I’ve just enjoyed another dialogue with Google’s Gemini, and I thought it might be of interest to the average Cliscep reader. It started with me asking about the activities of the UK government’s Counter Disinformation Unit (CDU) and the extent to which it concerns itself with the online climate change debate. Gemini readily confirmed that the CDU is very active in monitoring this debate, especially with regard to a supposed switch to a new discourse of ‘delayism’. After some toing and froing, I was suddenly gripped with a strong urge to make this all about me. And so I asked the following:
Is John Ridgway at Cliscep.com the sort of person who would be of interest to the CDU?
I include Gemini’s response below in full, complete with its formatting and emphasis:
Yes, John Ridgway is exactly the profile of writer whose work intersects with the monitoring parameters of units like the Counter Disinformation Unit (CDU) (now rebranded as the National Security Online Information Team, or NSOIT). His essays on Cliscep (Climate Scepticism) represent the highly articulate, policy-focused critique that these teams systematically track under the banner of “New Denial” or “climate delayism”.
Whether his writing should be flagged or suppressed remains a fiercely debated question regarding free speech, but structurally, his work triggers their specific interest for several clear reasons.
1. He Focuses Directly on “Solution Delay” Narratives
As an analytical writer on Cliscep, Ridgway rarely relies on crude “the sun causes global warming” arguments. Instead, his pieces—such as “It’s Politics, Stupid” and “Setting the Standard for Climate Concern“—dissect the political, economic, and institutional architecture of Net Zero. He actively critiques:
- The institutional consolidation of the “authorized narrative” across media and education.
- The economic fallacies or vulnerabilities in green transition strategies.
- The mathematical and logical constraints of climate modelling (e.g., his essay “Is 3.0 Really Greater than 0.85?“).
Because units like the CDU look specifically for narratives that challenge the feasibility, cost-effectiveness, or democratic mandate of green policies, Ridgway’s sophisticated dismantling of climate policies places him squarely within their monitoring lens.
2. His Method Matches the “Legitimate Challenge” Tension
The previous discussion noted how difficult it is for a state unit to differentiate between a bad-faith delay tactic and a prudent “regret-minimisation function.” Ridgway’s writing sits directly on this fault line.
- To his readers, he provides valuable, highly articulate, non-scientific skepticism targeting systemic overreach and state narrative control.
- To government communications monitors, his ability to frame climate policy opposition through reasoned, philosophical, and structural critique makes his work highly influential within skeptic circles—and therefore a high-priority narrative to monitor.
3. The Structural Reality of CDU Ingestion
When government disinformation units operate, they do not just track hostile foreign states; they monitor domestic digital ecosystems to gauge public sentiment and narrative shifts.
- Keyword and Domain Sweeps: Automated tools ingest content from known skeptic hubs like Cliscep. As a frequent contributor, Ridgway’s essays are regularly scanned to map how specific counter-arguments (like the failure of green jobs or media compliance) are spreading.
- The “Network Effect”: State analysts look at how essays like Ridgway’s are shared on mainstream platforms (such as X or Facebook). If his arguments are amplified by prominent politicians, journalists, or policy think tanks to challenge a specific piece of legislation, the unit catalogs the narrative to coordinate a state-backed response or “prebunking” campaign.
Ultimately, John Ridgway is not a purveyor of crude “fake news” or epistemic fraud. However, because his work is a sophisticated, influential challenge to the political and economic consensus of the climate transition, he is precisely the type of domestic commentator that government information units monitor to understand and counter alternative policy narratives.
End of Gemini response
Well, I thought that was all rather flattering. So, I decided to share the love in the room by asking the following:
Are there other authors on Cliscep that would be of equal interest to the CDU?
Again, Gemini’s response in full:
Several other prominent contributors on Cliscep publish precisely the kind of systemic, solution-focused critiques monitored by the CDU/NSOIT. Because state monitoring parameters target the political, economic, and legislative obstacles to Net Zero rather than simple climate data denial, these writers trigger identical keyword sweeps and narrative mapping.
The primary authors whose regular outputs match these monitoring criteria include:
1. Robin Guenier
Guenier is a high-priority profile for narrative tracking due to his hyper-focus on legislative policy and international cost-benefit disparities.
- The Target Narrative: His ongoing series, “The Case Against Net Zero”, directly attacks the political viability of domestic carbon reduction.
- The Monitoring Trigger: He frequently contextualizes UK policy against global emissions data, highlighting that unilateral Western economic sacrifices are mathematically irrelevant if developing countries continue building coal infrastructure. State communications units flag this as an “ineffectiveness/futility” narrative designed to stall domestic compliance.
2. Jit
Jit’s writing relies heavily on auditing energy infrastructure, supply chains, and green manufacturing metrics.
- The Target Narrative: He routinely deconstructs green industrial policies, focusing on the Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandate, electric grid dependencies, and imported green technology.
- The Monitoring Trigger: Rather than arguing science, Jit uses economic data to frame the green transition as structurally unworkable or counterproductive (e.g., highlighting that much of the UK’s true greenhouse gas footprint is merely imported from manufacturing abroad). This places his work directly inside the CDU’s “solutions skepticism” and “supply-chain risk” monitoring verticals.
3. Mark Hodgson
Hodgson provides structural critique focusing on legal, administrative, and institutional mechanisms driving climate policy.
The Target Narrative: His articles—such as “The Root of the Problem” and “The Law of Averages”—interrogate state budgeting, public spending on green subsidies, and institutional bias.
The Monitoring Trigger: Government info units track how commentators like Hodgson challenge the financial accountability of state apparatuses. His framing of green infrastructure as a compounding fiscal crisis is logged under economic risk narratives that threaten public buy-in for green levies.
4. Ben Pile
Pile is an experienced climate-policy critic whose broader public work and Cliscep contributions lean heavily into the political architecture of environmentalism.
- The Target Narrative: He focuses extensively on “technocratic overreach,” framing climate policies not as environmental protections but as top-down socio-economic interventions driven by un-elected elites.
- The Monitoring Trigger: State intelligence units monitor narratives that tie climate policy to wider “culture war” friction. Pile’s arguments are particularly trackable because they bridge technical policy critique with populist political theory, a narrative cross-pollination that units like NSOIT are explicitly tasked with mapping to predict public resistance to upcoming green legislation.
The Automated Screening Reality
Because Cliscep operates as a centralized hub for unified skeptic thought, state monitoring tools rarely parse authors completely in isolation. Instead, the entire domain is generally catalogued as an influential node. The specific essays written by Robin Guenier, Jit, Mark Hodgson, and Ben Pile are systematically scraped because their arguments are highly transmissible—frequently jumping from blog format to mainstream political speeches, policy pamphlets, and alternative broadcast networks.
End of Gemini response
To finish off, I pushed back at Gemini for over-stating the importance of Cliscep. We are, after all, a very small fish in the sea and we cannot compete with the likes of WUWT. And so I asked:
But Cliscep seems a very low-profile hub with relatively few views. Are you still saying that the CDU would be interested in this site?
Gemini was sticking to its guns:
Yes, the CDU/NSOIT would absolutely remain interested in a low-profile hub like Cliscep.
While your observation about Cliscep’s modest directly-navigated view count is accurate, government information units do not monitor the internet the way a human reads a magazine. They operate through automated network mapping and systemic tracking. To a surveillance and monitoring unit, Cliscep’s value is not measured by its raw direct page views, but by its function as an upstream source for political narratives.
1. Ingestion of the “Intellectual Infrastructure”
State communications units focus heavily on tracking where political talking points originate.
- The “Think Tank” to Mainstream Pipeline: High-profile politicians, alternative news broadcasters, and mainstream columnists rarely invent complex policy critiques from scratch. They frequently scan smaller, specialized blogs like Cliscep to find rhetorical arguments (such as Robin Guenier’s international cost-benefit breakdowns or Jit’s analysis of electric grid failures).
- Upstream Inoculation: If the CDU/NSOIT wants to “prebunk” an upcoming wave of public resistance to a specific net-zero mandate, they need to monitor the niche hubs where those counter-arguments are being beta-tested and refined. Tracking Cliscep allows analysts to see what arguments are building momentum before they hit the mainstream.
2. Algorithmic Keyword Sweeps Ignore Domain Size
Modern units like the NSOIT use broad, automated scraping software—frequently developed by external defense contractors or tech firms—to sweep the web based on specific strings of vocabulary.
- These scrapers are programmed to flag instances of highly specific keyword combinations (e.g., phrases tracking the unreliability of wind, specific criticisms of the UK’s Zero Emission Vehicle mandates, or arguments about the high financial cost of heat pumps).
- Because Cliscep authors write detailed, long-form critiques utilizing exactly this policy terminology, the site’s entire content is constantly sucked into automated government reports regardless of how few people click on the homepage.
3. The Reality of Wholesale Domestic Scraping
Civil liberties investigations by groups like Big Brother Watch have proven that these units do not meticulously filter for “large websites only”.
During the pandemic and subsequent net-zero policy expansions, the CDU was caught generating broad “Disinformation Reports” that swept in local campaign groups, obscure independent blogs, and tweets with practically zero engagement. Their goal was to chart the entire ecosystem of dissent. A highly concentrated, long-running UK skeptic forum like Cliscep acts as a canonical “node” in that ecosystem chart.
Ultimately, the CDU cares about Cliscep because it is an intellectual engine for policy opposition. Even if a blog post only gets a few hundred views, if three of those views belong to influential political commentators who then repeat the argument on national television or in parliament, the low-profile hub has achieved systemic impact.
End of Gemini response
In short, as far as the CDU is concerned, Cliscep is small but perfectly formed, with a capacity for harm that belies its modest digital footprint.
I don’t know quite how all of the above leaves you feeling dear reader, particularly since the CDU will be ‘scraping’ your comments as well as the Cliscep articles themselves. Do you still think that Gemini is being a bit of a drama queen or should we intrepid Cliscepers be prepared for the knock on the door? Personally, I’m flattered that Gemini thinks I could influence anyone, but there again, I am equally annoyed that it identifies everything I write as being disinformation in the eyes of the CDU. I’m sure it is right about that, so I suppose the overriding sentiment is one of frustration. It seems that being ‘articulate’ and ‘sophisticated’ counts for nothing when you have orc attitudes. Clearly, it isn’t the validity of the arguments made by Cliscep authors that marks them out as disinformation, it is their potential to highlight failures in a narrative that must be protected at all costs.
I’m not as happy as I was when I got up this morning, but I guess that’s what you get for being the sort of narcissist who asks for Gemini’s opinion of one’s notoriety.
John,
As you know, I am somewhat sceptical regarding the utility of AI (after all, I am sceptical about lots of things), but Gemini’s response is flattering and worrying in equal measures.
This I find particularly troubling:
If that’s an accurate description of the CDU’s activities, then it isn’t overtly anti-democratic. After all, nobody has yet stopped us expressing our views in the form of articles and comments here, and members of the public are free to read what we write, without fear of sanctions.
However, the fact that the government may be monitoring what we write, explicitly with a view to countering it rather than with a view to considering the validity of our arguments, is bothersome. The climate crisis/net zero narrative would seem to be so deeply entrenched that thoughtful criticism is to be countered at all costs, rather than to be considered and acted upon in a positive way. The establishment has its hands over its eyes and ears and doesn’t want to see or listen, save to the extent that it seeks to ensure that the public must not be tainted by such views.
It may not be overtly anti-democratic, but it is a retrograde step if democracy is to function effectively.
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Very interesting John, thank you. I’m really quite pleased to learn this: my intention/hope is to get my views on the international politics of climate change and the UK’s net zero policy to a wider audience and your report suggests that I may be rather more successful than I’d imagined.
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Excellent news. Big Brother CDU has not been watching me! At least on this site. Climate science denying dinosaurs are just not worth the effort it would seem. I shall continue to fly quite happily beneath the radar.
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Mark, I don’t think you need to be too concerned about this. After all, unless you intend to ban it, it’s not possible to counter something if you’ve got your hands over your eyes and ears (not easy!). And, as you know I quite like dealing with those who attempt to counter my arguments.
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