A couple of days ago, Evan Davis, host of BBC Radio 4’s PM programme interviewed Dr. Jan Rosenow about the recent Government announcement that the planned trial of hydrogen heating in homes at Redcar in Cleveland has been cancelled. I transcribe the interview before, and follow it up with a few thoughts.
The interview
Evan Davis (ED): Now, the Government has abandoned its plan for a hydrogen village in Redcar. It was a section of the town that had been ear-marked to have the ordinary gas supply turned off, to be replaced with a hydrogen supply. And, as this was to be an experiment, everybody would get free, new, hydrogen appliances to replace the old natural gas ones, to test the idea of replacing natural gas with hydrogen. In fact, I even went to visit the hydrogen village at the end of August [cut to August interviews]:
ED: Hello, sorry to disturb you. We’re actually from the BBC, believe it or not. We are looking at this hydrogen village plan.
Female resident: I have been seeing bits and pieces on Facebook, and the opinion I’m getting is that the community are not looking forward to it.
ED: Gents, can we come and talk to you?
Male resident: Depends what about.
ED: So look. You’re in the hydrogen village.
Male resident: I am.
ED: Is that good news, bad news? Are you, what?
Male resident: To me, I’m indifferent. We’re not going to stop it, are we? No matter how many people protest about it, it’s going to happen.
ED: They’re going to give you two options. One is you can have a new boiler – hydrogen.
Male resident: Yeah.
ED: Or an electric alternative. What would you take if they, when they come and offer you that?
Male resident: I’ve tapped me head. Probably the hydrogen, because electricity’s a fortune.
[Back in the studio]
ED: Well, that was…those were comments in Redcar when I went there in August. But the plan has been scrapped. It wasn’t the only hydrogen village proposed – there was another one near Ellesmere Port. That had already been scrapped. There is one, though, in Fife that is proceeding. But the end of the Redcar trial is being seen as perhaps a fatal blow to the idea of using hydrogen to heat homes in this country as we progress to a fossil, erm, to net zero, and transition out of fossil fuels. Jan Rosenow is director of the Regulatory Assistance Project. It’s an energy NGO, and sits on the board of the Energy Institute. Jan, tell us what’s been going on here, and why do you think they have abandoned this particular trial?
Jan Rosenow (JR): I think the UK government has made the right decision, and is setting a clear example globally by backing down from hydrogen for home heating. We’ve seen ministers in recent months say again and again that hydrogen won’t play a major role for home heating, and this cancellation in my view confirms the Government’s increased scepticism that we’re seeing around putting hydrogen in people’s homes. So I think it’s a hugely significant decision and I believe is an indication of what’s to come next year.
ED: Right. And the basic issue they said – I mean it might have been just everyone was saying “I don’t really want hydrogen coming into my home” – because it was a voluntary sign-up. You were certainly going to have the gas turned off, but you had to sign up the hydrogen or you could take electricity. They said the problem is getting green hydrogen, a good supply of hydrogen from renewable electricity, and I guess that is just the problem of heating homes with hydrogen: it just takes a lot of hydrogen, which takes a lot of electricity.
JR: Indeed, and the science is very clear on this. Actually, just today I published a new meta-review of 54 independent studies. And the result from studies are [sic] very clear indeed. They agree that hydrogen is a lot less efficient. It needs a lot more electricity to make green hydrogen compared to using a heat pump, or district heating. It will cost consumers more than the alternatives, and therefore it’s gonna be a lot harder to persuade people to do it. And the supply problems we have with hydrogen are quite stark. Currently 99%+ of global hydrogen production – that is also the case in the UK – are from fossil fuels with no carbon abatement. So we have minuscule amounts of green hydrogen available right now, and they are much needed in other sectors that currently use very dirty and carbon-intensive hydrogen.
ED: What is going on in Fife, though? Because there is – there were three planned, two have gone – what’s happening in Fife? They do seem to be proceeding with one pilot there.
JR: Yeah, we still have the Fife trial going ahead. It remains to be seen to what extent that will succeed. I think a lot depends on the decision that the Government has said it would make in 2026 – although it has indicated that it could happen earlier – about the future of the gas grid more generally, and whether hydrogen will be a scaleable option for the UK to decarbonise home heating. But it’s very uncertain whether that’s going to happen after today’s cancellation of the Redcar trial.
ED: All right. Jan Rosenow, thanks for that, from the Regulatory Assistance Project.
A few thoughts
Alert readers may remember that in A Heated Debate I criticised a Guardian article seeking to suggest that heat pumps are more than twice as efficient as fossil fuels at low temperatures, out-performing oil and gas heating systems even at temperatures as low as -30C. Also that the UK is falling behind with regard to the heat pump roll-out because people have been scared by false information regarding their efficacy at low temperatures. That Guardian article was largely based on a study co-authored by (inter alia) Dr. Rosenow. Two of the other three co-authors also work at the Regulatory Assistance Project. Dr. Rosenow has also written a guest post for CarbonBrief with the title: “How heat pumps became a Nordic success story”.
And there’s this: “Is heating homes with hydrogen all but a pipe dream? An evidence review”, also written by Dr Rosenow (as an aside, in it he says “More than 95% of global hydrogen production is currently based on fossil gas and coal with no carbon abatement” whereas he claimed 99%+ for that figure in his PM interview).
As it happens, I share Dr Rosenow’s doubts about heating homes with hydrogen (though I don’t share his enthusiasm for heat pumps). My point is that he is a heat pump advocate and a critic of heating homes with hydrogen. That is well-known, and I’m sure that the BBC editors are aware of it. I am concerned, then, that Evan Davis simply introduced him thus: “Jan Rosenow is director of the Regulatory Assistance Project. It’s an energy NGO, and sits on the board of the Energy Institute.” I feel this potentially suggested to the programme’s listeners a neutrality that doesn’t exist. Would it have been too much to have introduced him as “a long-standing critic of heating homes with hydrogen and a heat pump enthusiast”? That would have had the benefit of being factually accurate.
Secondly, although the people of Redcar are no doubt pleased that they are no longer to be used as guinea pigs, it’s worth noting the authoritarian nature of the net zero project. It was made clear during the interview that had the trial gone ahead, they would simply have been forced to wave goodbye to natural gas central heating. The sole choice they would have been allowed to make would have been between heat pumps and hydrogen boilers. Given that most of us suspect that neither are as cheap nor as practicable as natural gas heating, what sort of “choice” is that? So much for democracy.
As was said in the interview, the reason the trial has been scrapped is a shortage of “green” hydrogen. That was certainly the reason given in the BBC website article that first mentioned the cancellation:
Northern Gas Networks (NGN), which would have run the Redcar trial, said it was “disappointed”.
The company said the trial was not going ahead because the expected green hydrogen facilities would not now be available.
“We’re disappointed that we won’t be able to take forward our plan to heat homes and businesses in Redcar with low carbon hydrogen,” a spokesperson said.
“Without adequate local hydrogen production, it is no longer possible to deliver the project.”
And that begs the question why the Fife hydrogen trial is still to go ahead (assuming that to be the case). Is this down to perversity on the part of the SNP/Green coalition Government north of the border (it certainly wouldn’t be the first time), or do they actually have some (no doubt expensive and probably futile) plans to create “green” hydrogen locally?
All this while we await the publication of the UK Government’s Hydrogen Roadmap, which is supposed to set out how the UK can build a network of hydrogen production factories, and convert homes, businesses, and transport networks to the “green” fuel. It’s all beginning to look ever more disjointed, but there seems to be no end to the unwarranted optimism and ongoing waste of taxpayer funds.
What is it about Redcar and these experiments? As I recall, the government had earmarked Redcar to be the guinea pigs for Operation Pigshit — sorry, Operation Moonshot — before they cancelled at the 11th hour and chose Liverpool instead. Are the people of Redcar deemed more expendable than others, or perhaps more helpless to refuse? Can they be more readily bought with trinkets that man from silver bird brings?
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h/t to Douglas Brodie. The Scottish government thinks it’s going to create so much green hydrogen, it will be able to export it to Germany!
https://www.scottishpower.com/news/pages/scottish_german_collaboration_could_unlock_20_billion_green_hydrogen_market_in_the_eu.aspx
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Jaime,
Thanks for the link. It may be that we sceptics will all be proved hopelessly wrong some day; however, as things stand, there seems to be increasing evidence that those in charge are hopelessly deluded and/or stark staring mad.
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Hello
I have just found the Carbon Brief article mentioned and when I read it geuss what type of heat pump is popular in the Nordic counties? Surprise its AIR to AIR, not air to WATER! so for the UK gov is as I have allways surmized being economical with the truth!
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The impression I got from the transcript was that ED’s principal agenda was to use it as an opportunity for BBC to come over for once as supportive of a government action in a matter vaguely to do with the environment. That’s why he was not interested in pressing harder for detailed justification of the Redcar decision nor on coming clean regarding Rosenow’s bona fides.
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Well, it looks as though the hydrogen industry is determined to keep plugging itself in the hope of making money. Details of yet another WEET conference (“Next steps for the hydrogen industry in the UK”) have just landed in my emails in-box.
From this I learn that the UK has a Hydrogen Department within DENZ; a UK Hydrogen Champion who is also Co-Chair of the Hydrogen Advisory Council (Jane Toogood, if you’re interested); and an outfit called Hydrogen UK (Chief Executive, Clare Jackson).
The conference will discuss, inter alia:
Policy: supporting commercialisation – next steps for building the hydrogen market following the allocation of funds to hydrogen projects in strands 1 and 2 of the Net Zero Hydrogen Fund;
Growing the hydrogen economy: opportunities and challenges for enabling hydrogen uptake – cost and logistics – safety and investment priorities;
Competitiveness: assessing the viability of hydrogen as a renewable alternative in the mix of options across key sectors;
Supply issues: logistics and practicalities – strategies for tackling barriers to sourcing the critical minerals and other raw materials necessary to grow the UK hydrogen economy;
Business models: assessing approaches – plans for addressing challenges around the sliding scale mechanism;
Infrastructure: next steps for planning, designing and implementing solutions for hydrogen transport and storage, including refuelling stations and pipelines;
Regulation: promoting affordability – reducing supply chain costs and end user economic burden in the transition to green hydrogen;
Strategic outlook: planning for 2030 production targets and beyond – priorities for development and implementation in the near- and longer-term for government and industry.
They won’t give up easily. Money, money, money! Futility, futility, futility.
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“Energy bosses suppressed hydrogen explosion risk report ahead of Fife trial
SGN carried out tests but did not share the full report in case it was “misinterpreted”.”
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/fife/4847876/fife-hydrogen-trial-risks/
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https://www.no2nuclearpower.org.uk/news/hydrogen-25-2-25/
A hydrogen boiler trial in Fife, which is the only ongoing test known of its kind, has yet to receive safety approvals months after the associated network was installed. The H100 trial in Levenmouth is the only hydrogen boiler residential trial to be progressing after two similar UK trials were cancelled over safety concerns, following a report that revealed hydrogen boilers are at far greater risk of fire than regular gas boilers. Two hydrogen boiler trials, in Ellesmere Port in Whitby and Redcar in Teesside, were quashed in 2023 over fears of safety among residents, while three known accidents involving blasts in the unproven market for the low-carbon gas have taken place in recent years. Tom Baxter, a lecturer in the department of engineering at the University of Aberdeen, filed a freedom of information request to the Information Commissioner’s office to know what safety approvals the Fife H100 trial had complied with at the start of February. The request was submitted after gas distribution business SGN, the company behind the trials, was forced by the commissioner’s office in December 2023 to release findings from a controlled explosions experiment that compared hydrogen and gas boiler safety.
The safety trial is apparently still not complete. Unfortunately the next link is to a paywalled article, but enough is visible to get the gist:
https://www.energyvoice.com/renewables-energy-transition/hydrogen/577227/h100-hydrogen-boiler-trial-fife-safety-review/
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