them. His quick wits were also fun to see during the Brexit debates:
H/t to Ian Woolley for that one. We are going to miss him.
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Interesting article on Scotland’s future energy plans:
https://www.energyvoice.com/opinion/493585/eliminate-nuclear-and-gas-more-questions-than-answers-on-scotlands-baseload-power/
Basically it’s monnbeams and unicorn farts!
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Mikehig – thanks for that link – liked the quote towards the end –
“So where, as Mr Kerr asked, is that baseload going to come from if we eliminate nuclear and gas generation? The answer, I suspect, is that we will still be relying on both, well beyond 2030. Just so long as they are imported!
The more I read of the evidence – which I thoroughly recommend – the more I was struck by the hypothetical nature of it all. Knowledgeable people spoke frankly about both the possibilities and the doubts but nowhere did anyone put forward the kind of firm agenda which would give confidence in keeping the economy going, if the current sources of generation are lost.
To be fair, that is not the job of academics or engineers. It’s the polticians who are supposed to have a plan”
but where were the engineers involved?
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dfh: if there were any engineers involved I expect they kept their heads down because none of these numpties would be interested in – or able to understand – the realities.
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This caught my eye:
https://gcaptain.com/coast-guard-warns-of-safety-risks-with-wind-cargoes/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-9147ed1507-170410014&mc_cid=9147ed1507&mc_eid=9275323244
Think of the irony if a badly-loaded ship carrying turbine parts were to collide with a windfarm!
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In the first two and a half minutes of this video, caffeine abusing automotive YouTuber Scotty Kilmer mocks Ford’s discontinuing production of their electric F-150 Lightning pickup:
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Just heard flood warning in the radio news
I checked other media
Yahoo news “Met Office issues flood warning amid yellow alert for much of Scotland tonight”
Guardian “Heavy rain and gales forecast for western parts of UK
Met Office issues yellow warnings for wind and Environment Agency issues seven flood alerts in south”
Oxford Mail : “Met Office issues flood alerts for Oxfordshire this week
The Met Office has issued flood alerts for Oxfordshire this week, with strong rainfall expected from Tuesday afternoon.”
Drought Porn : On March 14th there had already been hours of rain
but the Guardian had prepared their UK drought story and ran with it anyway
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrN7LyXXoAIH7Au?format=jpg&name=small[/img]
(One of the drought river photos
turned out to be a low tide photo
so the Guardian later stealth edited it out of the article)
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.No drought in Britain
The Guardian simply cherrypicks another country
on April 5 “Water ban in drought-stricken Tunisia adds to growing crisis”
Was that story too out of date at time of publishing ?
Well some people tweeted that day they had had the 4 days of heavy rain
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Obviously, the ghost of Dennis Howell* is haunting the Grauniad offices.
* for those with shorter memories than mine, our Dennis was made Minister for Drought during the long hot summer of 1976. Shortly after his appointment, the weather broke, and it started raining.
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I went and saw Bill McKibben speak at a local community college. Afterwards I went and shook hands with him and event organizer Peter Sinclair (I sometimes comment on his blog).
https://t.co/TiqXrPAjcR
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I’m rather busy just now, but if I can find the time, there might be an article in this. It’s front-page news on the BBC website:
“Climate change: Fossil fuel emissions from electricity set to fall – report”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65240094
The article is full of hype, but the reality is that it talking about only fossil fuel use associated with electricity generation, not fossil fuel use generally. Given that (iirc) electricity represents only around 1/6 of the world’s energy use, this is hardly the turning-point that the article claims. The report, by Ember (not exactly a disinterested organisation, IMO) can be found here:
https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/global-electricity-review-2023/
It starts by confusing electricity and power (this is so common that I can’t help wondering if it’s deliberate). A headline tells us:
It’s followed immediately by a statement that:
12% of electricity generation, then, not12% of global power. If I am correct that electricity represents around 1/6 of global power, then wind and solar have achieved….drum roll….2% of the world’s energy use.
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The BBC (Matt McGrath) observes that
And, as Ember says:
A curious ‘revolution’ given that China’s CO2 emissions have increased by 237% over the same period, substantially because of a massive increase in coal-fired electricity generation.
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Paul Homewood now has a quick analysis of the BBC article pushing the Ember narrative:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/04/12/fossil-fuel-emissions-from-electricity-set-to-fall-bbc/#more-63495
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“Ross McKitrick: The important climate study you won’t hear about
Challenges trends in climate simulations”
https://financialpost.com/opinion/ross-mckitrick-the-important-climate-study-you-wont-hear-about
The paper referred to can be found here:
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2022JD037472
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Robin; Those Ember statistics for China are rather selective which is no surprise.
A quick websearch took me to the EIA website (https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53959) which says:
“China has steadily increased its electricity generation over the past 20 years, reaching 7,600 terawatthours (TWh) in 2020 from 1,280 TWh in 2000, according to our recently updated Country Analysis Brief.
China has been increasing the share of non-fossil fuels in its electricity generation, but coal remains a predominant source. In 2020, China generated 4,775 TWh from coal-fired power plants, a 63% share of China’s electricity generation. In 2000, coal accounted for 77% of China’s electricity generation (992 TWh). In the intervening 20 years, non-fossil fuels, including hydroelectric, wind, and solar generation, grew to 27% (2,058 TWh) of China’s generation mix, from 17% (221 TWh) in 2000.”
It is very clear that coal has met the lion’s share of the rise in output. The non-FF sources are not even keeping up with the increase, let alone displacing coal in the way inferred by Ember.
There is an excellent graphic on the webpage but I don’t know how to post it on here.
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Mark, that is a good example of why I think the science is still important. Accelerated warming in the tropical mid troposphere was was supposed to be THE irrefutable signal of anthropogenic greenhouse gas warming. They never could find it, but STAR offered them some hope that they would eventually – it was just a case of doing the measurements correctly; now the STAR data agrees closely with UAH – no accelerated warming. Science and data wins.
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US mag EdWeek
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/opinion-students-have-climate-anxiety-heres-what-educators-need-to-be-able-to-help-them/2023/04
I glance .. this line is BS, so I expect the whole article is
“Teachers and administrators agree that climate change education is *critical*”
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ITV local newsPR
“Oh look not-dig farming is magic and good for the planet ..low CO2”
… https://twitter.com/NickSmithITV/status/1646544674092359681
.. Political greens love magical thinking
there are reasons why the real world is different, and that big farming corps don’t use these methods
Dreams are not the same as reality.
In another item their Climate champion the weather woman Laura Tobin had FLOWN to French Guiana to do a live report from the Jupiter satellite launch
There was no actual news, cos rain had stopped the launch.
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Followup the presenter @NickSmithITV on Apr 11 (after Easter, but still half term)
£180 to go from Bristol to Newcastle (booked well over a month in advance)
For the privilege of standing most of the way because the train is overbooked
… welcome to modern rail travel in the UK
I could have flown much quicker and cheaper
– and quite easily could have driven at under half the cost (even with fuel prices as they are)
– but trying to do the right thing environmentally… quite frustrating really.
I tested megabus booking 6 weeks in advance
Basically Bristol to London is 3 hours (£4 or £5),
London to Newcastle is 9 hours (£13)
So possible in one day, but since the nightbus is the same price I’d use that
Direct leave Bristol at 5pm arrive Newcastle at midnight £23
Seems to me he’s taking a direct train from Bristol Central to NewC
Takes 5 hours
Even on the train the trick is to go Bristol Parkway via London – NewC is 5 hours and some trains after 9am cost £70
(even if you connect from Bristol central first)
(In London you have to use the tube to get to the Newcastle train)
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BTW Buckfastleigh solar farm substation has been on fire
BBC report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65275192
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OK you can have gast urbines on a truck/lorry but what’s the biggest power you can get ?
cos greeny RCH with the help of PR agency Carbon Pants has won an IPSO judgement against Telegraph’s Robert Tombs
.. https://twitter.com/RaveCozensHardy/status/1646559233817575447
Her words “Tombs wrote a statement that said “a gas – turbine generator small enough to go on the back of a lorry
will produce the same electricity, faster and more reliably,
than 10 off shore wind turbines the size of the Eiffel Tower”.
The generator was a Trent SGT-A65TR:”
I found this article about the SGT-A45 MOBILE power station says
“Siemens also introduced its other units in portfolio, the bigger SGT-A65TR aeroderivative”
(55MW Trent 60)
https://techcabal.com/2017/11/01/siemens-launches-fast-power-solutions/
“The Siemens SGT-A65 (formerly Industrial Trent 60)
is a 50-55 MW three-shaft, axial flow, aeroderivative industrial 50/60 Hz gas turbine based on the Rolls-Royce Trent 800 high-bypass turbofan aircraft engine developed for the Boeing 777”
http://fi-powerweb.com/Engine/Industrial/Trent-60-MT30.html
Another article : a FT8 MOBILEPAC gas power station 30MW fits in an Antonov aircraft
One trailers contains the gas turbine, electric generator, exhaust collector, diffuser, and engine lube oil systems, and start package
Second trailer carries switchgear etc.
https://www.power-eng.com/gas/mobile-gas-turbines-quick-and-reliable-emergency-power-for-those-in-need/
Here’s an article about the now operational Keadby2
A rather large trailer takes the 840MW turbine 2 miles
https://www.sse.com/news-and-views/2020/05/world-leading-keadby-2-turbine-arrives-in-north-lincolnshire/
What do 10 turbines generate ? Anyone ?
8.5MW turbines are in use. so that’s 85MW
at a typical 40% capacity factor that’s 34MW average generation
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/weather/topstories/uk-weather-burning-hot-heatwave-to-strike-as-plumes-of-searing-african-heat-hit-britain/ar-AA19QRCC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bb3eb3d2e44e4088b5b034531e7ef5eb&ei=44
“UK weather: ‘Burning hot’ heatwave to strike as plumes of searing African heat hit Britain
Story by Dan Falvey • 11h ago”
get your factor xxx out
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Given that Northern Ireland’s GHG emissions barely register on a global scale, I should have thought that the failure to have a government in Stormont represents so many more problems than this:
“Lack of NI government puts net zero targets at risk, UK climate adviser warns
Climate Change Committee says little hope of getting on track if Stormont power sharing not restored soon”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/15/northern-ireland-government-net-zero-climate-change-committee
Still, priorities, eh? Apparently, “realism” involves devastating its farming economy:
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Jaime:
Well, it is and it isn’t important.
Doing science the Feynman way, which the response to this lack of predicted tropical mid troposphere signal just isn’t, is always important, in and of itself. Even if the result had absolute zero political significance. Even if no human lives were going to be affected, one way or the other, by policies that purported to be based on the falsified-and-thus-bogus science in question. The purity of science matters, in and of itself.
But with Net Zero we’re headed for policy-caused catastrophe that will cost many thousands of millions of lives, as Jordan Peterson, among many others who are not climate science specialists, has been pointing to, with great passion. (And with higher YouTube viewing figures than most, bless him.)
How do we derail that train? That is is the single most important question. Compared to which …
You get the rest.
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Do we want to derail that train?
Wouldn’t it be better to encourage the elites in their self-destruction, which would leave those of us who survived to build our own New Jerusalem?
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“Climate sceptics sneak unsound research into peer-reviewed journals, scientists warn”
The main article discussed is one by the Die Kalte Sonne guys. I haven’t read it, so can’t comment on the criticisms. But the rather slapdash one by the Italian physicists last year also gets a dishonourable mention:
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33CU2GB
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Bill: Too Marxist-Leninist for me. Out of such destruction, especially of the poor, comes yet more destruction and tyranny. It’s been tried. No thanks.
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“High costs and uncertainties cast a chill over Britain’s heat pump market
Jillian Ambrose
Energy correspondent
What can be done to boost sales of the green alternative to gas boilers?”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/15/high-costs-and-uncertainties-cast-a-chill-over-britains-heat-pump-market
They’ll never accept that the UK population isn’t stupid and is well aware that heat pumps are expensive and often leave homes cold. The reason that the great British public isn’t rushing to adopt heat pumps is because they know that their existing gas boilers work.
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Mark – thanks for the link, liked this quote –
“Yet although heat pumps can transform 1 kilowatt of green electricity into 3kW-worth of heat, their benefits have been overshadowed by concerns about cost”
well that sells heat pumps for me, I want mine now, but wonder why they say “1 kilowatt = 3kW-worth of heat” ? why not use kilowatt to kilowatt, or am I missing something?
plus, as you say my gas boilers works in the cold IOM, when it’s cold in winter it warms the house in 30mts.
I have a idea, divide the UK in 2, bottom half get heat pumps (heat wave every year it seems) & top half watch.
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Michael Shellenberger’s account has abruptly disappeared from Twiter.
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Mike: Any reason given?
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It seems there right now. https://twitter.com/shellenberger
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His last tweet doesn’t pull its punches
The ISD is the org the BBC guy tried citing to Musk about increased hate speech last week.
A severe lack of examples hindered his case!
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iGas Exploration at Glenworth near Lincoln has been given permission by local council
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Richard, re. your comment on 15th April. As I’ve said. I’m not sure we can derail that train. It will derail itself eventually, but at huge cost to society and the economy. But exposing the fraud any way we can, be it revealing the absurdity of the Net Zero sums which don’t add up, or revealing the extremely poor science upon which the supposed ‘climate crisis’ is predicated can do no harm and may hasten the derailment. A few years ago, sceptics pointing to UAH as evidence that the troposphere wasn’t warming nearly as fast as climate models predicted were sneeringly informed that it was an outlier. Now that STAR has been recalibrated and falls in line with UAH v 6.0, it seems that RSS is the outlier and the evidence for the lack of stratospheric warming is even stronger. The problem is conveying this information to the wider public.
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Ed Hoskins has been busy – always worth a look to see what he’s up to:
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/3-graphs-say-it-all-for-renewables/
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/the-minor-greenhouse-gasses-co2-ch4-n2o/
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/progress-and-costs-of-uk-weather-dependent-renewables-2002-2022/
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2022-weather-dependent-renewables-in-germany-uk-and-france/
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/comparing-power-generation-technologies/
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Thanks Richard. It was definitely down for a while. It was probably just squirrels that had to be chased out of Twitter’s gears. There seems to be lots of new quirks popping up there.
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Mike: Twitter wobbles I call them. I had an interesting taste of that on my second tweet after breaking my two year ‘fast’ from tweeting on 1st February. Somebody tried to take it down. There are indeed quirks – both in algorithms and the actions of personnel. At least that’s the way I interpret them.
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Jaime:
When Net Zero is finally derailed there will be, as always, historians who emphasize the impersonal forces that put paid to it and others who point to the agency of key individuals. (It can easily be the wrong individuals too!) But this is where I opt for pessimism of the intellect yet optimism of the will. I agree with Churchill in 1941 (or was it really 1940?) that you have to fight as if victory is possible and depends on you, otherwise you ensure the most pessimistic outcome will prevail. See the quote over on John’s thread two days ago.
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Windfarm comapny Orsted are destroying much of the ocean wildlifewith their windfarms
..that’s not much reported
but them sponsoring a few people to plant seagrass seaweed was given the full PRasNews treatment today by BBC Radio Humberside, ITV local newsPR Show, BBC local News PR Show,
The local eviroment reporter/green-activist gave it the full hyperbole
“Industry has destroyed nature in the sea, planting seagrass is a huge absorber of CO2”
is it ?
Well as long as they plants are alive and gri[[ing the seabed
If the sea rips them up and washes them ashore they will decay and put CO2 back into the atmosphere.
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ITV local newsPR have the Lincolnshire girl on who has just got back from being a post mistress in Antarctica.
They were hoping to air some Global Warming scareporn
Sadly for them she reported that
“the penguin babies were one month late going into the water. this year, due to too much snow”
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John Cadogan compares a vehicle with a V6 to a similar EV and finds it emits 222 grams of CO2 per KM while the EV emits 240 per KM by charging on Australia’s grid. The EV’s battery also starts out with a seven and a half ton CO2 deficit. He gives sources for all his data:
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It looks like Michael Shellenberger got his twitter handle changed from @ShellenbergerMD to @Shellenberger .
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John Cadogan Just did another video where he corrects a major factor of two error in the above video. He mixed up a numerator with a denominator. the EV only emits120 grams per km rather than 240:
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I only just realised Twitter has been slapping a warning over my tweets due to
me using the hashtag#ClimatePorn
Instead of showing them directly Twitter stuck a warning over them saying
“May contain sensitive content”
For gods sake I thought the hashtag #ClimatePorn sums it up
but seems like Twitter just takes the sub-word “porn” and starts suppressing me
Cockup rather than conspiracy
The thing was that warning doesn’t show up for me
so I didn’t even know.
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I suspect his maths is still flawed
cos you really have to compare the full elements end to end
The actual grid vs a zero renewables grid
that’s cos the latter can have much LESS infrastructure and run flat out
The actual grid has got a bigger Carbon footprint than expected
cos you
#1 mine and process all the resources for the additional infrastructure
#2 Run the conventional plant on standby a lot so run less efficiently
Then you need to factor the additional materials for the heavier EV
and consider that weight imposes more wear on the road.
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Hurrah! The two foreign prannets who want the UK to stop producing oil and gas and thought that camping on Dartford Bridge would force the UK government to obey them have been given proper jail terms.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/21/just-stop-oil-protesters-jailed-for-dartford-crossing-protest
Three years for Morgan Trowland (a Kiwi) and two years and seven months for Marcus Decker/Carambola/De/Gurmasix/Hylobates (German). Trowland got a longer sentence because he has six previous convictions whereas Decker only has one.
More later, perhaps, but right now I’m off to Poland. I want Poland to stop factory-farming pheasants so I am going to climb up a bridge in Warsaw, poo in a bag and sing songs about Gandhi and Martin Luther King. Who wants to bet that the Polish government bans factory-farmed pheasants before the bag is full? (I’m betting against.)
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PS: In less happy news, one of XR’s and IB’s many vicars was sentenced to only five weeks for blocking a road in Bishopsgate.
https://insulatebritain.com/2023/04/20/breaking-courts-prove-themselves-to-be-morally-bankrupt-as-five-people-are-jailed-in-one-week-for-vowing-to-continue-in-civil-resistance/
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PPS: And Cathy Eastburn, the globetrotting gong bath therapist, didn’t even get a jail term for blocking the M25.
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/04/20/brighton-campaigners-found-guilty-of-public-nuisance-over-m25-protest/
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R4TODAY tomorrow Thought For The Day will feature a sceptic calling out the mad Global Warming cult
.. /sarc Well it would in a fair world.
Today TfD was someone laying it on thick about Climate Change and need to act now and that we have done nothing so far
then in the last 4 seconds he tacked on a mention of the nun Julian of Norwich and hazelnuts, so he could claim his Climate Propaganda is Christian.
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Shock horror probe! The main founder of Eschatonanist Revelry (XR) shops at Waitrose!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22109854/extinction-rebellion-leader-gail-bradbrook-exposed-eco-hypocrite/
Here is Bradbrook’s response:
Pompous, angry and unconvincing regurgitations of things XR has said many times before about its hypocrisy – and no mention at all of why Bradbrook uses Waitrose, Britain’s poshest and usually most expensive supermarket. There are plenty of others in Stroud, yet her supporters (elsewhere on Twitter) say that she is short of money.
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8:18pm on GBnews Benjamin Butterworth said
“Fact … last year we saw a third of Bangladesh underwater”
That’s utter #FakeNews
#1 He meant Pakistan
#2 “third” bit was a MYTH
see https://twitter.com/HowardCCox/status/1592187400091934721
but #Ofcom don’t give an F
when misinformers are #GreenSupremacist
or #WokeSupremacist they’ll never ask for a correction.
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h/t – https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/04/20/julia-hartley-brewers-furious-clash-with-extinction-rebellion-activist/
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dfhunter: Thanks for the link to the JHB/JSO interview. I was not impressed. JHB has the right instincts and I think she understands the issues. The problem is that she cannot stay calm when faced with absurdity or a failure to answer the question. The result is that, to the neutral observer, her shouting at and talking over him probably makes her appear as unreasonable as him. In fact, at times he seemed to be the one trying to be reasonable. Better surely to stay calm, let him make his case and then calmly demolish it?
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“Earth Day: How to talk to your parents about climate change”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65339214
Alternatively, perhaps parents should talk to their children about climate change, and teach them some home truths.
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Robin, you’d have to be a saint to remain calm talking to that blustering moron. JHB challenges him about his lie that ‘the end of civilisation’ will be caused by climate change. His response: ‘It’s not me saying that, it’s the chief diplomat of the world, Antonio Guterres’. Then he talks about ‘hard science’ from David King! He’s a total idiot and a fixated, brainwashed climate change cult member. No amount of calm debate (or exasperated shouting) is going to deter him from his views. JHB should have calmly stated as such and shut down the interview early. That would have been far more effective. Patience is not always a virtue.
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Just Stop Oil has announced that it will continue its traffic-blocking slow-marches on London’s streets ‘until our genocidal government ends new oil and gas’ (‘genocidal government’ is an old Hallam catchphrase):
https://juststopoil.org/2023/04/24/just-stop-oil-we-wont-stop-until-our-genocidal-government-ends-new-oil-and-gas/
That press release includes quotes from two JSO slow-marchers. Here they are in full:
#1
#2
Is it xenophobic to point out that #1 is French and #2 is Polish?
Both have been here for a while but I don’t think either is a British citizen.
It’s daft and undemocratic for anyone to say that they’ll block roads until the government obeys them but for foreigners to do it…
Well, it’s a bit ill-mannered, no?
And I doubt that Brits would get away with it in France or Poland. (Especially France.)
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PS: I agree with Robin G’s comment about the JHB vid.
PPS: Bigger than the Berlin Wall? That was 96 miles long.
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“The inhumanity of the green agenda
The ‘sustainability’ regime is impoverishing the world.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/24/the-inhumanity-of-the-green-agenda/
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To quote Raymond Bradley, “Excuse me while I puke.” Michael E Mann wins Humanist of the Year award:
https://t.co/Jmzj0Em6wB
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Mike,
Definitions of humanism abound, and they are complex and multifarious. I’m far from convinced that Dr Mann’s work fits in with my views regarding humanism (a concept which I broadly favour).
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There’s actually a hydrogen car company named Hopium:
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/luxury-hydrogen-auto-maker-hopium-puts-development-of-its-only-car-on-the-backburner-as-share-price-slumps/2-1-1432924
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“BP faces rebel shareholders over new climate goals”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65385834
For all my occasional optimism that net zero is about to crash and burn, this sort of thing demonstrates that we have a long road ahead. Climate alarmism is deeply entrenched within the establishment. The final sentence quoted above demonstrates an ongoing disconnect with reality, IMO. I’m glad my pension isn’t under the control of any of those people…
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Because devastating drought in the Horn of Africa is all our fault.
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/drought-in-the-horn-of-africa-exposing
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Mark – another BBC non story – never heard/or will put money in any they quoted.
“The pension funds have £440m invested in BP, which represents less than 1% of the company’s total shares. But they manage the pensions of more than a third of the UK’s workers so are an influential voice.”
I would worry if 1% have “an influential voice.” tell them to invest elsewhere (aka bugger off then)
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Jaime – thanks for the link, the gravy train keeps rolling.
with h/t to Mike’s comment above –
“Excuse me while I puke.” Michael E Mann wins Humanist of the Year award:”
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Good to see a GBnews breakfast producer strongly calling out Chris Skidmore’s CONFLICT of INTEREST
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see the Guardian is pushing another donation push – “The free press is under attack from multiple forces. Media outlets are closing their doors, victims to a broken business model. In much of the world, journalism is morphing into propaganda, as governments dictate what can and can’t be printed. In the last year alone, hundreds of reporters have been killed or imprisoned for doing their jobs. The UN reports that 85% of the world’s population experienced a decline in press freedom in their country in recent years. bla bla”
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An admission that April has been cold, we seem to be witnessing the end of the claim that spring is arriving ever earlier (after all, it isn’t), and the narrative has now morphed seamlessly into one of extreme cold and heat:
“April’s cold weather shows its time to fill our gardens with hardier plants, say experts
Top gardeners advise use of tougher varieties that can cope with extremes of heat and cold as conditions disappoint growers”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/30/april-cold-weather-gardens-hardier-plants-extremes-heat-cold
Amusingly, that wet March arrived shortly after claims that we were heading into a prolonged drought (due to climate change, naturally). Incidentally, make an internet search using search terms like “Guardian [or BBC] spring arriving earlier”, and the unfolding narrative is interesting to observe.
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Excellent article on how the govt’s latest windfall taxes will lead to a lose-lose outcome of lower tax revenues and reduced energy security:
https://watt-logic.com/2023/04/26/impact-of-windfall-tax/
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Mikehig – thanks for the above Watt-Logic link.
I find the graph – https://i0.wp.com/watt-logic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/oil-and-gas-production-apr-23.jpg?resize=1024%2C551&ssl=1
very telling & agree with “Even when compared with the Committee on Climate Change’s predictions for a dramatic reduction in oil and gas demand to 2050, these figures are very concerning.”
ps – never sure if my graph link will work.
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Quelle surprise:
“Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/02/many-europeans-want-climate-action-but-less-so-if-it-changes-their-lifestyle-shows-poll
And this is where net zero will unravel, eventually, but not before a lot of money has been wasted and a lot of harm has been caused.
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Meanwhile, as always, it’s all about the money:
“Green investment funds pushing money into fossil fuel firms, research finds
BlackRock and L&G among asset managers using funds with ESG label to invest in coal, oil and gas”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/02/green-investment-funds-pushing-money-into-fossil-fuel-firms-research-finds
So much for all that talk by Mark Carney and others of “stranded assets”. Fossil fuel assets are anything but stranded, and investors know it.
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MikeHig and dfhunter, the Daily Sceptic has more:
“U.K. Could Lose 75% of its Energy Supply by 2050”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/05/02/u-k-could-lose-75-of-its-energy-supply-by-2050/
Robin is of the view that FIRES are sceptics. If they’re not, they certainly do a lot to promote the sceptical cause.
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dfhunter: yes, that graph is more than a little concerning, especially since the CCC “benchmark” is itself a big cut in output. It’s a shame the graph doesn’t also show total oil and gas consumption which would highlight our increasing dependence on foreign supplies.
Mark H: I’m not sure where the “one quarter” figure comes from since, from the bar plots, the FIRES outlook is for nearly 600 TWh versus the highest of the other forecasts of 1600 TWh? The article also starts by talking with “The United Kingdom is likely to have barely a quarter of the energy in 2050” whereas the graph and later text makes clear that it is referring to electricity only.
Whatever, it’s not a pretty picture!
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Mark – from your Guardian link –
“And asked what they thought of a ban on fossil fuel cars, only in Spain and Italy were more people happy with the idea than opposed to it – with the level of opposition in countries such as France and Germany, at more than 60%, almost double the support.”
wonder what the UK % was?
notice the Germans can’t decide on 9 or 10 % on –
“Even more radical proposals, such as voluntarily eating no more meat and dairy and having fewer children than you would like, were supported by between barely 10% (Germany) and 19% (Italy), and 9% (Germany) and 17% (Italy) respectively.”
as to “individual initiatives including buying only secondhand clothes”
as it happens I have some Budgie Smugglers in a drawer that are up for auction – antbody interested?
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ps – they may just fit an ant, as in Ant & Dec 🙂
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Mark – another thing from your link.
I had thought YOUGOV was a government quango/org set up to inform us. silly me.
partial quote from the “about” page (the rest is worth a read as well)
“YouGov is an international online research data and analytics technology group.
Our mission is to supply a continuous stream of accurate data and insight into what the world thinks, so that companies, governments and institutions can make informed decisions.”
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Great video by Scotty Kilmer on what a mess plastic recycling is:
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April mean temperature in the UK turned out to be almost exactly the average for the period 1991-2020. After peaking in 2011, April months are becoming cooler. The signal of natural climate variability superimposed upon a more general warming since 1890 is very clear for the month of April in the UK, but Spring in general shows the same pattern. With the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation now in negative phase, I think we have probably seen the last of a strong warming trend in spring. May 2023 is not looking too promising. I’m still having to light the woodburner!
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/climate-crisis-update-april-in-the
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“Central banks raising interest rates makes it harder to fight the climate crisis
Thomas Ferguson and Servaas Storm
Higher rates slow the renewable energy transition and shield oil and gas producers from competition by low-carbon producers”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/06/central-banks-interest-rate-hike-climate-crisis
Much to disagree with or ponder in the article, but for me this was the important bit:
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The Daily Sceptic has posted an article from the Telegraph which explains how the energy suppliers are “greenwashing” their tariffs via the use of REGOs (Renewable Energy Guarantees of Origin):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/dirty-secret-premium-green-energy-deals/
This allows them to charge a premium for “100% renewable” tariffs while actually supplying FF-sourced electricity at times when renewable output is low. Apparently REGOs are cheap – about £5 per MWh today, having risen from 22p 5 years ago. Even so, £2bn has been spent on them in that time. Assuming an average cost of £2 (to keep the maths simple), that works out at one million GWh which must cover a good proportion of domestic power consumption.
Apparently there is rising pressure to stop the practice. Now, if only they would start offering renewable-only tariffs where supply would be cut off when there is insufficient renewable/zero CO2 output. My guess is the EdF with their nuclear fleet, fast-shrinking though it is, would be the only player.
PS. If there is a thread which would be a better home for this comment, please re-post it: I couldn’t find one.
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“BBC unveils Bike Bureau for green broadcasting”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-65511794
I suppose that will nicely offset the BBC’s carbon footprint from worldwide sporting events such as the football world cup (sarc).
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“Climate scientists first laughed at a ‘bizarre’ campaign against the BoM – then came the harassment
Former Bureau of Meteorology staff say claims they deliberately manipulated data to make warming seem worse are being fed by a ‘fever swamp’ of climate denial”
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/may/07/climate-scientists-first-laughed-at-a-bizarre-campaign-against-the-bom-then-came-the-harassment
The article does, near the end, provide a link to Jennifer Marohasy’s response, from which it seems that she was given very little time to respond:
“The Guardian, Temperatures, Misinformation (Part 1)”
https://jennifermarohasy.com/2023/05/the-guardian-temperatures-misinformation-part-1/
I would like to think that all Guardian readers would read both with an open mind, then draw their own conclusions. But will they?
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“The dirty secret behind premium ‘green’ energy deals
Millions of households are being ‘duped’ into believing their electricity is clean, experts say”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/dirty-secret-premium-green-energy-deals/
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‘Fever swamps’ are becoming more common and more extensive because of the climate crisis. Especially denialist fever swamps. But typical of reporting by the Guardian, when you examine the facts, it appears that the alleged fever swamps are just assemblies of cool heads. Jennifer Marohasy has the coolest of heads (I never knew that Gandhi nicked one of his most famous sayings from a trade union activist!):
https://jennifermarohasy.com/2023/05/the-coronation-the-guardian-temperatures-misinformation-part-2/
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Jaime – beat me to the above link.
and snippet from the “Guardian” link.
“Plummer says when the bureau was accused of conspiring to make warming seem worse, he thought it was initially “bizarre and laughable”.
“But then we heard climate scientists in Australia and overseas were receiving death threats or getting hate messages and there were personal attacks on our own people. Then it gets serious and raised a big concern about where this was all going. Would we end up in some politicised inquiry that was potentially career-ending?
“My biggest concern was for the health of the climate scientists. They did that work admirably and stuck with it but for a significant number it affected their health and wellbeing and their professional standing. They were concerned it was going to damage their careers.”
not a nice place to be it seems.
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“Renewables, nuclear and fossil fuels: The UK’s changing energy mix”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63976805
I’m not sure why the BBC chose to put this article up now, but I hope that people read it. Some of those who are more gullible regarding net zero might learn something, such as the fact that in 2022 wind produced only 4.1% of the UK’s energy requirements, and solar came in at a measly 0.7%, while oil and gas between them accounted for 76%. Energy, not electricity, of course, but if have to go 100% electric then those figures are very relevant indeed.
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Thoughts, anyone? It occurs to me that this might be the start of an attempt to downplay sceptics’ claims about unusual weather related to La Nina or El Nino by suggesting that they might not after all be purely natural phenomena. If they can say that we are causing them, or contributing to them, then the alarmist case is bolstered:
“Black summer bushfires may have caused rare ‘triple dip’ La Niña, study suggests
Smoke aerosols from the fires interacted with clouds to cool the south-eastern Pacific, helping the wet weather pattern to form”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/11/black-summer-bushfires-may-have-caused-rare-triple-dip-la-nina-study-suggests
It’s here if anyone wishes to take a look:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg1213
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Mark, they’ve been trying for a while to demonstrate a link between increased frequency/more extreme El Nino/La Ninas and climate change (TM). Unsuccessfully. This looks like a particularly laughable attempt to blame aerosols from bushfires (presumed to have been caused by climate change).
Meanwhile, back in Blighty, Betts of the Met blames the heavy rain in Exeter on climate change.
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/betts-of-the-met-office-on-twitter
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First full-size driverless bus trials to begin in Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-61216302
quote – “Until legislation changes, there will always be a safety driver, but Ms Simpson hopes the law will “eventually be signed off” so drivers don’t need to be in the cab and can focus on a secondary role interacting with passengers.”
sounds like a plan, so we still pay for a driver, but he now comes for a chat!!!
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Can we trust Jem Bendell, Professor of Sustainability at the University of Cumbria, now “Davos dropout?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/reboot-environmental-movement-protect-freedom/
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Jaime – not sure, read your link & liked this at the end –
“6. Ironclad protection of human rights and civil liberties. A Left-Right coalition can hopefully agree on the crucial importance of individual rights and freedoms, such as the First Amendment right to free speech, as an indispensable bulwark against the authoritarian overreach of governments that too often answer to moneyed interests rather than the people.
A population stripped of civil liberties in the name of an “emergency,” whether a pandemic or climate change, is a sitting duck for abuse by the powerful.
It is the giant multinational corporations, their captured government agencies and their crony politicians who must have their freedom to impose their will on the population taken away, not the other way around.”
sounds a bit “Conspiracy” at the end!!!
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update on – https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/world-s-first-driverless-bus-service-doesn-t-quite-live-up-to-the-hype/ar-AA1b3QST?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=14da96fd43a64403a6c30a4e4be7a214&ei=45
snippet – “It can do 50mph, but the media minders were nervous for anything going wrong during their “big moment”.
The reality is this is a pilot and requires double the manpower of a standard bus. There is also a ticket operator on board helping.”
you have to shake your head & wonder why.
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That was then:
“Wild garlic, nettles and berries … how foraging went mainstream
This article is more than 2 years old
Once it was the domain of upmarket chefs. Now thousands are collecting ingredients when out for a walk”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/mar/14/wild-garlic-nettles-and-berries-how-foraging-went-mainstream
This is now:
“Excessive foraging for wild garlic and mushrooms in UK ‘a risk to wildlife’
Experts say foragers taking too much, selling the goods commercially and harming fragile ecosystems”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/13/excessive-foraging-for-wild-garlic-and-mushrooms-in-uk-a-risk-to-wildlife
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Just Stop Oil gave a lecture in Exeter last night. It was called ‘Student Welcome Talk’, so presumably it attempted to recruit students from the University of Exeter.
URL:www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/student-welcome-talk-how-to-just-stop-oil-exeter-tickets-630292721497
Its blurb included nonsensical doomwankery that JSO has been repeating for more than a year. For example:
And yet here is a message that Richard Betts tweeted to the JSO youngsters who were giving the lecture:
URL:twitter.com/richardabetts/status/1657044913295433728
Betts is the Professor of Climate Impacts at the University of Exeter. It’s extremely unlikely that he agrees with JSO’s interpretation of the science of climate change impacts, so perhaps he wanted to go so that he could set them straight (let’s hope so, anyway), but telling them that he hoped their talk went well is not a good look. Using misrepresented science (and insane guff about the UK’s ‘genocidal government’) to recruit students to any group is surely not something that a professor should encourage in any way at all, and when the group is a disruptive political cult whose young members often get arrested and sometimes drop out of uni shortly after joining…
(Mark, I love wild garlic. Luckily, it grows in my thoroughly re-wilded garden, so I don’t have to pillage it from SSSIs. I’ll be heading out to pick some after I’ve posted this. I hope that doesn’t make me a trendy Grauniadista.)
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The Guardian article associated with this tweet rather lets the cat out of the bag (perhaps unintentionally).
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“good and bad actors”? It’s almost as if the facts don’t matter any more: unqualified support is good, whereas disagreement with any part of the project is bad.
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Betts and Maslin are birds of a feather. Betts just made a rather good show of being Captain Sensible on climate change for quite a while, but he’s shown his true colours as a climate activist again and again. He’s defended climate activists in court, arguing that their breaking of the law is justified by the urgency of the situation, which is backed up by ‘the science’. I can’t think of any ‘climate scientist’ now who I don’t regard as a fraud.
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/climate-scientists-on-twitter-oh
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ITV local newsPR show
Long drought porn item from the Met Office
it rained 10 mins after
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So who is the reporter serving ?
5 days ago the @itvwestcountry weather presenter tweeted a FLOOD video
.. https://twitter.com/ITVCharlieP/status/1655980360008597520
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No, it’s not the first of April, whatever I think of the following:
“Sheep methane emissions testing ‘a UK first'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cekd4y0dp1jo
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The spikies (remember them?) weren’t impressed by last month’s fluffy Big One:
Blurb:
An interesting use of ‘mainstreaming’ there. When the term first arrived in NGO toolkits in the noughties it meant stealthily incorporating activist ideas into every corner of every bit of legislation. Perhaps the VisionOnTV narrator/creator meant that he and his chums had made ideas available to others who are less capable of getting those ideas passed into law.
Or perhaps he doesn’t know what mainstreaming means.
Anyway….
The video ends with stuff about millions dying and billions being displaced. Not implausible numbers but climate change wouldn’t be the only cause, as spikies would never tire of telling you if given the chance to speak plainly without the Murdoch-owned press getting in their way. Capitalism, colonialism, patriarchy, the Newbury bypass… They’d all be to blame.
Basically, we’re all doomed unless we all move to off-grid communes in Gloucestershire.
(I like the bit at the start of the video where the climate-concerned XR bloke kept wagging wings that were both fluffy and, in a very real sense, spiky.)
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Trust the Guardian to bring us the most pressing climate chaos news. This morning it concerns the plight (and flight) of the humble bumblebee, or at least an American variety. A study by North Carolina State University revealed that a bumblebee with its back legs fully laden with pollen when flying is 2oC hotter than one carrying no pollen. You know where the story goes from there. With climate chaos, bumblebees will be unable to carry as much pollen (no evidence given) so fewer plants will be pollinated which is of concern to agriculture (again no evidence presented whatsoever). Obvious strategies to firm up conclusions not even thought about let alone conducted – such as observing if bumblebees carry lighter loads or curtail their pollinating routes on hotter days.
A near perfect example of poor research seized upon by climate worriers (and the Guardian) and used to push scary climate porn. The technological skill behind the temperature measurements goes unmentioned and is lost within totally unwarranted climate bilge.
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Alan; from the little I know, the bumblebees’ carrying capacity is unlikely to have much influence on pollination. They are resilient, adaptable little buggers so will just make more trips back to the nest if they can’t carry as much. They usually forage within a few minutes’ flying time of their nests so any impact will be utterly negligible.
Also they are somewhat weather-dependent, especially early and late in the season. So a bit of warmth will likely extend their flying season and/or increase their active days and the hours within those days.
Total tosh, as you say.
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Mike I know very little about our native bumblebee species other than that, when I was a boy, bumblebee aerodynamics was a largely unknown subject and comments like “the buggers shouldn’t be able to fly” were commonly made. From there to harbingers of climate doom, bumblebees have their roles to play.
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I think the saying was that scientists said bumblebees cannot fly – fortunately no one told the bumblebees so they went on flying anyway. So much for scientists.
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Robin, be kind. Scientists said they didn’t understand how bumblebees flew (in other words the little buggers apparently broke the rules of aerodynamics as they were currently understood). An acknowledgment by scientists that they were ignorant was (and is) no bad thing.
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Hurrah! Another XRer has got a proper prison term. This time it’s for XR-related anti-Israel stuff rather than camping on a bridge for godnose why.
Mike Lynch-White, a co-founder of Scientist Rebellion* and very active in Burning Pink (aka Beyond Politics; another Hallam thing) and Heathrow Pause (drones near the airport; Hallam again), has got 27 months for criminal damage committed during a protest with yet another XR-related group he’s involved with, Palestine Action.
URL:twitter.com/ScientistRebel1/status/1658805435216850947
Lynch-White faces trials related to Burning Pink and Heathrow Pause protests in the next few months. Good luck, Mike! (Not.)
In other XR-related news…
Yesterday, an Australian was arrested in Westminster while shouting this: ‘I am 21 years old and I know that I do not stand a chance of having a future if our government continues to license new oil and gas.’
Our government?
That was at a JSO protest. JSO tweeted this today: ‘Who are the real criminals – the people wearing campaign T-shirts or the people licensing over a hundred new oil and gas licences, which are guaranteed to kill us all?’
Guaranteed to kill us all?
I used to keep a log of all the daft things said by climate change activists. I gave up because the daftness became increasingly widespread and extreme and I just couldn’t keep up.
If I still kept the that log, that quote from JSO would probably get a special mention. Human extinction guaranteed by the UK granting 100+ new oil and gas licences.
They really don’t care about truth, do they?
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*Is Lynch-White a scientist? Sort of. He abandoned a Physics PhD so that he could devote more time to XR.
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Alan,
https://www.businessinsider.com/bees-cant-fly-scientifically-incorrect-2017-12?r=US&IR=T
But I suspect you knew that.
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“Beyoncé Cardiff: Weighing up the climate cost of worldwide tours”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65635285
Which is all a bit upsetting if you’re bothered about that kind of thing. And yet….
Which is where the net zero project comes unstuck – people will, when asked, say they support it, but they’ll always find an excuse to justify their own pleasures and activities, even when that undercuts the net zero agenda.
And I wonder when the BBC is going to ask the same questions about its own activities? For instance, was it really necessary to send as many people as they did to the football World Cup last summer? Carbon footprints don’t seem to matter when it’s something the BBC is keen on.
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“Build houses out of used nappies, scientists urge
Up to 8% of sand in concrete and mortar could be replaced without significantly diminishing strength, study says”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/18/build-houses-out-of-used-nappies-scientists-urge
I leave this here with no comment. If interested, you can access the study here:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-32981-y
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Another reason not to live in the UK
As well as having terrible cold wet weather
it’s full of mad greenSupremacists like this Met Office sciency guy
“Media Advisor & Senior Operational Meteorologist with UK Met Office.”
See how the word “ONLY is doing a huge amount of lifting in his tweet
Summer is June July August
Of course it will make it through when reservoirs are 82% now
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“UK households with communal heating facing 350% rise in energy costs
Surge in energy costs filtering through to low-income households on shared heat networks”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/19/uk-households-with-communal-heating-facing-350-rise-in-energy-costs
Haven’t the Guardian and other climate worriers pushed heat networks as a solution for quite some time now? E.g.
“In the pipeline: networks to warm UK homes using surplus heat
Government plans to spend £45m on citywide systems and other technologies to reduce carbon output”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/28/in-the-pipeline-networks-to-warm-uk-homes-using-surplus-heat
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The Guardian strikes again! Reports that ‘scientists’, from Japan, say houses could be built with used baby nappies!
Up to 8% of the sand within concrete and mortar could be replaced with shredded used nappies. This would have ecological benefits (not specified), reduce the carbon footprint of housing (didn’t know sand had carbon within it) and find a use for otherwise non-recyclable material (no argument here).
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Looks like I was pipped by Mark earlier this morning. Both of us intrigued by the Japanese baby nappy story. Mark’s piece certainly wasn’t there when I submitted mine an hour later. What gives?
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Local radio news Green PR today is that Grimsby firm Myenergi is sacking 100 workers
context is missed
Oh lost a home charger subsidy grant scheme
Most Green Energy projects are unsustainable
cos they rely on subsidies, grants and PRtrickery.
The BBC failed to context that 100 jobs is a quarter of the workforce.
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I liked stewgreen’s comment because it provides the background and context the media ignore, not because “green” jobs have been lost. Every job loss is a personal tragedy.
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I can imagine the ads now:
‘Pamper yourself with a Pampers built eco-home’
‘Come home to a Huggies Home’
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7 months ago the founded tweeted hyperbolically about their growth
“This is what rapid growth looks like 💪🏼 ”
… https://twitter.com/JordeeBrompton/status/1576894810216022016
Jordan Brompton is the Co-Found of myenergi, which she launched in 2016 alongside her business partner Lee Sutton.
Local newspaper adds context
“orders of its staple Zappi electric vehicle charger and allied devices haven’t been maintained at anticipated levels, with the removal of consumer incentives also cited.”
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Lee Sutton employed her since 2014 in his 4Eco business
which went bankrupt in 2016
making people redundant
They blamed the government cutting the solar Feed In Tariff from 13p KWh to 4.5p
which at that time was still 50% higher then proper on demand power cost
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video : Bob Ward vs Daily Sceptic guy
.. https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1659557255878934531
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No Jaime (19May: 10.29 a.m.) they would come to be named “sh#thouses”.
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Alan K, any observations on this?
“Can ‘enhanced rock weathering’ help combat climate change?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65648361
Perhaps it’s unfair of me to ask a geologist, but can this stuff really operate as a safe fertiliser?
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As Willard might say – “Oh Guardian”:
“Why I stopped arguing about the climate emergency and tried the silent treatment instead
Helena Echlin
The sensible methods didn’t work, so I became a member of the Red Rebel Brigade. Now I feel I’m doing something useful”
Something useful!!!!
Well, it made me smile, more in disbelief than anything else.
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Mark, the “science” behind “enhanced (basalt) rock weathering” would appear to be O.K. The only factor I might question is the rate of weathering – whether it would occur fast enough ( but surely this would have been checked experimentally). And it might be quite effective as a fertiliser – reducing soil acidity and providing calcium and magnesium (but provide no nitrate, phosphate or other other nutrients), recall your O-level Geography where you learned that some of the most fertile areas were in volcanic terrains.
What is questionable is the effectiveness of this procedure to reduce atmospheric CO2. I cannot see how enhanced rock weathering can even dent the 37 billion tons of CO2 released each year. [Data from BBC]. The BBC suggest it would take 4 tons of weathered basalt to remove 1ton of CO2.
It looks to me like the featured win-win story of waste rock from a quarry being used as a fertiliser on local farm fields being commandeered by a CO2 removal story. The quarry wins by having waste fines removed, clearing the quarry floor allowing quarrying operations to proceed more effectively.
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This worries me more than anything:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65675247
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Thanks for the Echlin article, Mark. She’s an interesting and entertaining writer. She probably is sincerely worried about climate change but that doesn’t stop her making fun of herself and other climactivists.
The article made me do a bit of digging. Here are some other entertaining articles by Helena Echlin.
In 2000, she poked fun at academic bafflegab:
URL://web.archive.org/web/20001214205900/http://www.aretemagazine.com/2000/issuethree/helenaechlin.html
(The Sunday Times reprinted that article under the headline ‘How the Ivy League strangled literature’ and subhead ‘When Helena Echlin, an Oxford graduate, went to Yale to study English literature she learnt a whole new language – gibberish’.)
In 2001, when short of money a few months after the publication of her first novel she became a phone-sex worker called Jade:
URL://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/jun/03/gender.uk
In 2005, she became a secret agent for a brand of sausages:
URL://web.archive.org/web/20160706192459/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3638501/You-invited-me-just-so-you-could-buzz-me.html
She was paid to talk loudly in supermarkets about how marvellous the sausages were. But then she decided to do the same when she was with friends:
(I’m off down the epub to look for free Echlins.)
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John – agreed.
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I have no problem with this, save to the extent that if verges near road junctions aren’t cut back, it may create dangerous blind spots. Other than that, why not?
“Grass cutting reduced to support wildlife”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0xnw7pn0vo
But as for the way the article ends, oh dear oh dear…
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Sorry to be quiet of late but a phrase from Brendan O’Neill about Just Stop Oil this evening
I really like. The whole piece is called We need to talk about Just Stop Oil’s class privilege. Paywalled, sorry.
Concision yet comprehensive. Fact-lite meets its word-lite nemesis.
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The PJW video : police fail to enforce the law so workmen steps him and does the actual policing
so the GreenSupremacist police arrest him
to protect their green toff mates
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Half knowledge cultists
I met a guy the other day who spoke well and at first seemed to have good knowledge of history
Then he went of course “of course hydrogen is coming up as a great fuel”
What do you mean it’s not a proper fuel with great force like petrol or methane”
Him “but it’s a non polluting fuel”
Me “CO2 isn’t a pollutant and anyway hydrogen comes from treating methane with steam”
Him “No steam is used to extract hydrogen from the air” (utter crap)
And you can use wind farm electricity to split water”
Me “No it’s not economic, so no one does it”
Him “The tech is getting better so fast” (utter crap)
I mentioned Myenergi and its job losses and past bankruptcy.
“Oh what a great company, they did a great presentation at the Fully Charged sho” (That Robert Llewellyn EV PR operation)
I realised I was dealing with a green cultist.
Sad
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Pass me the smelling salts. The Met Office pours scorn on media hyperbole about ‘extreme heat’ in the UK for the end of spring. All I can say is, about time (about time that is, that we got ANY reasonably warm days this spring – I’ve just set a record for the maximum number of days gone without lighting the stove!).
https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/met-office-heaps-scorn-on-media-speculation
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Jaime,
As you know, here in west Cumbria, today is dull, mild (barely warm, certainly not hot), with a stiff cool breeze. I think I have seen 20C briefly on two days so far this year.
Gardens suffered last winter with two intense cold snaps and little mild weather. We lost quite a few longstanding plants. It wasn’t simply a northern phenomenon, as I have spoken to people from much further south who have said the same thing.
Still, some warm sunny days would be nice. It’s called summer.
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Rees Mogg ended his show having a cosy chat with a Green Future PR leader Marketing Humber MD, Diana Taylor
(Now rebranded as Dr Diana Taylor of Future Humber @DianaTaylor23)
She kept making hyperbolic claims
and instead of challenging JRM lapped it up “good to hear good news”
FFS Humber green corp Myenergi just fired quarter of it’s workforce
and media refuse to say it went bankrupt before.
Dr Diana had one line “97% of the local public support this green industry”
FFS a green PR person using a “97%” claim just like the infamous claim about “97% of scientists”
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Mark, I’ve got so used to cool weather now that 20C feels like a heatwave!
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It was sunny today, I wore shorts
However the north wind meant I needed a coat when I was on the bicycle , wore it when walked around town, not sweating.
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Senator Kennedy roasting the Deputy Secretary of State for Energy over Net Zero:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kennedy-stumps-biden-official-fifty-trillion-price-tag-climate-change
If only we had a few politicos like him….
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h/t – MarkyMark over on Biased BBC – “This Loneliness Awareness Week, the Loneliness Minister Baroness Barran has warned we are still in a ‘critical stage’ of tackling loneliness.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/loneliness-minister-its-more-important-than-ever-to-take-action
I have no problem with tackling loneliness, but do we really need a Minister/Baroness to guide us?
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It looks as though the campaign against gas cookers is ramping up:
“Action urged to cut gas cooker health risks”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65722603
The health line is being pushed, but the real reason seems to be GHG emissions:
The problem is that although the cited study does make the health link, it also offers a very simple solution that doesn’t involve swapping your gas cooker for an electric one. The study can be found here:
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/42/6/1724/737113
Among other things, these two statements caught my eye:
and:
In short, the eminently sensible option of external venting (whether of gas heating or of a gas cooker) eliminates the problem.
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Scotland : There’s a report just out which says in the 4 cities to implement LEZs, the emissions levels are now within legal limits probably due to the introduction of electric buses.
There’s no need for anyone else to change their vehicle.
Hmm the legal limits are arbitrary anyway
video https://youtu.be/AXbdDdL7kqs
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Similar arguments apply to London, actual road pollution measurements are often very low
Always ask Is It about what they say, it’s about ?
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XR JSO demos getting pushback
.. in a number of posts I posted new video after 8:45pm here
https://biasedbbc.tv/blog/2023/05/23/midweek-24-may-2023/comment-page-4/#comment-1237171
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I do like the idea of a Sceptic Wiki
I just bumped into the 2016 thread
Did anything ever get started ?
http://www.bishop-hill.net/discussion/post/2575529?currentPage=9
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stewgreen,
I’m not aware that anything came of it. FWIW, I try to treat Cliscep as a bit of a mini-Wiki, posting links to articles in the MSM and elsewhere as a comment under articles here, sometimes years after the Cliscep article was written. In that way, recent developments can be tracked to some extent.
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Looks like I shan’t be voting Labour in future. Starmer’s plans to stop future investments in new North Sea oil and gas but supporting ‘green’ ventures to transform Britain into a ‘green powerhouse’ have finally stripped any lingering allegiance I might have had. But who to support now?
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Alan,
You and I share this conundrum. This morning I was perusing the SDP website, and was disappointed to find that even they support phasing out ICE vehicles and replacing them with EVs, spending billions on CCS etc. As things stand I cannot vote for any political party.
In the absence of Jaime’s NOTA option, I will spoil my ballot paper, since I refuse to allow useless politicians to label me as apathetic.
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Tim Worsall doesn’t think Starmer has thought this through. What he said this morning was:
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Bravery or Rank Stupidity? Two Just Stop Protesters throwing orange paint powder on the rugby pitch during the Gallagher Premiership Rugby Union final on Saturday and interrupting the game. Would you risk being at the bottom of a scrum of irate rugby players incensed by a stupid interruption to their game? Not to mention literally thousands of fans who had paid good money to watch the final.
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Bill B; that Worsall article makes a good point.
However it would not surprise me if the Govt will just changed the rules and refused to return the money while threatening fines, etc on any company that tried to walk away. Indeed, I would almost expect it.
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Alan – similar JSO protest at snooker in April –
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/just-stop-oil-edred-whittingham-b2321693.html
sub heading for above – “Climate activism groups said they would step up protests in ‘new and inventive’ ways after throwing orange powder at the Crucible”
partial quote – “Wearing a “Just Stop Oil” T-shirt, Edred Whittingham interrupted the match on Monday between Robert Milkins and Joe Perry at the Crucible Theatre by jumping onto one of the tables and tipping out orange powder.
The 25 year-old is a philosophy, politics and economics student at Exeter University who has been involved in a number of previous Just Stop Oil protests.”
At least Barry Hearn is sticking up for the paying snooker fans – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/snooker/2023/04/20/just-stop-oil-snooker-protests-barry-hearn-legal-action/
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It seems we can never get enough of leading experts warning us of extinction:
“Artificial intelligence could lead to the extinction of humanity, experts – including the heads of OpenAI and Google Deepmind – have warned. Dozens have supported a statement published on the webpage of the Centre for AI Safety.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65746524
But wait, this is something new:
“Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war”.
What? No global warming? How queer!
But then we have:
“But others say the fears are overblown.”
Which paves the way for the BBC to warn us of the UK Conspiracy Movement of AI Deniers.
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Utter nonsense:
“Climate change to blame for up to 17 deaths on Mount Everest, experts say
Nepal’s head of tourism says variable weather on the mountain has led to one of the deadliest years on record”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/30/climate-change-to-blame-for-up-to-17-deaths-on-mount-everest-experts-say
Mount Everest “enjoys” variable weather constantly, and always has. This year’s deaths, though tragic, don’t exceed those in other tragic years. One reason why there are so many deaths is the massive number of amateur climbers paying professional climbers to get them to the top with the help of the valiant Sherpas. Nepal is issuing permits to control the numbers, but it’s big business.
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The article admits as much, by the way! Still, it got the headline, so job done.
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Here in Lincolnshire we have rain not rain.
Midday fine rain mist that doesn’t dampen the concrete.
Same now after 9pm.
Sure ostensibly we are in a 10 day no rain spell
but its the same as last year, in that it’s not actually dry cos every day there’s dew and mist rolling off the fields.
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We can use Twitter as a Wiki using hash tags
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It’s dry here in NW Cumbria and it’s going to get even drier as the high pressure cell to the west intensifies over the coming one or two weeks and solar insolation really gets going near mid summer. Quite a dramatic change from most of spring. The east of the country may benefit slightly from some foggy, foggy dew coming off the North Sea. We lived in a rain corridor in Lincolnshire just south of Boston. It was quite amazing just how localised the rain was. Areas to the east and west were much drier. I think it was caused by rain-bearing clouds being funnelled across the low-lying marshes by the hills just to the west. But then we moved to Cumbria and I realised what real rain was! It’s quite amazing just how variable the weather is across this tiny corner of the world we call the British Isles. Which makes it all the more annoying when climate change fanatics jump on every notable weather event to claim that it was caused by ‘climate breakdown’.
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Now more of this fine mist rain
the neighbours are doing the garden, wearing big overcoats
One is wearing one of those Russian hats
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Funny that this was never reported on UK Media, or did I miss it –
“https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/27/more-than-1500-arrested-at-extinction-rebellion-protest-in-the-hague?ref=upstract.com”
“Several Dutch celebrities among protesters, including Game of Thrones actor Carice van Houten”
well, if van Houten is involved I will sit up and not listen to celeb bullsh*t.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/31/labours-oil-and-gas-ban-shows-its-ready-to-fight-the-next-election-on-climate-issues
Somehow the comment below has made it through the moderators at the Guardian and has the highest number of recommendations!
“If anything is more likely to lose Labour a majority at the next election its promising to implement more ULEZ schemes, to make houses colder, to make blackouts more of a certainty. As the rest of Europe starts to back away from net zero commitments recognising that they negatively impact the working class the most and that people won’t vote to make themselves poorer Labour in the UK will, as Starmer always does, U turn on these policies.”
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It’s hard not to laugh:
“We’re a climate action hub in need of an electricity meter
Bulb hasn’t sent a form to the National Grid, and we can’t sign up with any other energy company”
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/jun/01/were-a-climate-action-hub-in-need-of-an-electricity-meter
“It’s ironic that a climate action hub has to rely on the National Grid, but you say a reliable electricity supply is vital for lighting, sound equipment and cooking.”
It’s also ironic that they recognise the need for reliability of supply but are pushing us towards a less reliable future….
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I just stumbled across this video about a massive project in Yorkshire to mine “Polyhalite”, a form of potash:
It’s a real good news story which should have earned banner headlines across the media – quite cheered me up!
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:Mike That mine is quite an old one. I and a colleague, both working as geologists in Saskatchewan which has its own potash mines managed a visit down the Boulby Mine in the first year of its operation in the late 1970s. Then it was extracting potassium chlorides (sylvite) rather than potassium sulphates (polyhalite). I wonder if ICI have now largely exhausted the chloride layers and are now forced to extract the polyhalite or close. I forgot why polyhalite was once deliberately ignored, but it is much less soluble so converting it into a usable fertiliser would be that more difficult.
I recall that my colleague and I were treated with much suspicion. I thought at the time that the mine owners or operators thought we might be spies for Saskatchewan but we were just there to see the geology. We noted quite a bit of faulting near the mine shaft and when we commented upon it was told that this was a deliberate siting of the shaft because as they mined further and further away from the shaft conditions would get progressively better and better. Total BS.
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Alan, Aiui this is a new project quite a long way from the Boulby mine (according to wiki maps).
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Mike Since you didn’t name the mine I consulted Google who failed me. It identified the deepest European mine as the Boulby Mine.
One can see from the photograph that the mine is not cut within sylvite or other coarsely crystalline ore deposit. Those do not have smooth walls and are of smaller diameter, they also begin to close as soon as they are cut. The opening seems to be more than 12 ft in diameter, much larger than in openings cut in crystalline ores.
I would very much like to visit this mine, but I know I never will.
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Alan; this is a new project called the Woodsmith mine – named after 2 geologists called Wood and Smith who identified the prospect, located near Sneaton, SE of Whitby.
It’s worth watching the YouTube video even though the presenter is rather gung-ho.
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I’m currently reading “The Fringes of Power” – John Colville’s Downing Street Diaries, mostly about the second world war, but covering in varying amounts of detail, the whole period from 1939 to 1955. I have noticed various references to the weather, often exclaiming that it has never been so hot, so wet, so dry etc (I paraphrase, having moved past the references in question). However, some entries from April 1945 caught my eye just now:
Of course, if it happened now, it would be man-made climate change. Then it was weather.
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More from Colville’s diaries:
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“Network of geothermal power stations ‘could help level up UK’
Many of Britain’s poorest towns are in areas with greatest potential for renewable energy, says report”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/02/network-of-geothermal-power-stations-could-help-level-up-uk
As I know nothing about this, a few thoughts/queries occur. Maybe Alan K can offer insights?
1. Is this much/any different from fracking?
2. To what extent is geology a factor? Does it make sense to prioritise disadvantaged areas, or does geology mean that geologically appropriate areas should be selected?
3. Is this reliable and capable of being cheap? If so, it looks like a much better option than solar and wind power, especially as it won’t intrude on the landscape and wildlife.
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Of course, it’s climate change, not weather. Anyone would think this sort of thing had never happened before (dry, followed by wet, followed by dry weather):
“Northern Ireland potato crops being hit by changing weather”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-65778102
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Yet more from Colville’s diaries. 1952 this time..
“Saturday, May 17th: A heatwave…
Sunday, May 18th: Heatwave intensified…
Monday, May 19th: Drove to London in shimmering heat…
Monday, August 11th: …I have been particularly slothful about this diary of late, partly because it has been such a hot summer…”
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Mikehig – Thanks for the vid link, cheered me up as well to see an engineering project in the UK going ahead without some activists objecting (or is to early to say that?)
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Dougie, yes we need more such projects! I suspect the article was a bit under-researched as it makes no mention of the Boulby mine which Alan K found via the web – already producing polyhalite.
Wrt activists, it looks as if the designers have done all they can to anticipate and counter objections: sinking the headgear into the ground; the epic conveyor-in-a-tunnel; etc..
However there will still be protests by the usual bunch of “bananas” – Block Anything New Anywhere Near Anything.
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Next town over JUN 10 AT 10 AM – JUN 18 AT 4 PM
Barton Great Big Green Week 2022
“1 going” 5 clicked the “interested” button
Hardly huge support, They’ve got the year label wrong it’s 2023
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More signs that the oil industry is going to cash in on carbon capture:
https://gcaptain.com/petrobras-using-carbon-capture-to-ramp-up-gas-production-raising-sustainability-questions/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-8e7dc110b6-170410014&mc_cid=8e7dc110b6&mc_eid=9275323244
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This might be of interest:
https://climatedebate.co.uk/
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Bob Ward gets shouty. At least he does come on against 2 skeptics, but he just shouts over them.
And doesn’t gain support on Twitter.
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Not much wind in western Scotland today, but wall to wall sunshine. SNP: “Oh no! We ‘invested’ in the wrong kind of ‘renewables’! The ‘climate crisis’ has resulted in a sunnier, less windy and much drier Scotland.”
Spokesman for the Water Scarcity team at the Scottish Environment Protection Agency (SEPA), Stephen McGuire, said: “Spring and Summer are crucial times of year for water demand and SEPA started regularly reporting on water scarcity at the end of April. Initially, there were early warnings of water scarcity in the north and west of the Scotland with rainfall and river flows low for the time of year. But in recent weeks we have experienced more rapidly drying conditions and river levels are now very low across much of the Scotland.
“We have already issued alerts for water scarcity in the northwest and south central areas, and with little rain in the immediate forecast we expect the situation to escalate quickly and extend across a much wider area in the coming weeks. SEPA will continue to report weekly on the emerging situation.”
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There’s a minor point here
Yes at minute 5:50 Dr Renee mispoke
She meant to say “temperatures were higher hundred years ago in the Medieval Warm Period yet CO2 was not as high as today so you can’t just assert temps are proportionate”
.. instead she totally misspoke “world temperatures were higher 400 years ago and CO2 was higher than today”
Then this debunker guy turns up goes to make a complicated tweet which does cite sources quoting #1 old temperatures #2 historic CO2
yet his tweet wording is screwed up
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@TalkTV keeps doing a trick where they have one XR or compassion In World Farming (AKA Stop all Animal farming) and they other guest doesn’t oppose thm, they support them.
Now it’s Philip Lymbery @philip_ciwf vs Peter Egan (actor against animal farming )
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Mikehig – thanks for your above comment, made me chuckle & think “fruitcakes” for some reason –
“However there will still be protests by the usual bunch of “bananas” – Block Anything New Anywhere Near Anything”
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Polls are BS, but GBnews got 5000 votes against green
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Mark
Re geothermal energy
You asked three questions:
1. Is this much/any different from fracking?
No usually two wells are used and a connection between them is established by the same mechanism as is used in a fracked well.
2. To what extent is geology a factor? Does it make sense to prioritise disadvantaged areas, or does geology mean that geologically appropriate areas should be selected?
Geology is definitely a factor. Heat is extracted from rocks in the well used to transmit water downwards and in the newly formed fractures between the two wells. Rocks capable of easily transmitting heat are required. Rocks composed of clays are to be avoided. So far rocks that are suitable are granites.
3. Is this reliable and capable of being cheap? If so, it looks like a much better option than solar and wind power, especially as it won’t intrude on the landscape and wildlife.
I don’t know but I doubt it will be cheap. Also remember this is not a renewable heat resource. From day one the subsurface looses heat until it becomes uneconomic. Rates of heat flow into the region being drained of its heat will be substantially lower, so the heat reservoir cools. You also will need additional energy to boil water
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Alan,
Thank you.
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Mark, Alan: there are a few other aspects to consider, aiui from a bit of reading, web posts, etc.
There can be challenges with the circulating water as it is prone to flushing minerals from the source rocks which can cause scaling and the like. In some cases radionuclides can be present, as may be the case at the scheme close to the Eden project.
The heat source may be renewable, or at least not likely to diminish, if it is driven by volcanic-type action, as in Iceland. I am not sure whether that may also be the case where radioactive decay is involved.
Seismicity can be a problem. A geothermal project near Bern in Switzerland was abandoned when it caused tremors greater than 4 on whatever the scale is these days.
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MikeHig, you are of course correct in that there are many other factors affecting geothermal energy but I only answered Mark’s questions. Also in the absence of any more recent volcanism in the British Isles than about 40 million years ago, I thought it possible to conclude that all British geothermal sites will not be renewable.
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Alan K: thanks for the clarification.
Out of curiosity I had a look at the website for the Eden geothermal project which threw up a few interesting points.
They are using a single, very deep bore with a special heat exchanger at the bottom linked to the surface by a closed-circuit water system. I was expecting two holes with water being pumped through fractures between them. Then I read:
“The project is determining the budget of heat-producing elements (U, Th, K), their mineralogical hosts and evidence for high-temperature alteration, and leaching of these elements. Radiogenic heat production is being compared with measured heat flow data (downhole logs) and discrepancies are being evaluated in terms of the potential role(s) of upper crustal convective fluid flow and/or mid/lower crustal and mantle heat contributions.” That may explain the design approach, keeping the circulating water separate from the “hot” rocks.
Interestingly they had a lot of microseismic events and two of magnitude 1.5 and 1.7. If it had been a gas well we can all imagine the fuss….
Here’s the website if anyone’s interested: https://www.edengeothermal.com/
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https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-olaf-scholz-europe-eurozone-slipped-into-recession-and-everyone-should-be-worried/
snippet from above post –
“Sense of reality
“The optimism at the start of the year seems to have given way to more of a sense of reality,” ING Bank economist Carsten Brzeski said, pointing to declining purchasing power, thinned-out industrial order books, as well as expected drags of tighter monetary and weaker U.S. growth. “On top of these cyclical factors, the ongoing war in Ukraine, demographic change and the current energy transition will structurally weigh on the German economy in the coming years.”
and found this old post from Aug 31, 2022 –
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2022/08/31/germanys-energy-crisis-dispels-several-myths/?sh=6bfd8bd725e9
snippet – Replacing Germany’s remaining nuclear power with renewables is technically achievable, given that in 2021, German nuclear power was only as large as 25% of renewable energy supply. However, it took more than 5 years to add that much renewable energy and it required a significant reliance on, ta-da!, backup power plants fueled by natural gas. Which brings us back to your friendly neighborhood gas supplier, Vladmir Putin!”
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“The hydrogen fuel is being produced and supplied by green hydrogen developer Protium, from its recently commissioned installation at the University of South Wales Hydrogen Centre in the Baglan Energy Park. ”
So is the leccy coming from the grid and crazy accounting used to say it’s green ?
Their pages don’t mention anything directly about them owning a solar farm or wind onsite
If they did they would mention surely
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The anti-hydrogen activists tweet to me and the Swansea Councillor asks her to testify that the hydrogen is 100% from renewable electricity
… She’s declined to reply
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An art historian who flits between his homes in London and Suffolk and whose latest book was the product of four years of globetrotting ‘from Japan to Mexico, Cairo to Madrid. China to Moscow, writing the book as he went’ – well, he has now joined Just Stop Oil, obvz, and is blocking traffic in London.
https://juststopoil.org/2023/06/07/just-stop-oil-supporters-arrested-for-demanding-uk-government-take-basic-steps-to-protect-the-public/
Dr John-Paul Stonard:
(You’ve got at least two houses, mate, so you’ll be alright.)
Ten years ago, when Stonard was still just a Mr, he wrote this in a letter to The Times:
So unsanctioned street art is wrong but unsanctioned street blocking is OK.
I see.
No, I don’t. I’ll need to buy a house in Suffolk and spend four years travelling the world pontificating about crumbling ruins before I can understand the logic behind that.
Laterz…
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Correction: Stonard’s 2013 letter was to The Financial Times, not The Times.
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Rain forecast sudden change
This morning it’s gone from local rain starting on Sunday and then most days
to zero rain next week
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Sadly, the Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again:
“No Mow May blamed for rise in hedgehog injuries”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-65854562
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There is a very easy solution to this, which is to cut the grass over two days, the first with a high blade. No Mow May is a stupid idea; there should be no mowing until August!
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“The case for bullying hippies
Green Party ideas are not just wrong but dangerous”
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-case-for-bullying-hippies/
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Mark,
“The Green Party of England and Wales is a doomsday cult that advocates for turning the UK into a third world country.”
It’s much, much worse than that. The Green Party doesn’t have a hope in hell of gaining power. However, the Conservative Party, the Labour Party, and the LibDems are all fully paid up members of the doomsday cult. Virtually all 650 MPs elected to Parliament are members of the ‘climate crisis’ doomsday cult. All our public institutions are captured by the delusion as well. We can’t vote our way out of this madness. We are way past the point of irreversible harms to our economy, environment and way of life. They are ‘baked in’, to coin a term favoured by the climate alarmists. ‘Managed decline’ looks more like ‘controlled demolition’ – and the explosives set in the foundations have already been detonated.
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Panorama : It’s either a hate-a-thon or a love-in advert
Tonight It’s electric cars
Guess which one it is ?
“The Electric Vehicle revolution”
.. no loaded words there …/sarc
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Paul Homewood has this story:
The irony is stunning. Here’s the Guardian’s take on it:
“UK heatwave prompts National Grid to fire up coal plant to meet aircon demand
National Grid asks for two units at Ratcliffe-on-Soar plant to be brought into action after temperature tops 30C”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/12/uk-heatwave-prompts-order-to-fire-up-coal-plant-to-meet-aircon-demand
As I type, according to the iamkate website, the National Grid is seeing renewables supply just 19.1% of our electricity (her definition accords with mine, and excludes the 2.4% biomass that is sometimes described as renewable energy). In other words, renewables, at a pretty optimum time of the year, are supplying only slightly more than we are having to import (17%). And yes, we are using coal. It’s currently supplying 2.2% of our electricity.
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London’s ULEZ zone is going well….
“London high pollution alert triggered for Tuesday”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckvzldzegnyo
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It took me a 9 tweet thread to show the Cheltenham SCIENCE festival
is really a Guardianland Agenda Pushing Festival
for Green Protest and LGBTQA+ (The Alphabet People) activism
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Can a photograph constitute misinformation or disinformation?
“River in ‘wettest place in England’ in Lake District almost completely dry
Experts are warning of disastrous conditions for wildlife at upper River Derwent in Borrowdale
“https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/14/wettest-place-in-england-lake-district-almost-completely-dry-river-derwent-borrowdale
I’m not denying that it’s been very dry for quite a while, and that rivers are low, even here in Cumbria. And I can’t say with certainty that the River Derwent in Borrowdale hasn’t dried up, though the photos later in the article suggest that it hasn’t. The photo leading the article appears to show a completely dry river bed at Grange in Borrowdale. The point, however, is that the bridge at Grange has two arches, and my money is on the river flowing (albeit slowly and at a low level) under the other arch, which has been conveniently omitted from the photograph. In fact, if you look very carefully, there does appear to be water flowing beyond the stones and pebbles, at the far side (it will have flowed under the second arch).
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I can’t speak for the upper River Derwent, but with 3 or 4 weeks without rain and strong sunshine, of course it’s going to be pretty sluggish or even ‘dry’, the water having disappeared below the surface. But I can speak for the lower River Derwent and although it’s quite low, it is still very much a healthy, quite fast flowing river and in parts is still at least 15 feet deep. Ask my dogs. They’ve been happily swimming in it in this glorious summer weather! A few days rain and it will start to rise again.
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The BBC is at it with its bee eater climate change propaganda again:
“Bee-eaters make historic return to breeding site in Norfolk”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-65910074
There’s just one problem with that. Bee eaters have been regular visitors to our shores for the best part of a quarter of millennium, according to written records. As I have opined here and at Paul Homewood’s place in the past, I saw one here in Cumbria some 30 years or so ago, in the low hills above Kendal.
It’s worth re-visiting Paul’s two articles de-bunking this relentless propaganda from the RSPB and the BBC:
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It’s confirmed: Musk’s ‘free speech Twitter’ is actively censoring climate change sceptics. Willis has been suspended for tweeting facts. I am certain that this was the real reason why my first account was suspended and why they refuse to reinstate my second account, unjustifiably suspended also. The censorship industrial complex is coming for climate science deniers and probably Net Zero deniers too.
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Jaime; from his post, it looks as if Willis’ suspension was not for posting climate facts but for a satirical comment he made which was deemed to be inciting violence.
Someone asked what should be done about the FBI and he replied that it should be burnt down and the ground salted. Obviously it was not a serious comment: we might say something similar about parliament, for example, with references to Guy Fawkes.
Clearly the Twitter moderators/bots lack a sense of humour. Of course he may well be a marked man because of his climate views so this quip was all the excuse they needed.
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Not so neutral language from the supposedly objective and balanced BBC:
“Climate change: UN to unmask fossil fuel lobbyists at climate talks”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65917660
Unmask, indeed! It all seems a bit OTT, especially given that the venue selected by the BBC for COP28 is, as the BBC’s report says, “one of the world’s top oil producers.”
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> Jaime; from his post, it looks as if Willis’ suspension was not for posting climate facts but for a satirical comment he made which was deemed to be inciting violence.
But not so surprisingly, Willis just asks the question of whether it’s all REALLY explainable by the vast climate change conspiracy.
Which of course is inextricably linked to the vast censorship industrial complex conspiracy.
But of course, mentioning conspiracy theories triggers snowflakes so I won’t mention conspiracy theories.
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“Owners of the most polluting cars to pay double for parking across England
Lambeth council in London is latest to introduce emissions-based fees, with similar charges expected to be widely introduced”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/18/owners-of-most-polluting-cars-to-pay-double-for-parking-england
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Scotty Kilmer goes off on electric cars and the cybertruck:
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“Climate Crisis Shock: No Change in Average U.K. Temperatures for More Than Two Decades”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/20/climate-crisis-shock-no-change-in-average-u-k-temperatures-for-more-than-two-decades/
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It was a glorious summer wasn’t it? A bit hot at the end, necessitating flashing amber warnings from the UK Health Security Agency and then a direction from the unofficial UK ‘Energy Security Agency’ to power up the last remaining coal-fired power stations because too many people were using air conditioning and it was too hot for solar panels! Now we’re back to the bog standard British summer for the rest of June and into July. Never mind, I’m sure some airport will come up with the goods to convince us that we’re all going to die horribly from heat exhaustion unless we fit a smart meter.
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“Scotland misses greenhouse gas emissions target”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65960717
Reality never seems to bite:
Speaking of reality, comments below the line aren’t going well for the BBC or for the Scottish government. This is the top comment:
I agree with that, save for the use of the word “pollution” in connection with GHGs. Whatever problems they might or might not cause, I struggle to define something essential to life (CO2) as pollution, even if the EPA in the USA does so.
As for Northern Ireland, well perhaps it’s due to starting to come out of the worst of lockdown, but it’s not going well there either:
“NI Greenhouse gas emissions increased by 5% in 2021, report finds”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-65964230
Thereby demonstrating a failure to understand that nothing Northern Ireland does can make any measurable difference to climate change.
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Mark – thanks for the BBC Scotland link with comments.
as usual, I tried to “like” it, but to no avail 😦
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Next Monday U3A lecture
Join us for another talk from Ian Hawker, leader of East Suffolk u3a’s Climate Change group.
UK average temperatures are predicted to rise by 1.6-2.0C by 2050 and 2.6C – 2.9C by 2100 compared with pre-industrial levels.
This rise will impact food & water supply, sea levels, weather, infestation & disease and mass immigration from abroad. What adaptation actions should the UK governments take now and in the future?
Based on Feedback, this talk will be 60 minutes, with 30 minutes for questions.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/adapting-to-climate-change-tickets-638618724797
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2C more in 26.5 years, ha ha
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Try via this .. https://wordpress.com/read/conversations
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He tweeted “2) Burn the FBI building to the ground.
3) Salt the earth.”
My guess is someone reported that as incitement to violence
You really can’t go around giving people the opportunity to false report you
Cos when you do get banned all your historic tweets disappear
Maybe switch to a new account every 18 months
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Stew – thanks for the link 🙂
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stewgreen,
At least he’s talking about adaptation, not mitigation, which is a start, even if the metaphorical plague of locusts forecast for the UK does seem to OTT.
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There seem to have been quite a few bus fires lately. Take this one reported by the BBC:
“Passengers evacuated as bus destroyed by fire in Dundee”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-65916688
I don’t know what type of bus it was, and I concede that I may be adding 2 + 2 and making 5, but I can’t help wondering if it was electric, especially in view of this other BBC report from 5 years ago:
“Stagecoach launches £2.1m Dundee and Angus bus fleet
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39655709
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Just Stop Oil asks this question: ”When the climate crisis means that we will have to fight for loaves of bread, who do you think will suffer first? ‘
Answer: LGBTQ+ers, obvz.
https://juststopoil.org/2023/06/20/an-open-letter-to-the-british-lgbt-awards/
Murder, genocide, ‘billionaires who are forcing us to choose between resistance or death’, ‘business model includes knowingly killing LGBTQ+ people’, bla bla bla.
Alas, such blablablalarmism does actually work. BLGTBA quickly cancelled sponsorships by the well-known genocidalists BP and Shell (though it kept those from the infamous water-polluter Macquarie and the infamous planning bully Tesco) and will be interrogating its key core strategizing toolkits going forwards:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230622170259/https://britishlgbtawards.com/
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“Loss of fossil fuel assets would not impoverish general public, study finds
Research allays fears that rapid scaling back of production would hit people’s savings and pensions hard”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/22/fossil-fuel-assets-loss-study
Extraordinary conclusions:
No bias in its findings:
It goes on:
No mention of pension funds and the like who are heavily dependent on dividend income – and in most developed countries, many of the poorest in society are dependent on their pension. No mention of the fact that the richest 10% in society pay most of the tax that funds the governments who can supposedly “easily compensate” the poorer losers. Fantasy economics, to my mind. The Guardian doesn’t actually provide a link to the article, only to the website that published it, but I haven’t been able to find it, after (an admittedly cursory) search.
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Mark – think I found the article – https://www.cell.com/joule/fulltext/S2542-4351(23)00220-9
titled – “Potential pension fund losses should not deter high-income countries from bold climate action”
long read, and not sure I can be bothered, but a snippet –
“Second, less affluent groups, particularly in the United States and United Kingdom, could be tipped (deeper) into net negative wealth, increasing risks of personal bankruptcy, and suffer pay-out reductions from defined contribution pension schemes. Because adults are unequally exposed, e.g., 9% of British pension funds have completely divested from fossil fuels,12 the losses for those who do sustain them exceed the averages in Figure 2. In continental European countries, current high inflation rates arguably pose a bigger threat to the value of financial assets. Still, those groups who are most exposed to stranded assets and have little capital could experience economic hardship.”
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This is what happens when I check data
On the day the guy was shouting drought in Collingford reservoir, the rain gauge registered huge amount
It’s not his fault the water company suppresses the reservoir level data for days
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That’s a useful site You click rainfall on the left side
and then click the location
https://www.gaugemap.co.uk/#!Map/Summary/8433/3776
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I go down rabbit-holes waste time
Here is an old thread with activists and TV folk discussing how they can hype climate more
What intrigues me is that Blau opened the thread with a tweet which he then deleted
Well you on’t delete tweets unless there is something wrong with them
My main method of recovering deleted tweets didn’t work here
… https://twitter.com/dirstevesmith/status/1611716795383021568
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R4Today had a guest on who warned about Windarms
So Desmog said out to smear her with “has links to fossil fuel interests”
Their article further down makes it clear she actually “has links to RENEWABLE interests” too
https://www.desmog.com/2023/06/22/climate-sceptic-goes-unchallenged-on-bbcs-today-programme/
Nuttily Bennett tweeted the smear piece
BTW Montford was on GB news around 8:30pm and was good about wind costs
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Stewgreen,
Here’s Andrew Montford on GB News re wind costs:
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Monbiot is a crazy guy who pushes a whole series of conspiracy theories.
I raise a number of issues about the BBC bringing on to say that anyone opposes him is a “far right conspiracy theorist”
https://biasedbbc.tv/blog/2023/06/25/start-the-week-26-june-2023/#comment-1241957
In addition I now not a new Monbiot article after he recorded the item is tagged
Climate crisis, Opinion, The far right, Extreme weather, Refugees, comment
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They’re really hyping the ’40C temperatures’ thing again and guess what, Coningsby is once again in the frame for giving us ‘the hottest day of the year so far’. This is not science or even weather forecasting, it is a psyop.
“It comes after the UK experienced the joint hottest day of the year so far, recorded at 32.2C in Coningsby, Lincolnshire, on Sunday. The Met Office has also warned that Brits could expect sweltering temperatures of up to 40C next month and as many as five more heatwaves this summer.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12237223/From-sizzle-drizzle-Brits-battered-rain-Met-Office-predicts-heatwave-July.html
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Stew – thanks for the Monbiot article link
“round the cycle turns. As millions are driven from their homes by climate disasters, the extreme right exploits their misery to extend its reach. As the extreme right gains power, climate programmes are shut down, heating accelerates and more people are driven from their homes. If we don’t break this cycle soon, it will become the dominant story of our times.”
He gets this from this peer reviewed paper –
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-023-01132-6
snippet from the Abstract – “These results highlight the need for more decisive policy action to limit the human costs and inequities of climate change.”
the paper is a joke, but only read a few pages before giving up.
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only thing I would add to above comment – “the human climate niche” seems a new scare term, with no mention of “ice age”.
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Who is this Alarmist guy who just followed me on Twitter ?
Is he a real person ?
cos last week he retweeted a Climate Poll which has just 34 votes
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Lord Deben is tweeted by his mates
but there are very few likes
Sceptical tweets get more traction
This is the official announcement tweet got just 30 likes
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How long before Staffordshire earthquake is claimed to be a forerunner of climate catastrophe?
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Here’s an abridged extract from Mike Hulme’s new book, Climate Change Isn’t Everything:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12230739/Brilliant-new-book-Cambridge-professor-warns-Stop-blaming-climate-change.html
As it happens, Jem Bendell also has a new book out (Breaking Together) in which he too takes a pop at eco-authoritarianism. I think this is a new target for Bendell. He has long predicted that the societal collapse that will inevitably be triggered by climate change will probably lead to nationalist, xenophobic authoritarianism but in his recent writings he has criticised the authoritarianism of eco-activists who are trying to limit climate change and the consequent inevitable societal collapse.
An exchange between Bendell and a green campaigner whom he’d said was authoritarian (and perhaps even an ecofascist, but I can’t refind that) can be downloaded from here:
https://www.greenhousethinktank.org/democratic-or-authoritarian-action/
Doomer vs. Doomer.
(Does anyone know what they mean by ‘gas’?)
Incidentally, it seems that Bendell is retiring from academia and possibly from activism too. He’s going to move back to Bali to concentrate on gardening and song-writing as the doom closes in.
(Incidentally Part Deux: My money’s on Bill McGuire, Alan. If he knows where Staffordshire is. Otherwise it’s Veli Albert Kallio.)
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“London Pride: Seven arrests as Just Stop Oil protest delays parade”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66074939
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I listened briefly, while driving in the car late this afternoon, to an interview on Radio 4 with a JSO spokesperson. When asked what gave them the right to dictate who organisations can accept funding from, she declared that it was a very good question, and proceeded not to answer it, instead launching into the usual pre-prepared spiel about a climate emergency etc. I persevered for a couple of minutes, then switched it off, as I couldn’t take any more of her uninterrupted monologue full of unchallenged misinformation.
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Mark, the JSO spokesperson who sounded like a woman was in fact a man, James Skeet.
But you’re not the only one guilty of misgendering. (Missexing?) I thought the presenter was a man, so was a bit surprised when Skeet called him Caroline. But that’s who it was: Caroline Wyatt, a cis woman.
R4 PM recording here:
Skeet deserves some credit for not ranting about genocide and calling his opponents liars and murderers, as he did in several earlier interviews. Here he is shouting and jabbing his finger at Ed Balls when Balls challenged him to define ‘genocide’:
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Vinny, thank for putting me right. My sincere apologies to James Skeet for mis-gendering him (but only for that; I still think he talked complete tosh).
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Now Countryfile is trailing their item about Green energy
shots show a huge drilling rig .. for drilling heatpumps or geothermal (that’s done by fracking process.. but they won’t mention that)
Oh the heatpump company is busy tweeting about the free PR
… https://twitter.com/KensaContracts/status/1675580157338304517
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Many tweets are complaing about the obvious Climate Change propaganda and product placement
but green activist tweets
@MarkBinnersley
Great to see a peak time item on heat pumps in the media without the grubby climate delayers in the gas boiler industry wading in with misinformation about electrification of heating.
Well done #Countryfile.
counterview thread
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The heatpump company highlighted the BBC free PR
in 2 tweets during the show and 2 before
In March they bragged they were on BBC & ITV
In Feb bragged they were on the BBC website
Nov 25, 2022
Our Managing Director, David Broom chatted to @Skentelbery earlier today on @BBCCornwall
Nov 25, 2022 Kensa’s solution for the decarbonisation of heat: networked ground source heat pumps, was discussed by @RHarrabin on @BBCRadio4 earlier today.
Oct 27, 2021
Regarding insulation, our Managing Director, James Standley actually spoke about insulation on BBC Radio Cornwall last week.
Jul 13, 2021
Our very own Iain Carr starred on BBC News North West last night! He talked about how we’re using natural heat from the ground to deliver #LowCarbon heating to 183 flats in Blackburn
Nov 19, 2020
“The future is heat pumps,” said Kensa’s Stuart Gadsden on BBC News last night.
Did you tune in?
Nov 18, 2020
Tonight on @BBCNews 📺 Watch out for Kensa’s own Stuart Gadsden, who will be at the site of @ESOxford!
They did about 10 promo tweets about that item
Aug 30, 2019
Catch the full Kensa #HeatPumps story & interview with @RichardCochrane of @UniofExeter on @BBCSpotlight
The heatpump company makes big use of BBC climate doom stories, and BBC GreenDream stories
One firm tweeted they use a PR agency to get onto BBC
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Sunday BBC local news show
Most items are filmed like adverts with background music etc.
This was the environment correspondent promoting a local greenhouse plant gowing biz Premier Plants who are going to use geothermal to heat their greenhouses.
So they want warmer temperatures to grow their plants
and want to do not cause Global Warming.
That’s like the Eden Project
Isn’t there some irony there
thst they claim the world is getting hot hot hot
yet the UK is too cold for the plants they want to grow ?
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OK we got something
People pointed out that Justin Rowlatt did his “Hottest Evah June, all the fish are dying” report wearing a thick sweater by the canal (Knowles Lock system near Solihull )
and when I check for a picture
I find that he has a PR woman working with him
Bio : “Feet on the ground,head in the stars with BBC Climate & Science.Promoting & empowering all .. ”
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A positive straw in the wind……investment in offshore exploration for oil and gas is ramping up. It seems the oil cos have decided to get back to what they do best:
https://gcaptain.com/oil-giants-drill-deep-as-profits-trump-climate-concerns/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-5c6d479036-170410014&mc_cid=5c6d479036&mc_eid=9275323244
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Jit, 01 Jul:
“LGBTQ+ people are “suffering first” in the “accelerating social breakdown” caused by climate change, they added.”
Translation: In a very competitive field, LGBTQ+ people are determined to be the first ‘oppressed minority’ to claim victim status in an accelerating social breakdown allegedly caused by ‘climate breakdown’.
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I found this quote on a philosophical-type substack which I thought was could be applied to much of the discussions on CliScep:
The substack in question is this one:
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/will-the-west-eat-itself
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Bill, the political system itself is quite mad but the people operating within that system are still applying rational, left brain thinking within that system, hence they are not violating the rules of logic and rationality from their own perspective; also they are still motivated primarily by what the author describes as an ‘extractive mindset’. But that extractive mindset has not emerged spontaneously, opportunistically, it has evolved over many years, hence the understandable perception of a ‘master plan’. Are those seeking to interpret the behaviour of western leaders also guilty of applying rational, left brain thinking? Yes, very probably, but they do so from outside the insane system, therefore come to very different conclusions.
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In the final minutes of the Moral Maze philosopher and theologian
and XR (Just Slag Oil) supporter Carmody Grey said
“I am talking of obviously about the Climate Emergency (PR word)
where a *small number of companies* have stitched up the entire private sector
so that green choices are in reality not available to most consumers to their own benefit.”
That’s a huge conspiracy theory, with no evidence
Lefties can get away with saying bunk on the BBC
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There was not much Twitter discussion about the prog
just a few left extremists hurling bile at a guy from the Adam Smith Institute
I saw a few lefties disinform
by using a graph https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9644789/UK-ranked-Europe-bathing-water-quality.html
The fact was it the research was a farce
It was a Covid year
And the reason why the UK seemed to have a low number of its river swims marked as high quality
is that 80% were not sampled, so were given zero
The text says of 640 monitored bathing sites, 457 were not sampled that year
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XR don’t like to have a fair debate that includes the people that PAY for green policies
instead XR just slag oil JSO
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“Just Stop Oil Donor Received £110 Million in Green Subsidies from Taxpayer”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/07/08/just-stop-oil-donor-received-110-million-in-green-subsidies-from-taxpayer/
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Sander van der Linden is on GBnews plugging his book Foolproof how to spot misinformation
The presenter seems unaware that Linden is one of the bad guys along with his mate Lew
using PR tricks to close down debate opponents instead of addressing their actual arguments.
GBnews just put their Linden video up
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interesting thread about Linden working with BBC Disinformation unit
seems like NudgeUnit stuff
ie anti-critical thinking
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Jim Dale often appears on GBnews billed as “senior meteorologist”
actually that’s only to differentiate him from the couple of interns that help him in his one man band company BRITISH WEATHER SVS @BritWeatherSvs
Either his children write his tweets
or he is childlike
#1 He uses terms like “97% of climate experts say” and “climate deniers”
#2 Tweets the wacky conspiracy theory that most skeptics are funded by Big Oil
Replying to @HavelockRoadBtn @LoisPerry26 and 3 others
The massive & ongoing climate induced events of late are a solid line in the baking sand.
It won’t be too long before *climate deniers* are totally banned from mainstream media
for being the fossil fuelled funded conspiracy theorists that they are.
It is coming! 👀
Folks PAY for green policies ,so they should have a SAY
not be banned
#3 Uses a wacky graph made by various splicings , including splicing IPCC extreme future forecasts
.. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0nMWclXwAANK6T?format=jpg&name=orig
Maybe someone some could take a look at his killer graph
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It seems that Andy West’s book has now been published.
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ITV local news PR prog
“Here we are in Matlock where a pub flooded in a flash storm
that’s the fifth flood in 4 years”
Global Warming was no blamed
Instead the Flood Warden blamed new housing in the hills above.
The town centre is valley.
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In one of the next item Nick Smith is with NFU leader Minetter Batters and other climate activists shouting “drought”
lot of hyperbole in this nationally syndicated item.
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Scotland is flattening one side of a lot of roundabouts
… https://youtu.be/d30-LKrUr0A
Spoiler : to get giant wind turbine
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“The firms will invest up to €7bn ($7.7bn; £6bn) to develop low-emission petrol, diesel and hybrid engines”
BBC story about French and Chinese putting project HQ in UK
note it’s not called an electric
At first it seems a conflict with the UK 2030 petrol car ban
It does make sense to think about better diesel engines for trucks , rather than making them electric
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“Met Office Doubles Recent U.K. Warming Trend in Just 13 Months, Abolishing 15-Year Flatlining Trend”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/07/12/met-office-doubles-recent-u-k-warming-trend-in-just-13-months-abolishing-15-year-flatlining-trend/
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https://savebritain.org/deadly-heatwave-hits-europe-as-tourists-warned-of-record-breaking-48c-highs/
partial quote – “However, the Met Office has stated that the UK would be spared the high temperatures. It is expected the extreme hot weather will last for two weeks.
Met Office spokesperson Grahame Madge said: ‘The heatwave conditions which are affecting parts of south west Europe and north west Africa are expected to extend eastward.
‘Much higher than average temperatures are also likely at times further north across Europe, but these will be shorter lived and less impactful.
‘Communities in the affected regions should expect health impacts and the potential for wildfires.’”
cancel your hols now, the Jet Stream has went wonky, again!!!
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“‘Definitely unprecedented’: Vermont wildlife also affected by historic flooding
Fish, beavers and skunks all suffered from the deluge this week. But good news: populations are healthy and they will rebound”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/13/vermont-wildlife-historic-flooding
The Guardian doesn’t “do” history, then? Try 1927 for size:
““The Troubled Roar of the Waters”: Vermont in Flood and Recovery, 1927–1931. By Deborah Pickman Clifford and Nicholas R. Clifford.”
https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/95/1/255/780770
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The Guardian and the BBC are plugging every extreme weather event – particularly floods and heatwaves – as ‘climate breakdown’. The propaganda and misinformation is relentless.
“Health alerts issued as blistering heat scorches southern Europe
Tourists collapse in Greece and Italy and worker killed near Milan amid heatwave worsened by carbon pollution”
They did an instant attribution! They’ve got the ‘science’ all worked out too:
“Warm air, which holds more moisture than cold air, can lead to hot and dry conditions in some areas, and heavy rains and flash floods in others.”
Take that deniers!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/14/health-alerts-blistering-heat-scorches-southern-europe
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A very interesting read, with some choice quotes:
“The deindustrialization of Germany:
If Europe’s economic motor stalls, the Continent’s already polarized political landscape will shudder.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/rust-belt-on-the-rhine-the-deindustrialization-of-germany/
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I’ll leave you to decide who has the right of it, George Monbiot or Paul Homewood:
“With our food systems on the verge of collapse, it’s the plutocrats v life on Earth
George Monbiot”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown
“UN report on growing world hunger criticised for climate hype”
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1000 lorries filled green paint have arrived in Scunthorpe
to make Starmer’s green steel
As usual the taxpayer will pay for the extra costs of “green steel”
As I scan Twitter for info I am confronted by hundreds of spiteful hatey tweets from antifa to the people of Scunthorpe
Why is that ? Cos a few top antifa accounts took video of 60 Stop The Boat demonstrators in Scarborough and falsely labelled it as “Fascists in Scunthorpe”
In 1650 iron was made by cutting down the forests of England
2028 Steel is going to be made by chopping down the forests of America to fuel Drax Power station to make the electricity to power the furnaces in Scunthorpe
cos wind/solar are too flip floppy
Is that progress ?
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York Green Party transport spokesman @AndyDAgorne tweeted
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The BBC today offering live and seemingly hastily-written coverage of hot weather.
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ITV local newsPR
“Despite the rain a hosepipe ban could be imminent”
.. Are these media people on drugs ??
Ah they have “drought porn” to push as part of their Climate CAMPAIGNING
syndicated through ITV regions
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I have wondered about an almost complete absence recently of any mention of El Niño as a contributor/cause of recent heatwaves. No longer. Channel 4 News had a climate expert on who attributed the heatwaves to climate change (nothing new there then) but then said that the weather had been made even hotter by the imposition of El Niño. No thought whatsoever that the heat might primarily be the result of El Niño, perhaps increased slightly by climate changes. First things first Kendall!!
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Why does GBnews keep inviting Jim Dale on ?
… Ans : cos they want to Carry On Climate Clowning
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Just Stop Oil activist who was carried off the pitch at Lord’s by Jonny Bairstow is punched and kicked to the floor by boyfriend of pregnant woman as eco-mob are accused of causing their car to crash
I wonder if he is breaking bail conditions ?
Accented guy apparently named Daniel Knorr, of “Oxford”, wearing a french kite festival T-shirt with EU flag logo
Mail says “grew up in £5.2m house in upmarket north London suburb (and his banker father invests in climate change ‘opportunities’)
His father is the boss of a private equity company with a $5.3billion investment fund. It invests in climate change ‘opportunities’ and ‘supporting portfolio companies to reduce their carbon emissions’.
Knorr’s parents arrived at their villa-style property in a new hybrid BMW today. They then threatened to call the police on reporters who asked them about the arrest of their son 24 hours earlier.
Daniel Knorr was charged with aggravated trespass this afternoon along with co-conspirators Judit Murray, 69, and Jacob Bourne, 26, after the Lord’s pitch invasion. They have been bailed and will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on July 31.”
So I I wonder if he is breaking bail conditions ?
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Stew, IANAL but, yes, I’d think so.
Incidentally, reporting restrictions have been applied to the latest Gail Bradbrook trial. This one was about vandalism at a government ministry in October 2019. Yesterday, Isleworth Crown Court discharged the jury (am I allowed to say that?) and a new trial has been scheduled for 30th October.*
Reporting restrictions are sometimes applied when juries have been discharged because of jury-tampering fears.
In this case? Bradbrook perhaps refused to shut up about you-know-what.
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*That’ll be more than four years after the druggie narcissist broke a window to save us from ourselves. Why do such trials take so long? Answer: activist lawyers like the kimono-clad fox-beater.
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Crowd pleaser Dale Vince is getting a lot of stick
“Forest Green are famously the first club ever to appoint their academy manager as interim first team manager whilst they find their permanent replacement, ”
so that was a woman manager so he got lots of PR for that
She’s been there all the month of the off season
She got a couple of games
and now he’s found a permanent manager A MAN
“Dave Horseman has left @SouthamptonFC to become manager of Forest Green Rovers.”
Now people are cruelly saying Vince just appointing the female was a publicity stunt
Not so fast She was always interim ..so she’s not being ditched
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Geoff Buys Cars is the main anti EV youtube channel
He already knew about the huge Tata subsidy
“Indian company takes a load of money from UK gov
who in return get good PR
Tata blackmailed the gov for £600m or they would build the factory in Spain
It’s Delorean again”
.. This is the dark Ages ”
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A stunningly partial story from the BBC: “The Australian climate protesters cast as extremists”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-66185377
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Jit,
I tried hard, while reading that piece, to give the BBC the benefit of the doubt. By the end, however, it was impossible. It was like reading an article in the Guardian. I was left in no doubt by the end where the author’s sympathies lie and who the BBC regards as the real villains.
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Farage show last night had Gareth Stace on from UK Steel lobby group
Unfortunately he spouted about Green Steel and weak Farage failed to challenge him
No one mentioned the talk on Twitter
Stace has been on the sow before
Strangely David Lammy previously praised him for saying this
UK Steel director Gareth Stace: “Let us be clear, there are no benefits to be had from Brexit for the steel industry.
This merely an exercise in damage limitation with the various different shades of Brexit … representing various degrees of harm.”
Stace appears to live in London and commutes by electric scooter
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“Climate change lures rare bird to Kent marshland”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5138mvyv51o
Maybe, maybe not…
“THE BREEDING OF BLACK-WINGED STILTS IN NOTTINGHAMSHIRE IN 1945”
Click to access V38_N17_P322_328_A079.pdf
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Impartial BBC headline
“The Australian climate protesters cast as extremists”
It’s about West Australia
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Some new and/or updated articles from Ed Hoskins:
and
Well worth a read.
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Mark – only read the first part & already we get this –
“United States of America: population ~330m, (4.2%)- ~14.4% of global CO2 emissions.
President Biden has negated Trump’s climate initiatives, including the USA re-joining support for the Paris Climate accord. The Trump presidency had rejoiced in establishing USA energy independence for the first time in several decades. The USA, simply by exploiting shale gas as opposed to Coal for an increasing share of its electricity generation, has already reduced its annual CO2 emissions by some by ~1,000,000,000 tonnes. USA CO2 emissions were reduced by one third, since 2005. That market driven initiative has already had a greater CO2 emission reduction effect than both the entire Kyoto protocol and the Paris Climate Accord.”
love how they say “The Trump presidency had rejoiced”, does that mean President Biden will put an an end to any joy?
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Mark – from your BP? link above – “in 2023 the European peoples will come to understand the substantial changes to their lifestyles, personal economies and freedoms that are demanded by their governments’ in pursuing the Net Zero / Green agenda”
but evil big oil would say that.
ps – as you say, well worth a read & many comments I could make.
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last comment from that link –
“As long ago as 2010 Professor Richard Muller made the dilemma for all those who hope to control global warming by reducing the CO2 emissions of Western Nations, very clear. In essence he said:
the Developing World is not joining-in with CO2 emission reductions nor should it have any intention of doing so. The failure of worldwide action negates the unilateral action of any / all individual Western Nations and the West will become more marginal to the CO2 emissions problem and increasingly irrelevant”.
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A media company put out video of the burntout Hull wind Turbine finally being demolished , yet all the wind power loving local news progs have not mentioned it.
.. https://twitter.com/baxtermedia/status/1678337213669470208
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5pm Ward is on the Trisha show .. she’s weak
10:15am Donnachadh was on Tice who gave him a tough time
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The awful Brian Cox prog was on yesterday ( Infinite Monkey Cage)
topic was sharks
then suddenly the expert released a strange fact
that nature is NOT in balance
That cos orcas are bastards they can moves into an area where sharks have lived in for hundreds of years and completely wipe them out
“We found deep down a new graveyard of intact sharks except the orcas had ripped out the livers out of all of them”
I wonder about other “natural” huge changes say tree diseases , they could have huge impacts too.
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Leading UK climate change thought-leader Roger Hallam has had a cracking week on Twitter.
Lots of his usual thought-leadership tropes about genocide, gas chambers, Nuremburg (sic) etc, but they were spiced up with:
* a suggestion that Grants Shapps deserves a jolly good hanging (last week it was Keir Starmer);
* an attack on Michael Mann, whom Hallam said was a privileged and cowardly fake (‘supposed’) thought leader who had ‘refused to entered [sic] into resistance to the point of jail’ because the ‘body parts were[n’t] on your campus lawn’ and because Mann was ‘fixated on the self serving delusion that information creates change'[1];
* ‘repressed f*ckery’ from The Guardian;
* f*cked b*llocks s*cking murderers’ d*cks (?);
* and how the rich can only be brought down by ‘glorious prophetic leaders’.[2]
Hallam has ended his glorious week with this tweet:
That’s at the end of a thread about the elites being mass murderers and rapists (50 million climate change-related rapes by the 2040s and perhaps even by the 2030s) and how [1] facts are facts.
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[1] Later in the week, Hallam banged on about facts being facts.
[2] Hallam has long made it clear that he thinks he’s pretty close to being the Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr, Hartley Shawcross and Gandalf of our time. Deny this and thou shalt probably be hanged – although, to be fair to Hallam, he says he doesn’t want people who disagree with him to be hanged. He says that he’s just using a sociological prediction that we will be hanged. (Or, as he puts it, ‘hung’.)
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What’s going on with James Delingpole ?
A few tweeters say they have dropped him cos he defaults to Conspiracy Theory about everything .
Today I listened to his podcast with Toby Young, and Toby was squiring as Dellers started to say crazy things
First he said the bright weather maps and Toby’s flight problems were part of a grand conspiracy to stop us from ever flying
em Toby was direct “no the flights were cockup not conspiracy”
Dellers insisted no BA are secretly in a campaign to give people problems to put them off flying
(He really said that)
Detail – Yes they were all cockups
#1 Iberian had sudden;y cancelled Toby’s Majorca flight the day before
so he flew another airline
#2 The refund of their ticket was surprisingly easy
#3 Only when they were waiting to board the return flight did they learn Iberian had wrongly cancelled that one too
#4 At UK pp control they found Toby’s child had dropped his passport on the plane.. after 20 mins it was found
Then Dellers goes into the saga of his hacked Twitter account (July 12th)
“One of my staffers said everyone is saying that there is great Russian hacker who could help
FFS Dellers doesn’t even know that as soon as you tweeted the words “account hacked”
bots send you “we know someone who will get it back” tweets
They are scammers too
So James then got scammed out of a £60 deposit by the scammer
..and only realised when the guy played tricks for more
Crazy thing #3 Dellers in the podcast says he doesn’t believe dinosaurs ever existed but dragons did
Says they want the Earth to appear older than it is
He also says Paul McCartney was replaced by an impersonator since 1966
“see the before and after photos”
Old fans later realised it was a different person
Toby made it an advertising break and changed the topic to TV
Crazy 5 : Dellers said he has been watching a BBC gameshow called The Traitors
he mistakenly thinks the BBC made it up
unaware it’s an old Russian game Mafia, also known as Werewolf that is very popular in Europe .. I’ve played it a lot
James said “It’s characteristic of the way that popular entertainment is DESIGNED to subvert our culture and make us weaker”
“Here is a series DESIGNED to promote lying, deception, promote conspiracy, to promote division, we are encouraged to root for the baddies.. it’s extraordinary how weak and gullible those on the sides of the faithful (normal villagers) are”
It’s not artificially *designed* by a TV company, it is the way the actual game traditionally is
.. it teaches critical thinking as you learn how to lie and how to detect them.
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Dellers Twitter account suddenly started blocking me 2 years ago
(After he falsely accused TVKev of cutting a caller off
when I pointed that out the Dellers account and a fellow cultist just threw ad homs at me)
What’s happened to his account has a number of stages
The account got passed to a bitcoin merchant who used it to advertise to Dellers 112K followers
#2 The account name was changed to @shibtoken_bot
I can tell that cos it shows up as blocking me
#3 Ideally Dellers would get his account back and change the name back
but someone took advantage they created a new account with the old name @JamesDelingpole So when people try to tweet Dellers this new guy gets the tweets
and although searches show people’s old tweets TO @jamesdelingpole
Old tweets FROM @jamesdelingpole don;t now show up in searches
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Dellers should as other people who got their account back from a hack
Ruth Davidson MP in two days
but @HowardCCox still hasn’t got back his 172K account @FairFuelUK after 9 months
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